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According to the Athletic. 4 bidders from Dubai have submitted proposals.

However FSG want details behind their wealth.

No details = No sale

They go on to state that new owners are likely to be American over Middle East.
 
Me too.

But it'll never happen. The only thing he could ever dream to buy is the bin outside the training ground where Dunk used to stand on to get his Insider news. Salah could probably buy him out too.
 
After seeing the mediocre performances of Boston Celtics..

No thanks.

The Celtics got to the final last year, mate, and are widely tipped to be there or thereabouts for the next several years, with an uber-talented young squad.

That said, I still don't want this bollox near our club.
 
Watching my kid play football with four and five year olds is the pinnacle of football.

We have a want away Italian forward who pouts when he doesn't get to play in his position and leaves the pitch at times entirely, until a concerted effort gets him to get back on again and be useful.

We have a columbian forward who is better than everyone, but can only run in the direction that he is facing, in a straight line. This is great when heading toward goal, but not so much if he's running back toward ours.

Last week there was a counter and the green team had one player back to defend, but he was looking at leaves on the ground. The other team blows by him and scores and everyone is celebrating and he holds a stunning red maple leaf up and says "look mommy!" amidst the celebrations.

I had to remind this poor little girl that she could use her hands, because she's the keeper, then she makes a save and leaves the ball just sitting on the line. Time stands still as the genetic freak 5 year old who is a foot taller than everyone else thinks they might just lord of the flies two foot the thing over the line, but then one of the "defenders" falls over and knocks it in anyway.

And my kid? Thoroughly mediocre. Yells at kids to spread out a little, and will actually defend a little. Ok, he's lucas. Who fucking cares.

Love it, mate.

This day six years ago, my then 10 year old Alex first played a blinder at CB (as the smallest player of the pitch) for the full regulation time and extra time and then stepped up to take that last, decisive peno in the shootout to win the title for her U-11 team.

I was far, far more scared as she approached the ball on that peno than I was for all of the Istanbul penos combined! She'd scuffed a few kickouts and free kicks during the match and I could tell she was very nervous... But, she made a beautiful contact and planted it high into the net, sort-of-top-corner-ish. She was a hero, and she had an ability to read the game already and was very calm in possesion - She had a great future in front of her..

And, that peno was the last time she ever kicked a ball. That summer, she discovered gymnastics and fell helplessly in love with it, and never went back to footie.

Andie, two years older, played to seasons, was a bit rubbish, and then moved on to volleyball, which she fell in love with instantly, and became pretty good... She played right up until graduating highschool.

So, I'm with you... Watching the snappers play their matches is far, far more important that watching the Reds - Just mine played feckin' volleyball and gymnastics and cheerleading.
 
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Interesting that when Klopp was quizzed about this last night his response was that as far as he knew the club was only looking for investors, not a sale like Chelsea.
 
Interesting that when Klopp was quizzed about this last night his response was that as far as he knew the club was only looking for investors, not a sale like Chelsea.

Not sure if the original article has been posted already, but here's a reminder:

Fenway Sports Group is trying to gauge whether it is better to attract new investors in its Liverpool Football Club or simply sell it, according to a source with direct knowledge of the situation.
The team has engaged banking powers Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs to explore what the appetite is for a partial or controlling share of the historic soccer club in the global marketplace. Sports franchises, particularly European soccer teams, have become a favorite investment vehicle for investors backed by deep-pocketed private and public consortia.
The club’s middling performance this season is not behind this exploration, said the source, without elaborating on what factors are behind the timing.

Fenway Sports Group issued a statement that did not directly address a sale.
“There have been a number of recent changes of ownership and rumors of changes in ownership at EPL clubs and inevitably we are asked regularly about Fenway Sports Group’s ownership in Liverpool,” the statement said.
“FSG has frequently received expressions of interest from third parties seeking to become shareholders in Liverpool. FSG has said before that under the right terms and conditions we would consider new shareholders if it was in the best interests of Liverpool as a club.
“FSG remains fully committed to the success of Liverpool, both on and off the pitch.”

Since FSG purchased the club in 2010 for $493 million, Liverpool’s value has swelled to $4.45 billion, according to Forbes estimates this fall, placing it in 22nd place among all sports franchises in the world. That’s higher than the value of the Red Sox (No. 30 at $3.9 billion).
Liverpool is ranked as the fourth-most valuable soccer franchise, trailing Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Manchester United.
FSG also owns the Red Sox. The ownership group, led by John Henry and Tom Werner, bought the franchise and Fenway Park for $700 million in 2002.
Henry also owns the Boston Globe.
Foreign ownership of Premier League teams is increasing, led by US groups such as FSG, Kroenke Sports and Entertainment (Arsenal), a Todd Boehly-led consortium (Chelsea), and the Glazer family (Manchester United), as well as oil-rich groups from the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (Newcastle United), which is also behind LIV Golf, and a holding company fronted by United Arab Emirates deputy prime minister and businessman Sheikh Mansour (Manchester City).
All five of those teams are ahead of Liverpool in the Premier League standings.

The development comes in the midst of an inconsistent and underwhelming season for Liverpool, which has managed to lose to the lowest-standing Premier League team, Nottingham Forest, yet has beaten defending champion Manchester City and, on Sunday, Tottenham Hotspur.
Liverpool’s 5-4-4 record heading into this weekend’s final game before the World Cup break places it in eighth in the Premier League, outside of the top-four finish it would need to be included in next year’s Champions League competition.
With 19 points, Liverpool is 7 points behind fourth-place Tottenham.
Participation in the Champions League means a significant injection of revenue, just one reason why Liverpool was initially behind last April’s Super League concept, which would guarantee its participation on an annual basis.
The fan backlash to that failed gambit was severe and swift, prompting Henry to issue a public apology.
The club is facing growing pressure from fans and media to make a significant upgrade during the upcoming January transfer window.
Liverpool lost in the Champions League final in May.
 
