Run that “FSG greed has screwed us right up” bit by me again.
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Run that “FSG greed has screwed us right up” bit by me again.
The second we are owned by a sport washing nation I’m out of here and done with the club. I’d rather go watch marine.
Despite those cunt FSG, Liverpool would be a great buy. Unfortunately I don't believe anyone out there will risk thier money on a percentage of a club, and especially anything less than 51% of that Club.
The best bet to get rid of these cunts is for old John W. Henry to have a night of wild sex and cocaine and shed this mortal coil and his wife and Tom Werner sell off their shares. If not it will be another 20 years plus of mid-table football for us
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That’s like asking for a nympho hot bird who won’t go all wifey after the wedding. Ain’t happening.
And if there is one thing these guys know how to do is wait around for the right guy.
Better put any wishes for wild spending this summer on hold. Predicted FSG spend ~£35 million (inflation adjusted from last year).
Do admire FSGs approach to attracting investments though. Can we keep our controlling stake at 51% but can you super rich chaps give us £2 billion pls…
Do admire FSGs approach to attracting investments though. Can we keep our controlling stake at 51% but can you super rich chaps give us £2 billion pls…
I'm always intrigued as to how members of the general public get to know the spending intentions of a private business.
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Come Kuwait save us! Me, I'm not so moralistic, I'll still be here.
Sheikh Jassim has officially bid for Man U and not QIA, at the end of the day its all the same source.
No, its not. Just hope they dont linger on this to long and make a decision soon.
I was reading it and thinking you had been bested, but you're right, we can't measure these posts with the same yard stick.
"cocainnad shead this mortal coil" is clearly the product of a random key generator.
That’s exactly what will happen
Maybe not ratcliffe as he’s a scum fan.
At the end of the day FSG play their cards close to their chest... Jim Broughton's story had me left wondering what's going on? 1st it was a full sale then it was a partial sale, now we hear they're just "testing the water".
From the little we know, the Qataris only made informal/soft offers. There are no reliable rumours circulating who the other investors are
From the little we know, the Qataris only made informal/soft offers. There are no reliable rumours circulating who the other investors are
It boils down to big fingers, tiredness, not proofreading, or spell checking, But hey! " judge not yet ye be judged"
He’s in it for publicity, nothing more. Surely he’s not being taken seriously
If you read the article I am thinking of, I kind of figured out about so called rich owners coming in, most would prefer something in London where they have a nice pad in Kensington/Chelsea. It's a big ask to expect anything north of £2BN and then tell someone - "Oh year, we are still going to be in control - thanks for the money...", and the club aint' even close to your luxury apartment in London.
John Henry didn't relocate to Zidanes old house, it's not like owners are under any obligation to live near their clubs. Abromavich is probably an exception for mega wealthy owners in that he lived close by and attended alot of games.
Billionaires usually fly around in a Helicopter, so London to Liverpool can be done in an hour.
Broughtons co-investors were all Chelsea supporters, and he'd thought he would pass the idea of buying Liverpool, on a Footballing level, they didn't feel it. Imagine having a board of filled with Chelsea Supporters?
The club hasn't made any announcements, but here's my take:
Broughton suggests that FSG are testing the water. However, back in November /December, it was revealed through their own paper that they were looking to sell the club. Then the stories come out they were looking for a minority sale in LFC wanting to retain a majority share, well if that's the case why relieve Mike Gordon of his role at the club?
I said it, FSG are here for the summer window at the very least, and as LFC is not a PLC nothing has to be made public. Every potential bidder has to sign an NDA, which Broughton didn't do, as he wasn't a bidder. The Qataris want Man U, arguably the biggest team in the world, its a vanity thing. We are the better investment. If we win the CL and or make top 4, it will make for an interesting summer.
