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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Biden was definitely wrong in what he said, but I don't really have much time for him or Trump, especially when they're talking about public health. They're more about point scoring than anything else
 
Biden was definitely wrong in what he said, but I don't really have much time for him or Trump, especially when they're talking about public health. They're more about point scoring than anything else

Politics in general that now, isn't it?

My point being, you can tell there's an agenda when he isn't being fact-checked for something so patently and equally wrong on the opposite side of all those other censures.
 
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Politics in general that now, isn't it?

My point being, you can tell there's an agenda when he isn't being fact-checked for something so patently and equally wrong on the opposite side of all those other censures.

The responses are only pro-Biden or anti-Biden, people are on a particular side and won't budge regardless. I just ignore what he or Trump says as much as possible, its rhetoric. Fauci is worth putting more time into listening to, not saying he's been great, but when you see the context of what he says, he tends to be more correct.
 
The responses are only pro-Biden or anti-Biden, people are on a particular side and won't budge regardless. I just ignore what he or Trump says as much as possible, its rhetoric. Fauci is worth putting more time into listening to, not saying he's been great, but when you see the context of what he says, he tends to be more correct.

I can't trust Fauci after seeing him squirm in front of Rand Paul and the Senate. He just seems so full of shit. Obviously, he has more science and expertise to back up his points, but he seems all over the map, too, changing his stance every couple of months and then claiming the science changed. He also proclaimed to be The Science, himself. I think he's a psychopath who's enjoying the limelight, while also trying to dig himself out of a hole he has a huge hand of putting us all in.
 
Seems I was too optimistic earlier when I said 6 months. There's already a new variant in France. EVERYONE PANIC!!!
 
I can't trust Fauci after seeing him squirm in front of Rand Paul and the Senate. He just seems so full of shit. Obviously, he has more science and expertise to back up his points, but he seems all over the map, too, changing his stance every couple of months and then claiming the science changed. He also proclaimed to be The Science, himself. I think he's a psychopath who's enjoying the limelight, while also trying to dig himself out of a hole he has a huge hand of putting us all in.

Yeah, he is definitely more accurate and more qualified to comment. But he's caught in the political storm too. Egos and agendas. It's a cluster fuck.
 
All of those lack context.


For example the Pfizer quote I think you're talking about was a trial in South Africa where the Beta variant was active at the time, which showed it was 100% effective. Which turned out to be true in the real world too, it's no longer about.

Fauci was talking about the massively reduced risk of transmitting once vaccinated in May last year, just before Delta took off, and he said "effectively".

Things changed a lot with new variants and changing behaviours, just because something isn't true now, doesn't mean it wasn't true when said, especially when you give all the context around it.

Are you a shill or just mental ?
 
Yeah, he is definitely more accurate and more qualified to comment. But he's caught in the political storm too. Egos and agendas. It's a cluster fuck.

It's such a perfect storm coming from all angles that you can only scratch the surface when you try to discuss it from any viewpoint.

With regards to people like Fauci and other public health officials, they're obviously and understandably going to speak from a perspective of caution and worst case scenario. They have to. However, what that does, is ramp up the fear and hysteria in all the other groups. That in turn feeds the media, which likewise will, rightly or wrongly, promote and hype the fear further. The government will do the same. And this is all without even touching upon any sinister underhanded motives any of these parties may have in actually prolonging and benefiting from the pandemic. It really is a perfect storm, and we don't have any mainstream voice available on the other side to balance shit out and calm the situation down. It's just a snowball of panic and fear, and it's our own fault for cultivating such a society over God knows how long.
 
With the vaccine, with mass testing and with the knowledge of how to prevent and treat this virus, I think the pandemic will end in 2021,” Varadkar said.
 
Seems I was too optimistic earlier when I said 6 months. There's already a new variant in France. EVERYONE PANIC!!!

The fourth dose was gifted to mankind by the grace of our lord, now behold the consequence of your heresy and refusing the booster. It's still not too late my child, accept the lord's gift into your body and you shall be saved.
 
The fourth dose was gifted to mankind by the grace of our lord, now behold the consequence of your heresy and refusing the booster. It's still not too late my child, accept the lord's gift into your body and you shall be saved.

Like the MCU movies, I missed the first ones, and now I'm too far behind to ever catch up.
 
Yeah, maybe. I think it's getting close to a stage where too many people need to be coordinated and agreed on this, which just makes it less likely. I think it's much more likely that ivermectin just isn't the answer.

It possibly isn't but I don't think I've seen any major publications release full trial results. I've seen BBC debunk Ivermectin but their "study" on it was essentially run by a couple of students and was extremely light on detail. We have seen loads of people calling it horse medicine and not so many saying that it's actually a medicine that millions of people use every year. I might be cynical but you know the like of Pfizer don't want any drug that can help that's already available and cheap. If their main goal was to help end the pandemic they'd be for the Trips waiver.
 
