Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

[dantes]

I think there is one positive though, all those especially from the far right questioning the vaccines efficacy and the loss of freedom, they seem to all finally acknowledge the holocaust was a thing and the sympathise with the plights of the jews who suffered such inhumanity. Who would have thought this pre covid?

No my child, only the lord can inject fresh love into humanity through his divine gifts of the vaccine and financial debt. It is a heretical lie to say that humanity can be better without his divine intervention. Take your sinful point, for each right wing person that now opines the holocaust, a dozen left wingers simultaneously turn the other cheek to the holocaust that has currently befallen the Uyghurs. So you see, there is more evil today, not less. Faith is the only answer and the only way to avoid the oblivion of eternal damnation. Repent my child, before it is too late.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

@dantes - have you repented?

 

[dantes]

You dare question the faith of a prophet? I will not even dignify that with an answer.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

You dare question the faith of a prophet? I will not even dignify that with an answer.

Did you repent?
Yes or No.
You better answer.

 

[dantes]

Did you repent?
Yes or No.
You better answer.

You want answers?

 

[dantes]

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with equations. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Oncy, and you curse the Church. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Oncy's death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

We use words like "lord," "divine," "righteous." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a calculator and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

 

[rubans]

No my child, only the lord can inject fresh love into humanity through his divine gifts of the vaccine and financial debt. It is a heretical lie to say that humanity can be better without his divine intervention. Take your sinful point, for each right wing person that now opines the holocaust, a dozen left wingers simultaneously turn the other cheek to the holocaust that has currently befallen the Uyghurs. So you see, there is more evil today, not less. Faith is the only answer and the only way to avoid the oblivion of eternal damnation. Repent my child, before it is too late.

The prophet shtick is unravelling bit there, couldn’t keep it past christmas I guess…
So far not seen any right wingers mention Uyghurs but only jews but happy to include them for context if you like, I don’t follow much GBNews tweets but pls do include me in the morning sermons.

 

[dantes]

It will please you to know that the sermons will be totally free for the first month and thereafter nominal donations will be taken praise be to our lord.

 

[Rosco]

Yes, as a resource for collating all the bullshit, misinformation and dodgy websites in one place and for advice on things not to do, it’s been top notch.

You’re like the Jeffrey Epstein of bullshit trafficking.

Your track record on being able to recognise bullshit is well known, unfortunately it's terrible.

 

[StevieM]

Your track record on being able to recognise bullshit is well known, unfortunately it's terrible.

It’s demonstrably and infinitely better than yours, when you got caught posting shite that came with a disclaimer telling you to not believe it and speak to a medical professional before doing anything.

Feel free to break out some of your greatest hits, if your battered ego needs to.

One of these days you really must share what you’re getting out of all this...

 

[Rosco]

It’s demonstrably and infinitely better than yours, when you got caught posting shite that came with a disclaimer telling you to not believe it and speak to a medical professional before doing anything.

Feel free to break out some of your greatest hits, if your battered ego needs to.

One of these days you really must share what you’re getting out of all this...

It's this complete lack of understanding that makes you so gullible.

The accuracy of the video was commented on by Robert Malone , who said it's 100% facts.

However, because the fact checkers (who admit in court filings they aren't qualified and aren't verifying facts just providing opinions) have claimed it misinformation you've gone out of your way to convince yourself it must be rubbish.

We saw your track record in action on the Hunter Biden laptop - you fell hook line and sinker for the disinformation that was spread by reliable sources and ignored the evidence right in front of your face. And the same media outlets are pulling the same tricks here and you're again falling for it.

What you see as a conspiracy theory now, will ultimately be the accepted norm in 12 months time. And you'll spend twelve months attempting to avoid the truth - it's that bit that entertains me. The mental gymnastics that people have to do to try to continue to believe complete and utter horseshit is hilarious.

