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I know he's dead, as I said above his son was a huge Liverpool fan, I don't know if he is now, but I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if they were part of some consortium.
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The Duke of Westminster: a "proud northerner" with a real affection for Liverpool
More than £1bn was pumped into building almost 200 new shops, including John Lewis and Debenhams


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By
Bill GleesonEcho Reporter


The late Duke of Westminster personally led the way in what became the biggest single regeneration project in the history of Merseyside.
More than £1bn was pumped into building almost 200 new shops, including John Lewis and Debenhams stores. Around half of the investment cash came from the Duke, whose full name was Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor. He died unexpectedly yesterday, aged 64.
Liverpool One opened in 2008 during the city’s year as European Capital of Culture.
It was a big commercial risk. Nobody had invested in Liverpool city centre’s retail estate for decades and the city had fallen far behind rivals like Manchester, The Trafford Centre, Leeds and Birmingham.
The land Liverpool One was built on had been economically idle or under-used for many decades, ever since the Luftwaffe reduced much of it to rubble.
The Duke’s Grosvenor Estate property firm remained committed to the scheme even after its original investment partner, Henderson, pulled out, saying it was no longer interested in property development.

When others might have been tempted to withdraw, the Duke said he would underwrite the whole project in the event that replacement investment partners could not be found. His backing meant the massive construction project could stay on track.

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Unrecognisable: Paradise Street in Liverpool city centre before Liverpool One was built
Liverpool One was first conceived around the turn of the Millennium, right in the midst of the biggest economic boom in British history. Shop sales were booming and the major retail chains wanted bigger premises than were available in Liverpool city centre.

However, the boom conditions didn’t last and the completion of the construction of Liverpool One coincided almost exactly with the onset of the financial crisis and subsequent economic recession.
Tenants proved hard to find and Grosvenor was forced to offer retailers big discounts on rents, including three-year rent-free periods. It knocked tens of millions of pounds off the value of Liverpool One.

Notwithstanding its financial woes, the shopping centre proved a popular hit with shoppers, who have continued to turn up in their millions in the years since it opened.
Retired Grosvenor director Rod Holmes oversaw the construction of Liverpool One and worked closely with the Duke on the project. Mr Holmes told the ECHO that the Duke saw himself as a: “proud Northerner. He had real affection and understanding for Liverpool.”

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Grosvenor's Liverpool One Project under construction - looking down South John Street, August 2007
Mr Holmes added: “He said that Liverpool One was the project of which he was most proud.
“He understood how low the City had become and in 2000 he was determined to use his resources. He recognised that Liverpool One was not only a property investment, it was a catalyst for a profound turnaround, economic and social, in the city region.”
In an interview with the ECHO’s former sister paper, the Liverpool Daily Post, in 2008, the Duke said he was “delighted” with the way local people had taken to the Liverpool One development.

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The Duke of Westminster, Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor, who died aged 64 at Royal Preston Hospital in Lancashire (Image: Grosvenor Estate/PA Wire)
He added: “We have had a very positive response to it.
“We have stemmed the flow of shoppers going down the M56 to shop elsewhere. They were going all over the place.
“This is why Liverpool was in the state it was. The money earned in Liverpool was not being spent in Liverpool. It was paying somebody else’s rates.
“We now have clear evidence people come from the other side of the Pennines to shop in Liverpool. We have busloads of people coming from Leeds and Sheffield for the day. It is a scheme that I am particularly proud of.”

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Liverpool One transformed the city centre
In the end, Grosvenor did find fresh investors to replace Henderson and virtually all of the shop units were let. Liverpool One has made the city one of the top six destinations in Britain for shopping, up from 16th most popular destination previously.
Together with the nearby Echo Arena and BT Convention Centre, also opened in 2008, Liverpool One helped give a huge lift to the Liverpool property market.
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The Liverpool Daily Post recognised the importance of the Duke’s investment in the city when it made him Business Person of the Year in its 2008 Regional Business Awards.
Speaking about the award, the Duke said at the time: “Looking at it from a personal perspective, over all these years that I’ve been involved in development, whether it be here or overseas, it’s the one that I’m particularly proud of.

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Thousands watch the Liverpool ONE Christmas Lights get switched on, 2015
“I’ve known this city for many years, and for many of those years it has drifted. It has been very much regarded as the poor second cousin to all our other great industrial cities throughout the United Kingdom.
“But now it has a project which is a flagship. It has something that it can be deeply proud of.
“It provides, yes, jobs and prosperity. But, above all, it provides hope for the future.
“It provides hope for the young people who have hitherto left Liverpool to seek pastures green. It provides stability Liverpool can now build on.”

