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Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague
Johan Cruyff has NOT been contacted by LFC. There has been NO conversations with LFC. If he was asked, I think he would show interest though
Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague
Txiki Beguiristain has NOT been approached by Liverpool either. But I'm sure other English clubs are considering him to become their DoF
Johan Cruyff has NOT been contacted by LFC. There has been NO conversations with LFC. If he was asked, I think he would show interest though
Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague
Txiki Beguiristain has NOT been approached by Liverpool either. But I'm sure other English clubs are considering him to become their DoF
It absolutely baffles me how someone can look at the way we've played for the last few seasons and decide that all we need is a finisher and a central midfielder.
We haven't had a decent creative wide player since McManaman fucked off to RM and we have enough central midfielders to practically field a entire team of them.
We haven't had a decent creative wide player since McManaman fucked off to RM and we have enough central midfielders to practically field a entire team of them.
Exactly. Now I don't know where you think the team needs to be strengthened but I still believe we need at least another wing forward like Suarez and someone who can play on the wing or behind the striker, creative but versatile players.
Leave the central midfield to Shelvey, Gerrard, Lucas, Spearing, Henderson etc.
Basically we need to an upgrade on Maxi, Kuyt and Downing.
I'm not a fan of Carroll, so I'm ambivalent to him. I don't think he'll ever suit the style of play needed for a top team to win leagues, etc he doesn't have the technical ability or playing intelligence.
Neither does the likes of Downing or Henderson.
We know that's why the likes of Maxi can integrate well with players such as Suarez, Torres, Ming, Gerrard etc - they all are intelligent & technically gifted players. If our style of play is designed around getting quick, high balls in to the box from wide areas aimed at Andy Carroll's head then we'd probably be as well selling Suarez and buying a second target man and pretending we're Blackburn in the days of sutton & shearer.
The problem with Bellamy, Kuyt, Gerrard & Maxi is that although they fit in to the style of play that we want and will bring rewards - they're all the wrong side of 30 and better as impact players.
What we need is the Torres of 3 years ago or a Tevez, with Suarez operating in a free roll behind him and 2 attacking players in the Mata/Hazard/Nasri/Silva mode exploiting wide areas and stretching teams.
There's fuck all point of splashing out on a "finisher" if we're relying on a bunch if 30+ yr olds in decline, a 17 year old who's main claim to fame so far is knocking up 2 birds and Stewart "fucking" Downing. Apart from the latter, the others have a roll to play, but we need fresh meat.
The problem is we're in the same old position as ever - we can't afford the players we need - so we'll go out and buy second tier players who will end up being despressingly average and we'll be no further point forward and the cycle will begin again.
Neither does the likes of Downing or Henderson.
We know that's why the likes of Maxi can integrate well with players such as Suarez, Torres, Ming, Gerrard etc - they all are intelligent & technically gifted players. If our style of play is designed around getting quick, high balls in to the box from wide areas aimed at Andy Carroll's head then we'd probably be as well selling Suarez and buying a second target man and pretending we're Blackburn in the days of sutton & shearer.
The problem with Bellamy, Kuyt, Gerrard & Maxi is that although they fit in to the style of play that we want and will bring rewards - they're all the wrong side of 30 and better as impact players.
What we need is the Torres of 3 years ago or a Tevez, with Suarez operating in a free roll behind him and 2 attacking players in the Mata/Hazard/Nasri/Silva mode exploiting wide areas and stretching teams.
There's fuck all point of splashing out on a "finisher" if we're relying on a bunch if 30+ yr olds in decline, a 17 year old who's main claim to fame so far is knocking up 2 birds and Stewart "fucking" Downing. Apart from the latter, the others have a roll to play, but we need fresh meat.
The problem is we're in the same old position as ever - we can't afford the players we need - so we'll go out and buy second tier players who will end up being despressingly average and we'll be no further point forward and the cycle will begin again.
I thought the idea was that we buy young players in the hope that they become top tier players.
It seems to be going swimmingly so far.
Enrique?
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who asked him to buy those players ?
There seems to be a glitch in the matrix.
as with bale and assou-ekotto (yes, I did google the spelling) you will only see true results years after he has left. carroll and henderson are his expensive signings but both are still very young.
I think that's just a bit too exaggerated.