 

[Rosco]

https://www.researchgate.net/public...0517_Subjects_Using_Propensity_Score_Matching

Results: A total of 220,517 subjects were included in the analysis; 133,051 (60.3%) regular ivermectin users and 87,466 (39.7%) non-users. Using PSM, two cohorts of 3,034 subjects suffering COVID-19 infection were compared. The regular use of ivermectin led to a 68% reduction in COVID-19 mortality [25 (0.8%) versus 79 (2.6%) among ivermectin non-users; risk ratio (RR), 0.32; 95% confidence interval (CI), 0.20 – 0.49; p < 0.0001]. When adjusted for residual variables, reduction in mortality rate was 70% (RR, 0.30; 95%CI 0.19 – 0.46; p < 0.0001). There was a 56% reduction in hospitalization rate (44 versus 99 hospitalizations among ivermectin users and non-users, respectively; RR, 0.44; 95%CI, 0.31 – 0.63; p < 0.0001). After adjustment for residual variables, reduction in hospitalization rate was 67% (RR, 0.33; 95%CI 023 – 0.66; p < 0.0001). Conclusion: In this large, propensity score matched study, regular use of ivermectin as a prophylactic agent was associated with significantly reduced COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, and mortality rates

 

[StevieM]

The mental gymnastics that people have to do to try to continue to believe complete and utter horseshit is hilarious.

Stop it... you’ll make me spit beer all over the dining room table!!!

 

[6TimesaRed]

I think there is one positive though, all those especially from the far right questioning the vaccines efficacy and the loss of freedom, they seem to all finally acknowledge the holocaust was a thing and the sympathise with the plights of the jews who suffered such inhumanity. Who would have thought this pre covid?

Not entirely positive to be fair.. on the flip side if you are 'Pro-Palestinian'. you still get labelled Anti-Semetic by the far right it seems, all part of the process..

Supporting Palestinian rights is only 'Anti Semitic' because Israel want it to be....


https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/h...n-criticism-of-israel-and-anti-semitism-47261

 

[StevieM]

How is the Italy hack investigation going by the way Ross?

Still waiting on that new info from Ukraine you were talking about last week.

Still waiting on the Cyber Ninja Report to. Ring down the government.

Actually... you could help me find these Biden Laptop things I’m supposed to have said as well... I vaguely recall saying it sounded like horseshit... ie the blind IT repair man and the laptop that appeared in Rudi Giuliani’s possession a month before a Presidential election

For the record - I believe that laptops exist..

What else you got?

 

[StevieM]

https://www.researchgate.net/public...0517_Subjects_Using_Propensity_Score_Matching

Results: A total of 220,517 subjects were included in the analysis; 133,051 (60.3%) regular ivermectin users and 87,466 (39.7%) non-users. Using PSM, two cohorts of 3,034 subjects suffering COVID-19 infection were compared. The regular use of ivermectin led to a 68% reduction in COVID-19 mortality [25 (0.8%) versus 79 (2.6%) among ivermectin non-users; risk ratio (RR), 0.32; 95% confidence interval (CI), 0.20 – 0.49; p < 0.0001]. When adjusted for residual variables, reduction in mortality rate was 70% (RR, 0.30; 95%CI 0.19 – 0.46; p < 0.0001). There was a 56% reduction in hospitalization rate (44 versus 99 hospitalizations among ivermectin users and non-users, respectively; RR, 0.44; 95%CI, 0.31 – 0.63; p < 0.0001). After adjustment for residual variables, reduction in hospitalization rate was 67% (RR, 0.33; 95%CI 023 – 0.66; p < 0.0001). Conclusion: In this large, propensity score matched study, regular use of ivermectin as a prophylactic agent was associated with significantly reduced COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, and mortality rates

Talk me through it champ.

What are you telling us this means?

 

[LeTallecWiz]

You want answers?

Can you handle the truth Dantes?

 

[dantes]

Can you handle the truth Dantes?

Don't make me rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull. Don't fuck with the wrong prophet my child.

