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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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On the subject of flying and travelling. Its quite insane over here that you can travel to another country and follow the precautions that are set and stay safe. And then when you return home you end up standing in a que with hundreds of other travelers for several hours and without any chance to keep your distance or be safe. All to do a quick Covid test and to see if thats negative.

At this rate its probably a bigger chance of getting sick when returning home, then when you are on your holidays somewhere else in Europe...
 
Hansern said:
On the subject of flying and travelling. Its quite insane over here that you can travel to another country and follow the precautions that are set and stay safe. And then when you return home you end up standing in a que with hundreds of other travelers for several hours and without any chance to keep your distance or be safe. All to do a quick Covid test and to see if thats negative.
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Indeed - had people come over recently and they stood in a massive queue at Heathrow for 2 hours.
 
As far as I know I don't have any restrictions as I've got my vaccination certificate. On my return to Greece I have to fill in some form before I leave and I might get selected for a rapid test and if it's positive I have to go into quarantine.

Could I be fucked with any of this? No.
 
If you think about it using the logic of these psychopathic leaders of big pharma, you don't want to cure this. You want to treat it forever, raking in billions every quarter. An adapted vaccine for that dangerous new variant? Sure. What's that? Immunity could wear off after a few months? Try this amazing new booster shot!

It's like how they used to build cars that lasted decades. Now the things fall apart after 3 years. There's no money in solving an issue.
 
Halmeister said:
If you think about it using the logic of these psychopathic leaders of big pharma, you don't want to cure this. You want to treat it forever, raking in billions every quarter. An adapted vaccine for that dangerous new variant? Sure. What's that? Immunity could wear off after a few months? Try this amazing new booster shot!

It's like how they used to build cars that lasted decades. Now the things fall apart after 3 years. There's no money in solving an issue.
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learning you work for Jaguar and seeing you say this just 2 weeks after I’ve bought a 2018 Jaguar has me worried!
 
Agree re: general concerns about big pharma. This is why independent bodies are required and a large element of trust in how these operate
 
Brizzle said:
learning you work for Jaguar and seeing you say this just 2 weeks after I’ve bought a 2018 Jaguar has me worried!
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Insider info: if a worker scratches your car during the manufacturing process, they just colour it in with a pencil
 
Brizzle said:
what type of pencil? Should come in handy when i scratch it through incompetence
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Black chinagraph for the interior. Not sure about the exterior. They colour it in though, but I was never around that area of the factory long enough to learn
 
But yeah, the scratches are the least of your worries given the state of the retards I've seen fitting engines etc.
 
This shit is confusing, sozza Brizzle suck that young ppl lived their lives via social media (they'd have ducking well done that anyways)
And lots have been like who cares anyways.

But on the other hand mandatory vaccines just makes me a bit nervous.
Boris making anything mandatory on public after his comments on chain gangs and hi Viz.
 
Woland said:
I'm not saying that Pfizer are making new variants but I am saying that if I was Pfizer I would be
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Why you haven’t released a new beer called “Pfizer Vax Ale” I don’t know.
 
The importance for the vaccine is that it reduces (not eliminates) transmission and significantly reduces serious complications. The more person to person transmission, the more opportunity to mutant variants. This is why it is also important for those at low risk to also get vaccinated - bc transmission among them increases the risk for new variants that threaten the efficacy of the vaccine.

Govts have fucked up by loosening restrictions too early or not implementing them early enough, providing an environment for variants to emerge, thus negating the incredible efficacy of the vaccines against v1.0 COVID.

There are nearly zero significant risks with these vaccines with the exception of VITT in AstraZeneca (still exceedingly rare). In the case of younger ppl less at risk of developing COVID symptoms or hospitalization they should receive an mRNA vaccine preferentially. In Canada we've moved away from AZ in most of the country.

While many ppl get COVID without symptoms, the number of people who have died and who have ongoing debilitating symptoms is quite significant. And this is with all the measures that were taken. Imagine if we just ho-hummed it the way we do with flu each year.

The notion that we have to "live with COVID" like we do with cold and flu is defeatist. If we'd had vaccines when these emerged and took strong public health measures, we might not have to deal with them annually. The work done to prevent cases is with the intention of preventing this annual cycle. Might be too late now, hard to say, but I'm not ready to give up.

People have the choice not to get one but can't pretend there aren't consequences to that, including possibly not being able to return to all normal privileges of social life.

Virtually everyone should receive a vaccine. Medical contraindications are exceedingly rare.
 
I thought that the new variants were caused by people who've been ill for months and the virus mutating within the host, rather than the virus just spreading about. Dunno, could be both, but the first couple were down to that.
 
darkstarexodus said:
The importance for the vaccine is that it reduces (not eliminates) transmission and significantly reduces serious complications. The more person to person transmission, the more opportunity to mutant variants. This is why it is also important for those at low risk to also get vaccinated - bc transmission among them increases the risk for new variants that threaten the efficacy of the vaccine.