@Beamrider who worked in M&A could tell you more of what FSG plan to do based on the few bits of scrimp data/news
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‘Fenway Sports Group As A Company…’ – Liverpool Owners’ Plans Outlined By Chief Executive As ‘Revenue’ Claim Is Made
By Sports Center News On Feb 19, 2023
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FSG have a ‘revenue first mentality’ but are a company ‘designed to win championships’ with the teams that they own according to chief executive Sam Kennedy.
John Henry and co have been searching for further investment at Liverpool since they released a bombshell statement back in November but are believed to be wanting to remain the majority shareholders of the club.
Although FSG may have somewhat divided opinion since purchasing the club back in 2010, the Americans have ensured stability for the Anfield outfit both on and off the pitch.
“We are a platform company designed to win championships with the teams and clubs it owns and operates.” Kennedy said whilst speaking on the Capital Allocators Private Equity Deals Podcast with Ted Seides (as quoted by the Liverpool Echo). “That’s first and foremost because the business flows and the value creation flows from winning. That is our north star, winning championships and being involved in markets that have incredibly avid fan bases that care deeply about their teams.
“We have a revenue first mentality here where we are trying to generate as much revenue as possible from every source, and then we have been re-investing it into the product on the field and into the venues in which we occupy.
READ MORE: ‘The Liverpool team that we’re used to’ – Alexander-Arnold discusses ‘massive’ win against Newcastle as Reds now aim for consistency
“Fenway Sports Group as a company has great revenues and growth and profitability, but the individual sports team assets have years that are up and down, that are break-even, that are cash losses, and I think it takes a really special type of investor, someone who really has gone into the space and who understands the space to see where the value creation comes from. It’s not a quarterly look at EBITDA or cash flow, it’s really building long-term equity value through investing those revenues back into the product.
“We look at what moves the needle. Primarily it is big blue chip assets in major markets that hopefully need to ramp up the revenue engine but also the competitive engine on the field, on the pitch, on the ice or on the track. We are passionate about it.”
The Liverpool Echo claim that no offer for the club has yet been tabled from any potential investors but it’s believed that Liverpool will be active in the transfer market come the summer.
Strengthening our options the middle of the park is a priority with Borussia Dortmund star Jude Bellingham believed to be the club’s main transfer target at the moment.
FSG have often been criticised for not backing Jurgen Klopp enough financially in the transfer market but it’s believed that they’ll provide at least £200m to the German at the end of the season to make essential signings to ensure the Reds remain as competitive as possible on all fronts for the foreseeable future.
Liverpool went painfully close to completing a glorious quadruple last term while this season the squad has struggled for consistency.
Finishing in the top four is still a very real possibility, however, while winning our seventh European Cup is something that shouldn’t be ruled out – even if we do face 14-time winners Real Madrid in the last-16
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‘Fenway Sports Group As A Company…’ – Liverpool Owners’ Plans Outlined By Chief Executive As ‘Revenue’ Claim Is Made
By Sports Center News On Feb 19, 2023
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FSG have a ‘revenue first mentality’ but are a company ‘designed to win championships’ with the teams that they own according to chief executive Sam Kennedy.
John Henry and co have been searching for further investment at Liverpool since they released a bombshell statement back in November but are believed to be wanting to remain the majority shareholders of the club.
Although FSG may have somewhat divided opinion since purchasing the club back in 2010, the Americans have ensured stability for the Anfield outfit both on and off the pitch.
“We are a platform company designed to win championships with the teams and clubs it owns and operates.” Kennedy said whilst speaking on the Capital Allocators Private Equity Deals Podcast with Ted Seides (as quoted by the Liverpool Echo). “That’s first and foremost because the business flows and the value creation flows from winning. That is our north star, winning championships and being involved in markets that have incredibly avid fan bases that care deeply about their teams.
“We have a revenue first mentality here where we are trying to generate as much revenue as possible from every source, and then we have been re-investing it into the product on the field and into the venues in which we occupy.