One of Liverpool’s largest property owners, George Downing, said the late Duke had made a huge contribution to the city’s prosperity.
Mr Downing said: “His passion for our region was well known and his investments made an enormously positive impact on Liverpool in particular, reshaping the city.
“He has left us far too soon but his legacy is a good one.”

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Trouble is, anyone with the sort of money needed to buy Liverpool has blood on their hands, either directly or indirectly.

Even the lovable, benevolent Jack Walker, who took unfashionable Blackburn to a league title, financed that via the unpaid labour of the steel workers of Lancashire.

Our very own benefactors of yesteryear made their fortune by leaning on the gambling weaknesses of a nation.

I have no answer as to who would be best to own us, but the whole conversation is sordid and distasteful.
 
It's been a while since news broke, can someone put together a shortlist of potential owner targets and with a brief rundown of their best attributes, what they would bring to us (have they got eye candy like Linda Henry as part of the package?) etc etc.
 
I think we need to stop thinking everything is clean and especially football is clean. These clubs pay huge amounts of money for players - money that some of us cannot even imagine, and most people don't give a shit - because it is the market. At the moment we have owners who operate in a very cool way and have built this club up as a business, but even they have acknowledged that the entire landscape is changing for our club to meet its ambitions - and to maintain its status. It don't make sense anymore when a 19 year old is being quoted at £120M. Its not normal, especially with FFP being completely useless to overcome the accounting capability of entire nation states. If people are against these shady type figures buying us and want to protest, then how about stop heating the house, stop filling up the car with petrol, stop going to Hajj (the muslim supporters like me), you know you could take this argument to such stupidity like for instance maybe I should stop praying in the direction of Mecca in case it benefits Newcastle united in some spiritual way.
 
Give me the grubbiest filthiest sports washing cunts you can find for a couple of seasons then i can retire as a football fan and go watch my kids in the park
 
Watching my kid play football with four and five year olds is the pinnacle of football.

We have a want away Italian forward who pouts when he doesn't get to play in his position and leaves the pitch at times entirely, until a concerted effort gets him to get back on again and be useful.

We have a columbian forward who is better than everyone, but can only run in the direction that he is facing, in a straight line. This is great when heading toward goal, but not so much if he's running back toward ours.

Last week there was a counter and the green team had one player back to defend, but he was looking at leaves on the ground. The other team blows by him and scores and everyone is celebrating and he holds a stunning red maple leaf up and says "look mommy!" amidst the celebrations.

I had to remind this poor little girl that she could use her hands, because she's the keeper, then she makes a save and leaves the ball just sitting on the line. Time stands still as the genetic freak 5 year old who is a foot taller than everyone else thinks they might just lord of the flies two foot the thing over the line, but then one of the "defenders" falls over and knocks it in anyway.

And my kid? Thoroughly mediocre. Yells at kids to spread out a little, and will actually defend a little. Ok, he's lucas. Who fucking cares.
 
Watching my kid play football with four and five year olds is the pinnacle of football.

We have a want away Italian forward who pouts when he doesn't get to play in his position and leaves the pitch at times entirely, until a concerted effort gets him to get back on again and be useful.

We have a columbian forward who is better than everyone, but can only run in the direction that he is facing, in a straight line. This is great when heading toward goal, but not so much if he's running back toward ours.

Last week there was a counter and the green team had one player back to defend, but he was looking at leaves on the ground. The other team blows by him and scores and everyone is celebrating and he holds a stunning red maple leaf up and says "look mommy!" amidst the celebrations.

I had to remind this poor little girl that she could use her hands, because she's the keeper, then she makes a save and leaves the ball just sitting on the line. Time stands still as the genetic freak 5 year old who is a foot taller than everyone else thinks they might just lord of the flies two foot the thing over the line, but then one of the "defenders" falls over and knocks it in anyway.

And my kid? Thoroughly mediocre. Yells at kids to spread out a little, and will actually defend a little. Ok, he's lucas. Who fucking cares.

Looking forward to this phase, our local team starts them at 5 so I’ve got a year to whip the oldest into shape… or teach him not to pick up leaves at least
 
Judging by how the Twitter takeover is going, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near LFC. He’ll come up with genius ideas like charging us $8 to start match threads on SCM while actually acquiring financing for the whole thing from the Saudis.