 

[Rosco]

Talk me through it champ.

What are you telling us this means?

Ivermectin works

 

[dantes]

Talk me through it champ.

What are you telling us this means?

It is a test my child, do not fall into temptation and listen to these vicious lies spoken by false prophets, do not break faith with our lord and refuse his fourth dose.

 

[dantes]

Ivermectin works

Heresy!!!!!! Burn him!!!!

 

[Rosco]

How is the Italy hack investigation going by the way Ross?

Still waiting on that new info from Ukraine you were talking about last week.

Still waiting on the Cyber Ninja Report to. Ring down the government.

Actually... you could help me find these Biden Laptop things I’m supposed to have said as well... I vaguely recall saying it sounded like horseshit... ie the blind IT repair man and the laptop that appeared in Rudi Giuliani’s possession a month before a Presidential election

For the record - I believe that laptops exist..

What else you got?

You've no choice but to believe it now. But when faced with the evidence early on you couldn't make that choice.

The new info from the Ukraine was made public by the Ukrainian prosecutors. You can find it easily if you search for it - albeit you'd never know it happened because none of your reliable media sources reported on it.

I wonder why the same media that tried to cover up a story for Biden are now not reporting on the developments in that same story ?

The election fraud is still being investigated, but more than 40% of America now believes there was election fraud based on the evidence available.

 

[StevieM]

Ivermectin works

Works at what?

Compared to what?

How did they prove this - what scientific experiments did they conduct?

Any other support studies that back this up? Presuming you’d want to stake your reputation on more than one study?

Hey... I’m here to be convinced - I have an open mind.

I’m sure you wouldn’t encourage just believing something without some sort of critical analysis or thought.

What’s the clincher that sold you on this one Ross? What got you across the line and made you think... wow!!! I better share this with everyone immediately!!!

 

[StevieM]

You've no choice but to believe it now. But when faced with the evidence early on you couldn't make that choice.

The new info from the Ukraine was made public by the Ukrainian prosecutors. You can find it easily if you search for it - albeit you'd never know it happened because none of your reliable media sources reported on it.

I wonder why the same media that tried to cover up a story for Biden are now not reporting on the developments in that same story ?

The election fraud is still being investigated, but more than 40% of America now believes there was election fraud based on the evidence available.

Information out of Ukraine that’s anti-Biden - tell me more - send me some links do I Bay educate myself.

Tell me about this evidence that’s convinced 40% of America... is that the 40% that voted for Trump... twice????

Don’t forget about the Italy hack l... you told us that it was the thing that would bring it all crashing down!!!!

Don’t tell me you’re not sure???

 

[Rosco]

Works at what?

Compared to what?

How did they prove this - what scientific experiments did they conduct?

Any other support studies that back this up? Presuming you’d want to stake your reputation on more than one study?

Hey... I’m here to be convinced - I have an open mind.

I’m sure you wouldn’t encourage just believing something without some sort of critical analysis or thought.

What’s the clincher that sold you on this one Ross? What got you across the line and made you think... wow!!! I better share this with everyone immediately!!!

It's just truly amazing how you and Gerry have been brainwashed to attack anything that undermines the case for the vaccine.

Why don't you read some of the 100's of studies done on the horse wormer yourself..

Why don't you also take the same approach to the vaccine studies, because if you bothered your hole to do that instead of find stupid reasons not to look at the evidence you'd actually have to rethink everything you think you know.

I think you might be horrified by what a "peer review" consists of for vaccine information from a big pharma company. It wouldn't meet your lofty standards.

 

[Halmeister]

Those two recent Rogan podcasts with John Abramson and Robert Malone seriously make one question the methods and the reliability of the pharmaceutical industry. If you weren't already questioning them before, that is.