Carroll was bought when everyone knew we had £50m in our pocket and we needed to buy with hours to go. People can argue the toss but the situation was different to having weeks of a transfer window to explore all options. We should have waited, in hindsight, but the pressure was on for us to buy and the selling club held all the cards. We probably could have gotten away with it without Carroll, but we didn't know that at the time and say what you like but the fans wouldn't have taken selling Torres and buying no one.
Bellamy the only one we didn't get stung on? Really? What about Adam and Enrique? Adam will probably go in the Summer but at the time he was worth the fee based on last seasons form and it was less than the £10m that was being quoted in January. Enrique, despite a recent slump, has been a good, cost effective buy.
The only ones where we can hold our hands up and say that we overpaid when we had time to negotiate and explore all avenues were the Henderson and Downing transfers. I'm not overly convinced by Henderson but I am with the group of posters that think he's got 'something' and he's 21 so has time on his side to repay the fee.
I know that. The people moaning that we bought Carroll and overpaid would have moaned if we'd bought no one. It was also a case of us trying not to look like a selling club and reinvesting the money straight away in someone else. We got it wrong but it's different to having a whole transfer window to sound out players and then fuck it up anyway.
I totally agree with mark, when we sold torres it's the lowest I've felt as a fan. we were selling our biggest start to a rival and the reason he was going was because he felt he couldn't win honours with us. that's a kick in the fucking balls especially when being on the brink of going into administration. the carroll signing was a massive pick me up, an expensive one but a pick me up none the less. in hindsight it would have been to feel like shit for 6 months and have 35m to spend in the summer.
I'm sure the owners were keen to prove they were prepared to reinvest money as trust was thin on the ground due to the previous owners
I think that's a pretty cynical viewpoint Keni. Of course it matters. Why is everyone so up in arms about how the club handled the Suarez fiasco, or other incidents. Why are people sniping at Kenny for his interviews? Oh yeah, the club shouldn't give a shit about fan reaction.
"The club shouldn't give a shit about that".
Why take it to extremes? Did I?
I'm simply asking that when it comes to investing 35M and strategising for the future at a pivotal moment in the clubs history, should the fans very temporary feelings be seriously taken into account?
Perhaps the statement of intent was aimed more at the footballing community rather than the common fan and that might carry more weight. Appeasing the fans I'm far less convinced that was a priority at the time.
We may have all spent 6 months bitching and moaning on phone ins and message boards and then could've seen a POW signing in the summer and been happy. Would those 6 months of "feeling low" then really have affected the owners or the club in any way? I'm not convinced.
Why take it to extremes? Did I?
I'm simply asking that when it comes to investing 35M and strategising for the future at a pivotal moment in the clubs history, should the fans very temporary feelings be seriously taken into account?
Perhaps the statement of intent was aimed more at the footballing community rather than the common fan and that might carry more weight. Appeasing the fans I'm far less convinced that was a priority at the time.
We may have all spent 6 months bitching and moaning on phone ins and message boards and then could've seen a POW signing in the summer and been happy. Would those 6 months of "feeling low" then really have affected the owners or the club in any way? I'm not convinced.
Of course they should ignore the fans when it comes to investing large amounts of money, they should ensure the money is invested with their homework done and not on a whim, but it does play a part and always has, it's the nature of the game and it's connection with the supporters.
People will probably point to Newcastle this season, but that's a relatively one off case.
People will probably point to Newcastle this season, but that's a relatively one off case.
what the fuck is that supposed to mean? if I had 35m would I have spent it on carroll regardless of how I felt? I wont be a hyprocrite and say I didn't want that money spent rather than it burning a hole in our pocket but how many players in italy? spain? germany? there are not many players that 35m wouldn't have bought. the impulse to spend the money was right but the player they identified was 'maybe' wrong (we have no idea how good carroll will become).
there is another thing we may be missing without information behind the scenes, it's entirely possible that carroll was identified years ago as a key component of our long term plan and thus we were prepared to pay any price to secure it, after all fergie paid 30m for rooney who at the time was largely unproven but with vast potential.
I'm the first to say fans should be ignored and I've said it in the past (look at newcastle as an example) but being fair to the americans they had to sweep away the bad impressions left by the previous owners, I think had they have been in the door longer than 5 minutes then things may possibly have been different. we were 'this' close to brink and that can't and shouldn't be underestimated.
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