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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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The obnoxious Mail published these but at least they were based on reliable sources :
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30566-3/fulltext#seccestitle150
 
Schools and nurseries in Scotland and Wales will close from the end of the week. A decision is due shortly about England.

That will fuck up a good chunk of the workforce.
 
It's still bullshit designed to scare the shit out of people. If you don't stick demographic information and other lifestyle / BMI shit it means nothing
True there are many many other factors involved but still all things being equal .... At least for most on here I assume ?

I had pneumonia last year in Kyrgyzstan, I'm A+ and I'm over 60. I'm toast !
 
Listen, thanks for posting this it must have been extremely difficult for you.. It kinda highlights how serious this is, I hope your wife and yourself are able to grieve during these uncertain times.. Really sad to hear

I have a daughter who suffers from Asthma and another who has High blood pressure, both are in the at risk category

My eldest with asthma is now working from home, but lives in flat with 2 others, they have all been advised to limit social contact as they could be putting Yasmin (my eldest) at risk.

To make matters worse, my daughter who has high blood pressure now has to self isolate with her carer who is over 70 and has type 2 diabetes.. Her Career rightly originally flagged that my daughter who was going to college could be putting her at risk..

Now my daughter has been identified in the at risk category and sent home from college indefinitely... They have been told to self isolate together, and both told to limit social contact wherever possible..

Makes it extremely difficult to understand how I can both support them, when my gut instinct is to do just that..

Man, all the best to you and your family.

Stay healthy.
 
Was a few pages ago in this thread, at least, but I like the way posters were scoffing about the credibility of figures posted by governments from certain countries... almost as if they're implying the UK government is the beacon of transparency and integrity.

Everyone is probably skewing the facts.
 
On a separate, yet still Corona-related, subject...

Where I work is really outdoing themselves. Productivity is down, understandably, due to staff illness and absences.

What are they doing about that? Taking extra health and safety precautions? Shutting down like many other places in the UK?

Nope. They're making us come in tomorrow and Friday and potentially next week when we were scheduled to be off to make up the numbers.

Two people fell sick today, one of whom has underlying health conditions and is high risk, and whose son has tested positive for the virus. Yet he's been more or less forced to come in because if he stays off he will be disciplined.

I'd be outraged if it wasn't all so predictable. People are going to die, but as always, it's about the bottom line.
 
On a separate, yet still Corona-related, subject...

Where I work is really outdoing themselves. Productivity is down, understandably, due to staff illness and absences.

What are they doing about that? Taking extra health and safety precautions? Shutting down like many other places in the UK?

Nope. They're making us come in tomorrow and Friday and potentially next week when we were scheduled to be off to make up the numbers.

Two people fell sick today, one of whom has underlying health conditions and is high risk, and whose son has tested positive for the virus. Yet he's been more or less forced to come in because if he stays off he will be disciplined.

I'd be outraged if it wasn't all so predictable. People are going to die, but as always, it's about the bottom line.

Just let them know about their obligation to staff health and safety regulations and mention RIDDOR etc

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...loyers-and-businesses-on-coronavirus-covid-19
 
On a separate, yet still Corona-related, subject...

Where I work is really outdoing themselves. Productivity is down, understandably, due to staff illness and absences.

What are they doing about that? Taking extra health and safety precautions? Shutting down like many other places in the UK?

Nope. They're making us come in tomorrow and Friday and potentially next week when we were scheduled to be off to make up the numbers.

Two people fell sick today, one of whom has underlying health conditions and is high risk, and whose son has tested positive for the virus. Yet he's been more or less forced to come in because if he stays off he will be disciplined.

I'd be outraged if it wasn't all so predictable. People are going to die, but as always, it's about the bottom line.

That’s proper shit to hear.
 
It would be a shame if a few anonymous tweets about the company began to appear.

There was an article in the Echo yesterday about them, but it's got even worse today. I can imagine there being another article soon, or at least an employee or two ringing the Echo trying to get another one printed.

It's not hard to guess who I work for, though. Plus, I think I've mentioned it before.

To give you an insight into the mindset of the company, a few months ago, one of the "products" caught fire next to a station housing a certain extremely flammable liquid. The fire alarm went off, the place filled with smoke so we couldn't see, people were choking on the fumes. They wouldn't evacuate us. We had to carry on working.
 
Was a few pages ago in this thread, at least, but I like the way posters were scoffing about the credibility of figures posted by governments from certain countries... almost as if they're implying the UK government is the beacon of transparency and integrity.

Everyone is probably skewing the facts.

Like anyone thinks the UK government has any credibility, particularly on here of all places. This is almost as bad as accusing English born football fans on here of thinking England are going to win every competition they go into. It's bullshit.
 
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On a separate, yet still Corona-related, subject...

Where I work is really outdoing themselves. Productivity is down, understandably, due to staff illness and absences.

What are they doing about that? Taking extra health and safety precautions? Shutting down like many other places in the UK?