So Tony Stark just sold $3.95B worth of Tesla shares, for unknown reasons, causing the stock to plummet. Not easy being a Tesla shareholder.

He can stay as far away from our club.
 
Watching my kid play football with four and five year olds is the pinnacle of football.

We have a want away Italian forward who pouts when he doesn't get to play in his position and leaves the pitch at times entirely, until a concerted effort gets him to get back on again and be useful.

We have a columbian forward who is better than everyone, but can only run in the direction that he is facing, in a straight line. This is great when heading toward goal, but not so much if he's running back toward ours.

Last week there was a counter and the green team had one player back to defend, but he was looking at leaves on the ground. The other team blows by him and scores and everyone is celebrating and he holds a stunning red maple leaf up and says "look mommy!" amidst the celebrations.

I had to remind this poor little girl that she could use her hands, because she's the keeper, then she makes a save and leaves the ball just sitting on the line. Time stands still as the genetic freak 5 year old who is a foot taller than everyone else thinks they might just lord of the flies two foot the thing over the line, but then one of the "defenders" falls over and knocks it in anyway.

And my kid? Thoroughly mediocre. Yells at kids to spread out a little, and will actually defend a little. Ok, he's lucas. Who fucking cares.
Love it

I followed my lad from u8s up to adult team while he was growing up & thoroughly loved it - would willingly miss Liverpool matches (including Klopps debut at Spurs) to watch his team. Often I made up 100% of the crowd, excluding the manager.

Back then (and maybe still now) all age groups played on full size pitches with full size goals, so the strikers were coached to kick high when shooting as that would leave the 4'2" keeper no chance.

The boy has now moved to Belfast and taken up AFL (as its more violent). Having gone through his entire junior football career never winning a thing, he has now won the University European cup with his college team and an All Ireland with the Belfast team. To put it in some context, though, there are probably less than 100 people in Ireland who play AFL🙂
 
Love it

I followed my lad from u8s up to adult team while he was growing up & thoroughly loved it - would willingly miss Liverpool matches (including Klopps debut at Spurs) to watch his team. Often I made up 100% of the crowd, excluding the manager.

Back then (and maybe still now) all age groups played on full size pitches with full size goals, so the strikers were coached to kick high when shooting as that would leave the 4'2" keeper no chance.

The boy has now moved to Belfast and taken up AFL (as its more violent). Having gone through his entire junior football career never winning a thing, he has now won the University European cup with his college team and an All Ireland with the Belfast team. To put it in some context, though, there are probably less than 100 people in Ireland who play AFL🙂
Currently watching u7s with my boy. They now have small goals and a mini pitch.

They also play 4 x 10 minute quarters.
 
Love it

I followed my lad from u8s up to adult team while he was growing up & thoroughly loved it - would willingly miss Liverpool matches (including Klopps debut at Spurs) to watch his team. Often I made up 100% of the crowd, excluding the manager.

Back then (and maybe still now) all age groups played on full size pitches with full size goals, so the strikers were coached to kick high when shooting as that would leave the 4'2" keeper no chance.

The boy has now moved to Belfast and taken up AFL (as its more violent). Having gone through his entire junior football career never winning a thing, he has now won the University European cup with his college team and an All Ireland with the Belfast team. To put it in some context, though, there are probably less than 100 people in Ireland who play AFL🙂


A full pitch??

When I was 8 years old I would have collapsed from exhaustion after running two lengths of the pitch. The opposing team could have scored a hat trick by the time I "tracked back"
 
Love it

I followed my lad from u8s up to adult team while he was growing up & thoroughly loved it - would willingly miss Liverpool matches (including Klopps debut at Spurs) to watch his team. Often I made up 100% of the crowd, excluding the manager.

Back then (and maybe still now) all age groups played on full size pitches with full size goals, so the strikers were coached to kick high when shooting as that would leave the 4'2" keeper no chance.

The boy has now moved to Belfast and taken up AFL (as its more violent). Having gone through his entire junior football career never winning a thing, he has now won the University European cup with his college team and an All Ireland with the Belfast team. To put it in some context, though, there are probably less than 100 people in Ireland who play AFL🙂
I live in Ireland. What is AFL?
 
He’d have to buy a Time Machine first to go back and gazump FSG because he’s not affording it now
 
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