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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Of course, I'm lying and everything I've said is made up and completely not true, and I don't even work in the place that I haven't mentioned, but if I did, I'm sure they're just a swell bunch of guys (and gals!) to work for.
 
We're a charity that runs more or less off the back of fundraising, via the usual channels, partnerships with big local firms, and up until this year, National Lottery money. Any events we had planned as part of our forecasted budgeting has just been wiped out for the next two months at least, and given the nature of how we self fund, we only have a short contingency period.

We provide support that is only available in the North West, it's free and crucial to our families who attend. Without it, it has a huge impact on their quality of life, and we are now possibly going to be closed until the Summer. That's a huge loss both ways and one I can see us really struggling to recover from. Our kids couldn't have attended even if the lockdown hadn't happened, as many of them have a poor outlook with regards to future life chances anyway, without contracting something like Corona. It's scary to wonder how it's going to effect them, never mind how much longer our jobs might or might not last.

On top of that our band gigs, and of course that's effected to, so what's essentially a second wage is also hit.

I need a beer.
 
So it begins. Car fires. Looting. And there'll never be a better time for professors to sadly die of coronavirus.
 
Seems there's a two week enforced, military aided lockdown on the horizon anyway, so that will only add more weight to that realistically happening, if it all kicks off.

People are utter gobshites.
 
My employer, many of whom you know I work for, it's literally part of the government, has multiple departments.

My team was recently transferred to the customer services part of a large department.

The day Boris Johnson said anyone who can work from home should do, we were told in the morning that we could work from home & how to do so, & to take our surface pros home.

His announces that in the evening.

The morning, Bex (who works for the same department but not customer service) got a text, stay at home. As did everyone else I know not in our department. I text my boss. He says come in.

So I go in, we all sit round, waiting for the inevitable announcement, & we get an announcement. The head of customer services has decreed that we need to raise money for the exchequer & as such stay in work. Despite us all having a memo saying "All staff who are able to work from home should do so with immediate effect".

An hour later, after staff are going insane, & the union reps are going mad, they say anyone with underlying medical conditions & who lives with anyone who has them will be able to leave, they just need to hang on & wait for specific guidance.

They then get back to us, & say people who have one of approx 9 specific issues can leave but not those who have relatives with issues.

So we sit there, fuming, & find out loads of managers are interpreting that same memo differently, & the words of the actual fucking prime minister, differently.

Roll on to today. Go into work, have a meeting after a couple of hours & get told that we can leave if we feel working from home would protect a vulnerable person, but if we're fit & healthy they'd like us to stay. So a few people go, some (including me) decide to stay for the day then work from home from tomorrow. My manager decided to go.

An hour later we have a conference meeting via Teams & our manager informs us & everyone else he's had an email saying that the last advice was wrong. Anyone who left that day had to return tomorrow & we couldn't work from home the next day.

The meeting ends. We sit in the room & fume. Literally fume. Two minutes later, the manager calls back, & says they've sent another email saying that we can leave if we wish after all, but reiterating that 'the country needs us to do our part'.

Firstly, stop, making us feel guilty. Secondly, stop implying that by working from home we would work any less than in work.

Finally, how the fuck can one simple message get fucked up so much, so many times, & then be changed so often, in such a short time?

This is the very same Government that are leading us through this pandemic, ladies & gentlemen...
 
Seems there's a two week enforced, military aided lockdown on the horizon anyway, so that will only add more weight to that realistically happening, if it all kicks off.

People are utter gobshites.
That will be Marshall Law then..
 
True there are many many other factors involved but still all things being equal .... At least for most on here I assume ?

I had pneumonia last year in Kyrgyzstan, I'm A+ and I'm over 60. I'm toast !
#metoo :|
 
If that live quiz app which recently went belly up had stuck it out for a few months they would have hit the big time.
 
I couldn't work at places like described above.
Sounds like ancient times.

Is the legendary paulcooper4 still kicking about over at the Halewood factory?
 
