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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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So, I'm guessing there will be no Asain Tour pre-season then 😉

Two things...

1) Can't understand why they h chosen a hospital in the Wirral to house, or should I say quarantine people coming back from Wuhan... Would make more sense if they used an Air base in the UK. That way they could fly directly in and It would be relatively isolated should a accident occur, let chance of it speading

2) I have never been inoculated with the MMR vaccine and have bben in close contact with people would had measles, and mumps on a few occassions, never effected me... don,t even think Ebola would effect me. Yet a Cold or Flu... If someone sneezes in China then i have it the next day

But worried... No
The next lot are going to Milton Keynes.
 
Ah well my wife has been spooked by her brothers living in Austria so now we are off to Vienna for a few months until it dies down here (like all flu viruses the warmer weather kills it off). Then no doubt it will be all the rage in Europe and we'll be flying back here to get away from it !

EDIT. For clarification, not wanting to appear selfish, we've been at home for weeks now and have no signs of the virus (about two weeks since our last 'sortie').
Once we arrive in Austria we have arranged for 'self-quarantine. We are using one of my wife's brothers apartments for 2 weeks whilst he takes up residence in our hotel room. We will swap after our self-imposed 'quarantine' period.
 
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Ah well my wife has been spooked by her brothers living in Austria so now we are off to Vienna for a few months until it dies down here (like all flu viruses the warmer weather kills it off). Then no doubt it will be all the rage in Europe and we'll be flying back here to get away from it !
Yep.. the government advice here is that 'it will peak' over the summer.
 
Ah well my wife has been spooked by her brothers living in Austria so now we are off to Vienna for a few months until it dies down here (like all flu viruses the warmer weather kills it off). Then no doubt it will be all the rage in Europe and we'll be flying back here to get away from it !
Hahaha pass the good stuff on. China residents not barred from entry in Austria? Australia is. Glad you guys are OK.
 
Yep.. the government advice here is that 'it will peak' over the summer.
I doubt that. If this virus corresponds to the trend of other coronaviruses (see 'flu') then it will virtually disappear once the warmer weather arrives. But may return in the Winter since it is now established.
Additionally if we look at the example of Wuhan it took maybe 2 months to reach its peak there (and cities such as Shanghai or Beijing have extremely low numbers of infected so could be at the start of it's cycle). It hasn't even really started in the UK yet so once it breaks (if it breaks) then add at the very least three months.
 
Hahaha pass the good stuff on. China residents not barred from entry in Austria? Australia is. Glad you guys are OK.
Cheers mate. No there is only one country in Europe banning expats (or specifically Chinese nationals) resident in China, Italy, though I've heard the South of France (but not North) have also implemented restrictions. I called the UK embassy in Beijing and they said no resitrictions either. Just a matter of time though.

Still I'm expecting multiple checks and maybe even a quarantine by the time we get there. Setting up my laptop now - ready for a lot of photograph processing if we are 😀
 
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There was a dude on Radio 4 this morning saying everywhere should adopt Chinese style lockdown measures, but half the population will probs get it anyways.
 
There was a dude on Radio 4 this morning saying everywhere should adopt Chinese style lockdown measures, but half the population will probs get it anyways.
I think it was WHO that said (maybe some other medical institute - I've read so many reports) that said 80% of the world's population. Amazing then that the 'standard' flu coronavirus hasn't infected so many. Rather extreme prediction methinks, though there is no doubt that lockdowns and quarantines are restricting the rate of infection it may still eventually spread globally.

Still, the cruise ship locked up in Japan is an interesting test case. 80% of the passengers are over 60 (and I think I read 20% over 80) so one would assume some have respiratory problems. It will be interesting to see what the final fatality rate is because a very high proportion of the passengers are infected, showing the virility and transmission rates of Covid-19.
 
What I find interesting is the very low mortality rate outside China. Could it means early detection and treatment helped? If so, it means that most deaths in China (2% of total infected) are really the very poor in health and the elderly who were admitted too late?
 
What I find interesting is the very low mortality rate outside China. Could it means early detection and treatment helped? If so, it means that most deaths in China (2% of total infected) are really the very poor in health and the elderly who were admitted too late?
I think that's almost certain tbh. Hence why I'm not at all worried about it.
 
What I find interesting is the very low mortality rate outside China. Could it means early detection and treatment helped? If so, it means that most deaths in China (2% of total infected) are really the very poor in health and the elderly who were admitted too late?
OK but even 2% is 1:50 and there is only Japan (and only on the cruise ship), Singapore (67) and HK (52) that have more than 50 infected and the deaths have occured in three places (all 1 each) : Philippines, HK and Japan (she was 80 yrs old). So the 1:50 rate seems relatively constant.

Although there are many deaths in China that don't apply to either the 'over 60 or with respiratory issues' (the 32 year old Doctor that 'discovered' this virus for example) again the vast majority do fall within that demographic.

The other point worth noting is that most global travellers are either business people or well under 60 years old and one would assume most of those in good health so unrepresentative of the general population as affected in China.

EDIT. I've just read that there was a fatality in France, though it does seem to correspond to the established trend.

A Chinese tourist has died in France after contracting the new coronavirus - the first fatality from the disease outside Asia.
The victim was an 80-year-old man from China's Hubei province, according to French Health Minister Agnès Buzyn.
He arrived in France on 16 January and was placed in quarantine in hospital in Paris on 25 January, she said.
 
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It's not man made.

I don't think the Chinese would do such a thing to ethnic Chinese people. They would just round them up and kill them the old fashioned way instead.
 
For the avoidance of doubt - which I always exercise with RedNinja - Dean R Koontz has written over a hundred sci-fi, horror and thriller novels, including one about a genetically-modified killer baboon.

He is not a scientist, or deep-cover Black Ops CIA Operative, and nor does he possess any pre-cognitive ability.
 
Dean Koontz youth horror books first got me into the genre when I was about 10, & then I found Herbert & King shortly afterwards, so when I tried his adult books it was quite underwhelming how poor they were compared to his peers.
 
Dean Koontz youth horror books first got me into the genre when I was about 10, & then I found Herbert & King shortly afterwards, so when I tried his adult books it was quite underwhelming how poor they were compared to his peers.

I actually read part of his genetically-modified killer baboon genre classic ("Watchers") out loud in my English class when I was about 13.

I don't think I've read one since, although I have a vague recollection of some kind of mind-reading serial killer hiding in a funfair. Might have been a dream.
OR WAS IT?!
 
Yeah, plus they wouldn't want the disruption to trade. They have plenty more efficient ways to kill people. Allegedly.

It could have been the Yanks. Embroiled in a trade war , what better way to cripple the Chinese economy ?

And there is an American professor who worked in the Wuhan lab facing charges in the US.
 
I guess it's just a coincidence that it binds to Ace2 receptors , a protein that is five times more prevalent in East Asian people
 
But it didn't come from a bat. They're saying snakes now

But definitely not from the local Virology Lab that's full of Coronovirus and people studying it.
 
But it didn't come from a bat. They're saying snakes now

But definitely not from the local Virology Lab that's full of Coronovirus and people studying it.

Your hilarious predilection for any outlandish tin-foil hat conspiracy theory may even outstrip RedNinja.
But that aside, what the fuck kind of genius invents and releases a virus that actually fucks their OWN economy?

Because where the fuck do you think Apple gets its phones made? Or half of US manufacturers get car parts from?
Over a quarter of all the shit sold in fucking Wal-Mart is made in China.

If this gets worse it's going to tank the US economy.
 
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