READ MORE: ‘The Liverpool team that we’re used to’ – Alexander-Arnold discusses ‘massive’ win against Newcastle as Reds now aim for consistency
“Fenway Sports Group as a company has great revenues and growth and profitability, but the individual sports team assets have years that are up and down, that are break-even, that are cash losses, and I think it takes a really special type of investor, someone who really has gone into the space and who understands the space to see where the value creation comes from. It’s not a quarterly look at EBITDA or cash flow, it’s really building long-term equity value through investing those revenues back into the product.
“We look at what moves the needle. Primarily it is big blue chip assets in major markets that hopefully need to ramp up the revenue engine but also the competitive engine on the field, on the pitch, on the ice or on the track. We are passionate about it.”
The Liverpool Echo claim that no offer for the club has yet been tabled from any potential investors but it’s believed that Liverpool will be active in the transfer market come the summer.
Strengthening our options the middle of the park is a priority with Borussia Dortmund star Jude Bellingham believed to be the club’s main transfer target at the moment.
FSG have often been criticised for not backing Jurgen Klopp enough financially in the transfer market but it’s believed that they’ll provide at least £200m to the German at the end of the season to make essential signings to ensure the Reds remain as competitive as possible on all fronts for the foreseeable future.
Liverpool went painfully close to completing a glorious quadruple last term while this season the squad has struggled for consistency.
Finishing in the top four is still a very real possibility, however, while winning our seventh European Cup is something that shouldn’t be ruled out – even if we do face 14-time winners Real Madrid in the last-16
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We'll see what the future holds' - FSG chief Sam Kennedy makes 'extraordinary' Liverpool admission
FSG CEO Sam Kennedy was quizzed on the state of play with regards to Liverpool's investment search
Speaking on the Private Equity Deals Podcast with Capital Allocators, FSG CEO Kennedy revealed he did not know what would happen with the 'investment' into the club and that it would be a case of seeing what the future held.
"We did a while back engage investment banks, we've been open about that," Kennedy told host Ted Seides.
"We've been open in our willingness to take on investment into the club, will it happen or not, I don't know. But we share a common vision with all of our partners and that is long-term. John (Henry, FSG principal) and Tom (Werner, Liverpool chairman) have been at this for 21 years but you would think they had been at it for 21 days. They are enthusiastic and excited for everything at Fenway Sports Group and think about what's next.
"We do focus a lot on ways that we can help increase revenues (at Liverpool) and the growth we've seen over in Liverpool has been extraordinary, and I think that's because markets like the United States are just sort of catching on to the excitement around this league.
"We'll see what the future holds for Liverpool but it's been an amazing business."
Kennedy was also quizzed on where the value proposition lay within the ownership of the teams in their $10bn portfolio, which include Liverpool, the Boston Red Sox MLB team, the Pittsburgh Penguins of the NHL and NASCAR team RFK Racing. In his explanation, Kennedy revealed the kind of investor who may fit the bill for what FSG are looking for with Liverpool.
Kennedy said: "We are a platform company designed to win championships with the teams and clubs it owns and operates. That's first and foremost because the business flows and the value creation flows from winning. That is our north star, winning championships and being involved in markets that have incredibly avid fan bases that care deeply about their teams.
"We have a revenue first mentality here where we are trying to generate as much revenue as possible from every source, and then we have been re-investing it into the product on the field and into the venues in which we occupy.
"Fenway Sports Group as a company has great revenues and growth and profitability, but the individual sports team assets have years that are up and down, that are break-even, that are cash losses, and I think it takes a really special type of investor, someone who really has gone into the space and who understands the space to see where the value creation comes from. It's not a quarterly look at EBITDA or cash flow, it's really building long-term equity value through investing those revenues back into the product."
Sources close to the situation in the US maintain that the preference for FSG is to find a minority partner, their desire to open themselves up to the market born from the perceived overvaluation of Chelsea last year and the desire for some minority partners to assess their options with regards to divesting and cashing out, a move that would free up equity to sell.