I still don't understand the whole going into the office thing. I mean maybe meet up with people you want to see once a week and have some lunch or something, but if you don't need to be there then why bother? We got rid of ours ten years ago and thought it might be a bit bad when clients asked where it was, but we just say it's a bit out of town and would you rather go to a hotel for a meeting and maybe have a pint. Ten years and no-one has refused.
 
I still don't understand the whole going into the office thing. I mean maybe meet up with people you want to see once a week and have some lunch or something, but if you don't need to be there then why bother? We got rid of ours ten years ago and thought it might be a bit bad when clients asked where it was, but we just say it's a bit out of town and would you rather go to a hotel for a meeting and maybe have a pint. Ten years and no-one has refused.
The company I work for is very small, there are 6 of us who work together and a few other contractors who the boss deals with. We all work from home and we've only met up in person once, that was before our Christmas dinner. We had a meeting in a place that rents office space by the hour. I didn't know such places existed, the girl at the desk said they're really busy. You can rent anything from just a desk up to conference/meeting rooms. They had coffee and lunch facilities and appaz you get some people coming once or twice a week to meet clients etc. It's a lot more convenient for some people than actually having an office.
 
The company I work for is very small, there are 6 of us who work together and a few other contractors who the boss deals with. We all work from home and we've only met up in person once, that was before our Christmas dinner. We had a meeting in a place that rents office space by the hour. I didn't know such places existed, the girl at the desk said they're really busy. You can rent anything from just a desk up to conference/meeting rooms. They had coffee and lunch facilities and appaz you get some people coming once or twice a week to meet clients etc. It's a lot more convenient for some people than actually having an office.
Regus (huge), Servcorp and the like. Serviced offices. They provide everything you could need including secretarial services, physical address (usually in a great location - good image), meeting rooms with all the tech for great presentations and phone answering/message forwarding. If you want to seem like a large company but are a very small outfit they provide a great service at a price. It might be very expensive per square metre but you only have to lease what you need (e.g tiny 1 person or 2 person 'offices' upwards).
 
Regus (huge), Servcorp and the like. Serviced offices. They provide everything you could need including secretarial services, physical address (usually in a great location - good image), meeting rooms with all the tech for great presentations and phone answering/message forwarding. If you want to seem like a large company but are a very small outfit they provide a great service at a price. It might be very expensive per square metre but you only have to lease what you need (e.g tiny 1 person or 2 person 'offices' upwards).
Yeah, I think it was a Regus we went to.
 
I couldn't work at places like described above.
Sounds like ancient times.

Is the legendary paulcooper4 still kicking about over at the Halewood factory?

I don't know who that is? I've only been here a couple of years
 
Things are starting to get pretty silly here now. Public parks and beaches closed. Restrictions on restaurants and alcohol sales, for some reason it's safer if those stop serving at 6pm.

The parks thing is properly bugging me. A bike ride through my local parks is my daily meditation and poses fuck all risk.
 
I'm guessing they're going to put the UK on a 2wk mandatory lockdown inside a week if the numbers keep going as they are.
 
Things are starting to get pretty silly here now. Public parks and beaches closed. Restrictions on restaurants and alcohol sales, for some reason it's safer if those stop serving at 6pm.

The parks thing is properly bugging me. A bike ride through my local parks is my daily meditation and poses fuck all risk.
Ditto here in Vienna. Brother in law walked through the park (nobody within 100m) and got blasted by a passing police-car using it's loudspeaker to tell him to go home !

I don't get it. The parks are huge and people are jogging, walking and don't want to get close to others ! It may be France where I saw park use / walking / jogging is still permitted. Sensible - not usually word that's applicable to our French friends.
 