Nope. They're making us come in tomorrow and Friday and potentially next week when we were scheduled to be off to make up the numbers.

Two people fell sick today, one of whom has underlying health conditions and is high risk, and whose son has tested positive for the virus. Yet he's been more or less forced to come in because if he stays off he will be disciplined.

I'd be outraged if it wasn't all so predictable. People are going to die, but as always, it's about the bottom line.

What the fuck? Sounds like a Victorian workhouse. Is this even legal?

Horrible bastards.
 
My previous employer was more or less like that, there will be people getting warnings for absence and being docked pay through all of this, guaranteed
 
My previous employer was more or less like that, there will be people getting warnings for absence and being docked pay through all of this, guaranteed

Just reminds me of that current horrific Amazon warehouse ad. Anyone seen that? There's a new UK one after the apparent success of the US version - "We work, We Sweat, We Bust Our Butts...and we're TRANS FRIENDLY" - and apparently it's great. There's cakes!

It's so fucking incredibly chilling that any company has such a wide-spread and awful reputation about its casual warehouse staff - no toilet breaks, ankle monitors, punishing efficiency quotas and dangerous working conditions - that you can actually Google "Amazon Warehouse Horror Stories" and get 11.5m matches, and that they actually have to create and buy advertising for a 30 second ad to dispute such facts.

And as well as the advert, showing gleeful "works makes you free" Amazon workers eulogising about the freedom and respect and fun they have as "Amazon Fulfilment Associates", you can also register to go on a tour!

WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THAT?
 
Like anyone thinks the UK government has any credibility, particularly on here of all places. This is almost as bad as accusing English born football fans on here of thinking England are going to win every competition they go into. It's bullshit.

Yeah, I'd hope that's the case, but there were people sneering about other countries manipulating the facts. Those posters might not have been English, I can't remember, but if they are, they should look closer to home before deriding others
 
Just reminds me of that current horrific Amazon warehouse ad. Anyone seen that? There's a new UK one after the apparent success of the US version - "We work, We Sweat, We Bust Our Butts...and we're TRANS FRIENDLY" - and apparently it's great. There's cakes!

It's so fucking incredibly chilling that any company has such a wide-spread and awful reputation about its casual warehouse staff - no toilet breaks, ankle monitors, punishing efficiency quotas and dangerous working conditions - that you can actually Google "Amazon Warehouse Horror Stories" and get 11.5m matches, and that they actually have to create and buy advertising for a 30 second ad to dispute such facts.

And as well as the advert, showing gleeful "works makes you free" Amazon workers eulogising about the freedom and respect and fun they have as "Amazon Fulfilment Associates", you can also register to go on a tour!

WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THAT?

Besides the name of the company and the ankle monitors, it sounds like our place.

For the last few hours of my shift today, none of us could go to the toilet because my aforementioned group leader went home corona'd up and nobody could cover us.

But yeah, it is mad. Places like this do exist. I can tell an even longer story if anyone cares? Fuck it, I'll tell it.

Our place employs a high percentage of agency staff, of which I am one, and we basically have no rights. If we kick up a fuss, we can be told our assignment is terminated the next day, so the threat of staying in line is always hanging over our heads. We come in despite being sick in fear of being let go.

Anyway, one lad who was agency staff, unfortunately heard that his father had died over in India. He was off as a result, and had to go over to India and sort everything out, and of course, attend the funeral. This took 2 weeks. When he returned, he was disciplined. He was only allowed 5 days.

Anyway, this all rumbled on for a while. Admittedly, he was apparently not the best worker, but still. He came to his boss some time later and asked if he could speak to someone, a counsellor or whatever, as he was struggling with the death of his father. He was told "that service is not for you."

Eventually, having proven to be a "trouble" employee, his placement was ended and he was let go. This month, the company released a high profile video with loads of "celebrities" fronted by Vinnie Jones of all people, talking about the importance of mental health etc in the workplace, providing a phone number to call if you're feeling like you need to speak to someone.

This is all after 2 people committed suicide in recent months due to the treatment they received INSIDE the workplace - one of which actually committed suicide on the premises.

It's all lip service and keeping up appearances to "show" they're following government guidelines, caring about their employees etc on the outside, but wherever and whenever they can make an extra penny's profit, they'll do it.

Same with this Covid shit. It's a massive pain in the arse for them, and they're loathed to have it affect profit margins, so they're doing what they can to have that not be the case, while also trying to maintain their image of corporate responsibility on the outside.

Of course, if I or anyone else, tried to prove this, we'd have no chance, they're following the law. But I can assure you, it's happening.
 
I'm guessing you don't want to name the company (I don't read The Echo so have no idea - their site is an abomination) but what sector do you work in?
 
I'm guessing you don't want to name the company (I don't read The Echo so have no idea - their site is an abomination) but what sector do you work in?

We may, or may not, build vehicles. Maybe. Who knows? I don't know. What? Where am I?
 
That said, my job is alright and quite easy, and I get paid well.

But it's definitely a fucking shit place for a lot of people.
 
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