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We'll see what the future holds' - FSG chief Sam Kennedy makes 'extraordinary' Liverpool admission
FSG CEO Sam Kennedy was quizzed on the state of play with regards to Liverpool's investment search
Speaking on the Private Equity Deals Podcast with Capital Allocators, FSG CEO Kennedy revealed he did not know what would happen with the 'investment' into the club and that it would be a case of seeing what the future held.
"We did a while back engage investment banks, we've been open about that," Kennedy told host Ted Seides.
"We've been open in our willingness to take on investment into the club, will it happen or not, I don't know. But we share a common vision with all of our partners and that is long-term. John (Henry, FSG principal) and Tom (Werner, Liverpool chairman) have been at this for 21 years but you would think they had been at it for 21 days. They are enthusiastic and excited for everything at Fenway Sports Group and think about what's next.
"We do focus a lot on ways that we can help increase revenues (at Liverpool) and the growth we've seen over in Liverpool has been extraordinary, and I think that's because markets like the United States are just sort of catching on to the excitement around this league.
"We'll see what the future holds for Liverpool but it's been an amazing business."
Kennedy was also quizzed on where the value proposition lay within the ownership of the teams in their $10bn portfolio, which include Liverpool, the Boston Red Sox MLB team, the Pittsburgh Penguins of the NHL and NASCAR team RFK Racing. In his explanation, Kennedy revealed the kind of investor who may fit the bill for what FSG are looking for with Liverpool.
Kennedy said: "We are a platform company designed to win championships with the teams and clubs it owns and operates. That's first and foremost because the business flows and the value creation flows from winning. That is our north star, winning championships and being involved in markets that have incredibly avid fan bases that care deeply about their teams.
"We have a revenue first mentality here where we are trying to generate as much revenue as possible from every source, and then we have been re-investing it into the product on the field and into the venues in which we occupy.
"Fenway Sports Group as a company has great revenues and growth and profitability, but the individual sports team assets have years that are up and down, that are break-even, that are cash losses, and I think it takes a really special type of investor, someone who really has gone into the space and who understands the space to see where the value creation comes from. It's not a quarterly look at EBITDA or cash flow, it's really building long-term equity value through investing those revenues back into the product."
Sources close to the situation in the US maintain that the preference for FSG is to find a minority partner, their desire to open themselves up to the market born from the perceived overvaluation of Chelsea last year and the desire for some minority partners to assess their options with regards to divesting and cashing out, a move that would free up equity to sell.
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Manchester United owners the Glazer family could yet retain a stake in the club if Elliott Investment Management are chosen as the new investors, it has been claimed.
The Glazers put United up for sale in November, while also leaving themselves open to investment rather than a full takeover. The initial soft deadline for bids passed on February 17. Elliott, who registered their interest at the eleventh hour, could allow the American family to keep an interest in the Premier League side.
This marks them out from other potential investors. Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani is pushing for a 100 per cent takeover, while Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS have bid for majority ownership.
According to ESPN, Elliott - who are keen to supply financing rather than completing a full takeover themselves - could offer the Glazers a chance to stay. This is despite the family, who also own the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, remaining unpopular with sections of United's support.
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Manchester United owners the Glazer family could yet retain a stake in the club if Elliott Investment Management are chosen as the new investors, it has been claimed.
The Glazers put United up for sale in November, while also leaving themselves open to investment rather than a full takeover. The initial soft deadline for bids passed on February 17. Elliott, who registered their interest at the eleventh hour, could allow the American family to keep an interest in the Premier League side.
This marks them out from other potential investors. Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani is pushing for a 100 per cent takeover, while Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS have bid for majority ownership.
According to ESPN, Elliott - who are keen to supply financing rather than completing a full takeover themselves - could offer the Glazers a chance to stay. This is despite the family, who also own the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, remaining unpopular with sections of United's support.
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