National Trust are to make a lot of their venues free to use to allow people to use to walk and take in natures beauty away from home and well all the madness I guess
 
They should have done it two weeks ago. It had a chance of working then

If you hit the brakes right away, then there is a greater chance of them malfunctioning compared to if you press them gently at first before hitting them after a second delay. For all sorts of mechanical reasons. You have to put those probabilities into your model. So when you model the optimum time to hit the brake, it tells you to not panic as your car is hurtling towards the oncoming lorry, you should wait, you wait, wait for it, then you apply the brake after a few seconds.

Literal pandemic modelling logic.
 
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Hit the damn brake.
 
Well guess who was told at 8am this morning to come back into work?!

Fucking seriously, & people wonder why this country is fucked.
 
National Trust are to make a lot of their venues free to use to allow people to use to walk and take in natures beauty away from home and well all the madness I guess
I'm made up with that, it's about the only thing feasible to do with the kids with none to limited risk to any others, so the fact they've waived fees & car parking is brilliant.
 
Well guess who was told at 8am this morning to come back into work?!

Fucking seriously, & people wonder why this country is fucked.

Yours is the most fucked up area of the department. I had to give my details in today as someone who might have to go in to the office as it’s difficult for me to work “flexibly” at home.
 
I'm made up with that, it's about the only thing feasible to do with the kids with none to limited risk to any others, so the fact they've waived fees & car parking is brilliant.

Disagree. It seems like an unproductive waste of time to me. Whilst the world is shut down, we should have these kids at home learning python, mandarin, robotics and everything they can about AI. Then by the time they graduate, we could actually come out of this in better shape than we were before. But if you send the diseased kids skipping around some national park picking flowers and appreciating beauty, then we've lost.
 
Question: why has Southern Europe been hit by the virus first?

Similar viruses are spread in cough droplets but that doesn't explain it.
 
Question: why has Southern Europe been hit by the virus first?

Similar viruses are spread in cough droplets but that doesn't explain it.


The Lombardy outbreak came to light when a 38-year-old Italian tested positive in Codogno, a comune in the province of Lodi. On 14 February, he felt unwell and went to a doctor in Castiglione d'Adda. He was prescribed treatments for influenza.[25] On 16 February, as the man's condition worsened, he went to Codogno Hospital, reporting respiratory problems.[25] Initially there was no suspicion of COVID-19, so no additional precautionary measures were taken, and the virus was able to infect other patients and health workers.[26] On 19 February, the wife of the patient revealed he had met an Italian friend who had returned from China on 21 January, who subsequently tested negative.[25] Later, the patient, his pregnant wife and a friend tested positive.[25] On 20 February, three more cases were confirmed after the patients reported symptoms of pneumonia.[27] Thereafter, extensive screenings and checks were performed on everyone that had possibly been in contact with or near the infected subjects.[28] It has been subsequently reported that the origin of these cases has a possible connection to the first European local transmission that occurred in Munich, Germany, on 19 January 2020, consistent with phylogenetic analysis of viral genome.[29][30][31] The 38-year-old man was asymptomatic for weeks, reportedly led an active social life and potentially interacted with dozens of people before spreading the virus at Codogno Hospital.[25][26] Afterward, he was transferred to Policlinico San Matteo in Pavia,[32] and his wife to Sacco Hospital in Milan.[33][34]


Protezione Civile volunteers carrying out health checks at Guglielmo Marconi Airport
On 21 February, 16 more cases were confirmed – 14 in Lombardy, including the doctor who prescribed treatments to the 38-year-old Codogno man,[25] and two in Veneto. On 22 February, a 77-year-old woman from Casalpusterlengo, who suffered from pneumonia and visited the same emergency room as the 38-year-old from Codogno, died in Lombardy.[35] Including the 78-year-old man who died in Veneto, the number of cases in Italy rose to 79.[5][36] Of the 76 newly discovered cases, 54 were found in Lombardy, including one patient in San Raffaele Hospital in Milan[37] and eight patients in Policlinico San Matteo in Pavia,[38] 17 in Veneto, two in Emilia-Romagna, two in Lazio and one in Piedmont.[39]
 
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