Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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Like anyone working and not much else, all I've been seeing are memes, and no context whatsoever. But id agree she's probably made of sterner stuff than Johnson
Downing Street states BoJo isn’t on a ventilator. That means BoJo is on a ventilator.
Unless he was directly asked about a ventilator it seems strange to mention it.
Or he needs one of 30,000 they ordered. Only 300 have arrived so he’s waiting.
Only from a labour supporter.
He also said he hadn't spoken to Bojo since he entered hospital. So I'm not sure how he knows
Probably read it on Twitter
CHLOROQUINE
Good Article :
It's also been picked up by US president Donald Trump, who promoted it as a cure and said it would be fast-tracked to be available to Americans.
But is it the cure?
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This is very early days to start talking about anything as a cure and it needs a lot more testing.
Some researchers have said chloroquine shows great promise as a treatment, though scientists have agreed that more trials are needed to determine if the drug is really effective and safe.
Professor Raoult is a respected expert in his field, but this is just the beginning of the process.
Although chloroquine itself has already been tested extensively and cleared for market use, no-one really knows what its effects will be on coronavirus, whether there will be any side effects and whether any other drugs could prove to be just as effective.
Early indications from Strasbourg hospital, which is involved in the testing, are that some of the patients in a serious condition did not deteriorate to the point where intensive care was needed.
However as the trials have gone on, several dozen patients have reported undesirable side effects, and there seems to be an associated risk of arrhythmia, which can lead to heart attacks.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200324/chloroquine-what-is-the-drug-the-french-scientists-say-could-treat-coronavirus
From the Guardian
What does the evidence show?
The French study followed work by Chinese researchers which suggested that hydroxychloroquine can slow infections from Sars-CoV-2, the virus behind Covid-19, by blocking it from entering cells in the body. But more recent, albeit small-scale, research from China has shown that patients who were treated with the drugs fought off coronavirus no more quickly than those who didn’t get it. Indeed, one patient given hydroxychloroquine severely worsened in condition while four patients on the medicine developed signs of liver damage and experienced diarrhea.
Regardless of these findings, any drug being used for a certain purpose before full clinical trials are completed is, by definition, untested and unproven. It’s too early to say if hydroxychloroquine can have a major benefit or not.
The European Medicines Agency, an agency of the EU, has said hydroxychloroquine should not be taken by coronavirus patients except for clinical trials or emergency use programs.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/apr/06/coronavirus-cure-fact-check-hydroxychloroquine-trump
Good Article :
It's also been picked up by US president Donald Trump, who promoted it as a cure and said it would be fast-tracked to be available to Americans.
But is it the cure?
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This is very early days to start talking about anything as a cure and it needs a lot more testing.
Some researchers have said chloroquine shows great promise as a treatment, though scientists have agreed that more trials are needed to determine if the drug is really effective and safe.
Professor Raoult is a respected expert in his field, but this is just the beginning of the process.
Although chloroquine itself has already been tested extensively and cleared for market use, no-one really knows what its effects will be on coronavirus, whether there will be any side effects and whether any other drugs could prove to be just as effective.
Early indications from Strasbourg hospital, which is involved in the testing, are that some of the patients in a serious condition did not deteriorate to the point where intensive care was needed.
However as the trials have gone on, several dozen patients have reported undesirable side effects, and there seems to be an associated risk of arrhythmia, which can lead to heart attacks.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200324/chloroquine-what-is-the-drug-the-french-scientists-say-could-treat-coronavirus
From the Guardian
What does the evidence show?
The French study followed work by Chinese researchers which suggested that hydroxychloroquine can slow infections from Sars-CoV-2, the virus behind Covid-19, by blocking it from entering cells in the body. But more recent, albeit small-scale, research from China has shown that patients who were treated with the drugs fought off coronavirus no more quickly than those who didn’t get it. Indeed, one patient given hydroxychloroquine severely worsened in condition while four patients on the medicine developed signs of liver damage and experienced diarrhea.
Regardless of these findings, any drug being used for a certain purpose before full clinical trials are completed is, by definition, untested and unproven. It’s too early to say if hydroxychloroquine can have a major benefit or not.
The European Medicines Agency, an agency of the EU, has said hydroxychloroquine should not be taken by coronavirus patients except for clinical trials or emergency use programs.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/apr/06/coronavirus-cure-fact-check-hydroxychloroquine-trump
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Yep. It's being studied but still no good evidence and should certainly not be used outside of the hospital setting (and ideally part of a research study).
Promoting anything else is reckless and criminal.
None of the above.
Is he really in bad shape?
I don’t want any politician to die but it’s a spectrum, obviously.
He's a proper fatty, mate.
I’ve checked your picks for the Celebrity Death Pool - no changing them.
Thelocal.fr and a self indulgent guardian article do not make science backed research papers do they.
The united states FDA have rushed through an approval for it, and they don't approve anything at haste.
Australia have approved it.
India are stockpiling it.
The russians are using something similar (Mefloquine) to effectively treat it.
But if the guardian is citing a small french study then that's that and the FDA etal can get fucked.
Also, my mrs works for a pharma and one of her competitors has found that a head lice treatment for dogs also kills it. Obviously that one is a long long way from every getting near a humans, but pretending there are no safe human treatments for it or preventions, is a little disingenuous.
Some of that malaria treatment has side effects a lot less that regular ibruprofen.
Some of that malaria treatment has side effects a lot less that regular ibruprofen.
There's a great great story behind how someone discovered that.
Also why do dog head lice stick to the head? How do they even know when the head is ending and they're crossing the border?
None of this makes any sense Mors. Did you dream this last night?
I'm not sure why I'm even entertaining replying to you, I must be feeling generous
https://pharmafield.co.uk/pharma_news/study_shows_anti-parasitic_drug_ivermectin_kills_coronavirus/
https://pharmafield.co.uk/pharma_news/study_shows_anti-parasitic_drug_ivermectin_kills_coronavirus/
Perhaps whenever they can no longer hear the panting they stop walking?