Yup - Aussie rules. They play on GAA (*) pitches with cones to round off the corners


(*) apparently the "no foreign sports" rule is only selectively applied 🙂
Ha ha I remember back in the mid 80s(was around 15) when I was play gaa and the foreign football, had a game clash and the gaa team just assumed I'd play their match, said I wanted to play the Cup semi and they were like if you play that you won't play for us again... Never played gaa again even though they came crawling a few times for me to come back...
 
That bag of guts Alan "Two Dinners" Brazil was saying on TalkSh!te earlier that he was on holiday in Barbados last week and a rumour was going round that we'd be in for both Bellingham and Declan Rice in the summer. Methinks some lucky Bajan just won a bet that he could get the fat lardbucket to say it live on radio.
 
That bag of guts Alan "Two Dinners" Brazil was saying on TalkSh!te earlier that he was on holiday in Barbados last week and a rumour was going round that we'd be in for both Bellingham and Declan Rice in the summer. Methinks some lucky Bajan just won a bet that he could get the fat lardbucket to say it live on radio.

I will love it! (said in a Kevin Keegan 1996 voice).. If it happens.
 
That bag of guts Alan "Two Dinners" Brazil was saying on TalkSh!te earlier that he was on holiday in Barbados last week and a rumour was going round that we'd be in for both Bellingham and Declan Rice in the summer. Methinks some lucky Bajan just won a bet that he could get the fat lardbucket to say it live on radio.
Well in this case I really really hope that fat lardbucket is right for once in his life!
 
It kinda feels like FSG are trying to have their cake and eat it with this minor investor strategy.

They've been pursuing this strategy for a number of years now, haven't they? As far as I'm aware it's not yielded any significant results. Am I wrong?

Elite football clubs are vanity projects now, not sound business ventures.
 
It kinda feels like FSG are trying to have their cake and eat it with this minor investor strategy.

They've been pursuing this strategy for a number of years now, haven't they? As far as I'm aware it's not yielded any significant results. Am I wrong?

Elite football clubs are vanity projects now, not sound business ventures.
Are you saying that Billionaires, Movie Stars and WWF wrestlers are not vain?
 
It kinda feels like FSG are trying to have their cake and eat it with this minor investor strategy.

They've been pursuing this strategy for a number of years now, haven't they? As far as I'm aware it's not yielded any significant results. Am I wrong?

Elite football clubs are vanity projects now, not sound business ventures.

Red Bird took 10 percent of the club for north of £550M, which is right at the top end of any valuation and approaching double what they paid for us. At that rate they might be able to engineer a situation of pocketing ~£2.5 billion in total and still be a majority shareholder.
 
They took a 10% stake in FSG and not LFC. FSG were hard up for cash, Redbird got a really good deal, as FSG are now worth $12bn-$15b, my own rough estimate.
So if they sold LFC for $5bn, Redbird would be entitled to 10% of that . So gross, they'd get $500m, almost what they put into FSG, and they still would have a 10% stake in a company worth $7bn - $10bn
 
Ha ha I remember back in the mid 80s(was around 15) when I was play gaa and the foreign football, had a game clash and the gaa team just assumed I'd play their match, said I wanted to play the Cup semi and they were like if you play that you won't play for us again... Never played gaa again even though they came crawling a few times for me to come back...
My boy once had the choice of turning out for the GAA team in a county semi final or go to midweek training for the football (soccer sic) team. He chose training
 
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NEW: Bain Capital co-chairman Stephen Pagliuca is a serious contender to buy Liverpool FC, due to his already close relationship with FSG. #lfc [the athletic]

Pagliuca's company Bain Capital has assets that are £112bn greater than those of Manchester City owner Sheikh Mansour. Pagliuca also owns a 55% stake in Italian club Atalanta and is the co-owner of NBA franchise the Boston Celtics, as per @TheAthleticFC
 
That bag of guts Alan "Two Dinners" Brazil was saying on TalkSh!te earlier that he was on holiday in Barbados last week and a rumour was going round that we'd be in for both Bellingham and Declan Rice in the summer. Methinks some lucky Bajan just won a bet that he could get the fat lardbucket to say it live on radio.
Fucking 'Yoga Matt'!!!!! The loose lipped whopper! .......😉

P.S - - To all - I've heard zip from him but will report if I do get anything other than his usual recipe 'for the best granola??.... He's sound but also a cunt because he owes me a purple nasty for a cab..... I'll be clocking him soon...

...... I've a vague suspicion - by the way that he might have signed up to here. That would be funny...... I doubt he'd post much... Needs to slim his fingers down to type properly for one thing.... 😉 😗 XX
 
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NEW: Bain Capital co-chairman Stephen Pagliuca is a serious contender to buy Liverpool FC, due to his already close relationship with FSG. #lfc [the athletic]

Pagliuca's company Bain Capital has assets that are £112bn greater than those of Manchester City owner Sheikh Mansour. Pagliuca also owns a 55% stake in Italian club Atalanta and is the co-owner of NBA franchise the Boston Celtics, as per @TheAthleticFC
Assets under management is not the same as a family that owns an oil rich state.
 
My boy once had the choice of turning out for the GAA team in a county semi final or go to midweek training for the football (soccer sic) team. He chose training
Exactly his choice
When it was put to me they just took it as a given I'd pick GAA, I was was playing in goal for the wexford u16s County team at the time as well. Was basically speechless when I said nope... Even tried getting team members to convince me...
 
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