It possibly isn't but I don't think I've seen any major publications release full trial results. I've seen BBC debunk Ivermectin but their "study" on it was essentially run by a couple of students and was extremely light on detail. We have seen loads of people calling it horse medicine and not so many saying that it's actually a medicine that millions of people use every year. I might be cynical but you know the like of Pfizer don't want any drug that can help that's already available and cheap. If their main goal was to help end the pandemic they'd be for the Trips waiver.

Yeah, hard to disagree.

I've said a few times that I don't trust any major global companies to do what's right, just to do what's in their interests. And I don't think Pzifer have anything to gain from not prolonging this, other than at some point they'll be found out, or someone else will solve for it. I just find it hard to buy that, essentially no medics, have actually said we're doing anything too far from the right thing. There's the occasional unverifiable group, like the Canadian one recently, but there's large holes in what they're saying too. I think it's all a total cluster fuck, and I think it'll be years before we actually know what's going on for sure.

I'd be fairly sure there's truth in a few of the conspiracy theories, but given there's thousands of conflicting ones, that should be a given.
 
Yeah, hard to disagree.

I've said a few times that I don't trust any major global companies to do what's right, just to do what's in their interests. And I don't think Pzifer have anything to gain from not prolonging this, other than at some point they'll be found out, or someone else will solve for it. I just find it hard to buy that, essentially no medics, have actually said we're doing anything too far from the right thing. There's the occasional unverifiable group, like the Canadian one recently, but there's large holes in what they're saying too. I think it's all a total cluster fuck, and I think it'll be years before we actually know what's going on for sure.

I'd be fairly sure there's truth in a few of the conspiracy theories, but given there's thousands of conflicting ones, that should be a given.

Moderna's stock price has fallen foul of our lord's grace. I will redouble my prayers for their salvation.
 
There's strong rumors going around the internet that our Holy Scientist @dantes is a fraud.
That the real Holy Scientist is on Blue Moon, and actively promoting a safer, happier world where everyone - even Jedi warriors - get along and break bread together.
I don't know if it's true but to our Holy Scientist, please give us a sign that you'll lead us to the Promised Land of Science, Love and Equality.
 
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On here ? Definitely Frogfish and I'm guessing the usual suspects like Hansern and Stevie who are just too dumb to do anything but repeat shite from "reliable sources".

In the world, the people who financed and caused the outbreak denied the lab leak theory. And all the scientific journals followed suit by publishing articles supporting their cover up.

As opposed to repeating shite from unrealisable sources?

What “shite” have I posted and what “sources” am I using?

We know you’re using Twitter and fake sites - because you post screenshots from them every day - multiple times.

Of course, you don’t actually follow any of the “advice” you post.
 
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Covid-19: French MPs get death threats over support for vaccine pass

Several French MPs say they have received death threats as they debate a Covid-19 pass that would bar the unvaccinated from much of public life. The government is seeking to pass a law that would require people to show proof of vaccination to access public venues and transport with some exceptions. The legislation is expected to be approved in a vote this week but has angered vaccine opponents. France has one of the highest Covid vaccination rates in the EU. At least 91% of the adult population have been fully jabbed, according to the French government.

On Sunday Agnès Firmin Le Bodo of the centre-right Agir party tweeted an email she received containing graphic threats to kill her over her support for the vaccination pass. "Our democracy is in danger," wrote Ms Firmin Le Bodo, who is also a pharmacist and vaccinates people against Covid. Another MP, Naïma Moutchou of the Horizons party, shared a similar tweet which included a screenshot of an emailed threat. In parliament on Monday, Health Minister Olivier Véran condemned the death threats and the "selfishness" of vaccine opponents.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59860058
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They must be brave and trust in the lord to protect them. But if they should fall, know that their sacrifice will not be in vain my children.
 



Regardless of anyone's views of the jabs I think more evidence is coming out that locking down an entire country was a poor and ill-conceived response. It was only deemed necessary because we always acted too late and then panicked. Realistically the 60+ age group should have been locked down, the 50-60 year old advised to reduced contact and be cautious. Imposing the same restrictions on a 20 year old as a 80 year old was always madness. If the government had acted proactively and given a properly targeted and proportionate response then we would be in a far better position.

I'm far from anti-lockdowns - but they are the most extreme response possible, the hail mary. It's best to avoid getting in those desperate situations to begin with. We were told the virus "doesn't discriminate", etc, etc, which is just a crock of shit. It does, and could have been planned for.

I can't imagine the levels of debt that will be imposed upon future generations as a result and the loss of income from millions of younger people in the present, who already have to contend with soaring costs of living, two recessions, insane house prices, the shit-show that is Brexit, years of Tory rule, and a climate crisis not of their making.
 
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Dear child, just as you have listened to the prophets of epidemiology deliver the good news of the vaccine, it is the lord's divine gift to his children. Be patient, soon your faith will be rewarded and you will be blessed with the equally good news spoken unto you by the prophets of economics, and then you will see that debt is their gift to you and to all the lord's children. Just as you have seen the divinity of the vaccine, I promise you will see the divinity of debt. Have faith my child.
 
Macron's comments in recent days are a bit of an insight.

He says his role is to make life a pain in the arse for the unvaccinated - a strange goal if you ask me.
 
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