I urge everyone to listen to them. They're not wild conspiracy theorists - both have been vaccinated and support it to some degree at the least (Robert Malone helped develop the technology! To what extent is debatable, but he certainly had a hand in it, so I think he's more than qualified to speak on it) - and they offer very reasonable arguments and balance to the situation. I wouldn't even go as far as suggesting listening to McCullough yet. But I think if you want a balanced viewpoint and you're on the ultra pro vaccine, pharma side, you could do with listening to these two, at the least.

 

[StevieM]

It's just truly amazing how you and Gerry have been brainwashed to attack anything that undermines the case for the vaccine.

Why don't you read some of the 100's of studies done on the horse wormer yourself..

Why don't you also take the same approach to the vaccine studies, because if you bothered your hole to do that instead of find stupid reasons not to look at the evidence you'd actually have to rethink everything you think you know.

Stop deflecting.

Tell us why you think this study provides incontrovertible evidence that you’re right.

I’m no expert... so I need a little convincing.

Here’s Nobel Laureate Professor Peter Doherty on the issue :

https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-eve...re-the-small-molecule-drugs-to-treat-covid-19

And here’s another one for you from the same source (NB - no disclaimers about their professional ability to talk about these things).

https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-eve...-ivermectin-the-path-to-this-point-has-been-r

So... for the absence doubt - I absolutely do not know whether Ivermectin is the “silver bullet” to save us all from COVID - are you saying it is, based on the study you posted.

Where did you find out about the study from - your own research?

Are you telling us you’re welded to your point of view and nothing will ever change it?

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

It's just truly amazing how you and Gerry have been brainwashed to attack anything that undermines the case for the vaccine.

Why don't you read some of the 100's of studies done on the horse wormer yourself..

Why don't you also take the same approach to the vaccine studies, because if you bothered your hole to do that instead of find stupid reasons not to look at the evidence you'd actually have to rethink everything you think you know.

I think you might be horrified by what a "peer review" consists of for vaccine information from a big pharma company. It wouldn't meet your lofty standards.

I haven't attacked Ivermectin, just said there isn't any data to suggest it works to this point. This actually looks like a good study, decent size, benchmarked appropriately, good results. It's the first I've seen like this, anything else has not passed reviews or has been retracted. It's still not verified, but hopefully it comes to be true.

 

[StevieM]

Those two recent Rogan podcasts with John Abramson and Robert Malone seriously make one question the methods and the reliability of the pharmaceutical industry. If you weren't already questioning them before, that is.

I urge everyone to listen to them. They're not wild conspiracy theorists - both have been vaccinated and support it to some degree at the least (Robert Malone helped develop the technology! To what extent is debatable, but he certainly had a hand in it, so I think he's more than qualified to speak on it) - and they offer very reasonable arguments and balance to the situation. I wouldn't even go as far as suggesting listening to McCullough yet. But I think if you want a balanced viewpoint and you're on the ultra pro vaccine, pharma side, you could do with listening to these two, at the least.

See... this is the problem - if the top scientists in the world can’t agree on the science... how are us mere mortals supposed to know.

The answer, as with everything, will be a bit of both sides.

You made a point earlier about one side getting shut down more than the other - which is s fair point.

However there is also a question of equivalence, which has permeated just about every discussion with even a hint of politics - and unfortunately too many false equivalences get drawn.

I’ve never listened to Joe Rogan.

I’ll give him a go - I recommend you give the Doherty Institute a look too.

He also wrote a book called “The Knowledge Wars”, which may be of interest.

Full disclosure - I haven’t read it.

 

[dantes]

See... this is the problem - if the top scientists in the world can’t agree on the science... how are us mere mortals supposed to know.

The answer, as with everything, will be a bit of both sides.

No my child, have you learned nothing? The scientists who bring you the good news of the vaccines, masks, lockdowns, they are men of faith, you should be able to tell them apart very easily. Listen only to them and them alone, for they work under the grace of our lord's light. These other scientists who engage in heretical talk of ivermectin, herd immunity and such like, they are fallen prophets, cast them into the fires of hell where they belong.