Govts have fucked up by loosening restrictions too early or not implementing them early enough, providing an environment for variants to emerge, thus negating the incredible efficacy of the vaccines against v1.0 COVID.

There are nearly zero significant risks with these vaccines with the exception of VITT in AstraZeneca (still exceedingly rare). In the case of younger ppl less at risk of developing COVID symptoms or hospitalization they should receive an mRNA vaccine preferentially. In Canada we've moved away from AZ in most of the country.

While many ppl get COVID without symptoms, the number of people who have died and who have ongoing debilitating symptoms is quite significant. And this is with all the measures that were taken. Imagine if we just ho-hummed it the way we do with flu each year.

The notion that we have to "live with COVID" like we do with cold and flu is defeatist. If we'd had vaccines when these emerged and took strong public health measures, we might not have to deal with them annually. The work done to prevent cases is with the intention of preventing this annual cycle. Might be too late now, hard to say, but I'm not ready to give up.

People have the choice not to get one but can't pretend there aren't consequences to that, including possibly not being able to return to all normal privileges of social life.

Virtually everyone should receive a vaccine. Medical contraindications are exceedingly rare.
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^^
Fauci shill
 
darkstarexodus said:
The importance for the vaccine is that it reduces (not eliminates) transmission and significantly reduces serious complications. The more person to person transmission, the more opportunity to mutant variants. This is why it is also important for those at low risk to also get vaccinated - bc transmission among them increases the risk for new variants that threaten the efficacy of the vaccine.

Govts have fucked up by loosening restrictions too early or not implementing them early enough, providing an environment for variants to emerge, thus negating the incredible efficacy of the vaccines against v1.0 COVID.

There are nearly zero significant risks with these vaccines with the exception of VITT in AstraZeneca (still exceedingly rare). In the case of younger ppl less at risk of developing COVID symptoms or hospitalization they should receive an mRNA vaccine preferentially. In Canada we've moved away from AZ in most of the country.

While many ppl get COVID without symptoms, the number of people who have died and who have ongoing debilitating symptoms is quite significant. And this is with all the measures that were taken. Imagine if we just ho-hummed it the way we do with flu each year.

The notion that we have to "live with COVID" like we do with cold and flu is defeatist. If we'd had vaccines when these emerged and took strong public health measures, we might not have to deal with them annually. The work done to prevent cases is with the intention of preventing this annual cycle. Might be too late now, hard to say, but I'm not ready to give up.

People have the choice not to get one but can't pretend there aren't consequences to that, including possibly not being able to return to all normal privileges of social life.

Virtually everyone should receive a vaccine. Medical contraindications are exceedingly rare.
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I'm with you until the second last paragraph. Once there is a certain level of coverage then unvaccinated people should be allowed do anything a vaccinated person can do. Realistically should they not be only endangering themselves and other unvaccinated people?
 
I trust and agree with what DSE has to say there, for the most part. However, what worries me is how the powers that be are using this pandemic to enforce Orwellian and draconian policy for their own corporate, financial and governmental gain. If it was a simple case of trusting the experts in the shared hope of eradicating this virus, then I'd get it done. However, there are other, more sinister motives at play.
 
darkstarexodus said:
The importance for the vaccine is that it reduces (not eliminates) transmission and significantly reduces serious complications. The more person to person transmission, the more opportunity to mutant variants. This is why it is also important for those at low risk to also get vaccinated - bc transmission among them increases the risk for new variants that threaten the efficacy of the vaccine.

Govts have fucked up by loosening restrictions too early or not implementing them early enough, providing an environment for variants to emerge, thus negating the incredible efficacy of the vaccines against v1.0 COVID.

There are nearly zero significant risks with these vaccines with the exception of VITT in AstraZeneca (still exceedingly rare). In the case of younger ppl less at risk of developing COVID symptoms or hospitalization they should receive an mRNA vaccine preferentially. In Canada we've moved away from AZ in most of the country.

While many ppl get COVID without symptoms, the number of people who have died and who have ongoing debilitating symptoms is quite significant. And this is with all the measures that were taken. Imagine if we just ho-hummed it the way we do with flu each year.

The notion that we have to "live with COVID" like we do with cold and flu is defeatist. If we'd had vaccines when these emerged and took strong public health measures, we might not have to deal with them annually. The work done to prevent cases is with the intention of preventing this annual cycle. Might be too late now, hard to say, but I'm not ready to give up.

People have the choice not to get one but can't pretend there aren't consequences to that, including possibly not being able to return to all normal privileges of social life.

Virtually everyone should receive a vaccine. Medical contraindications are exceedingly rare.
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They must have taught biochemistry different since my day, with more maths and more realism, because that's why I'm shitting it and have long since given up. Your delusional faith in the vaccines and that rather interesting take on mutations will be your undoing.
 
Might be a daft question, but could we not be forcing a more dangerous variation of the virus to proliferate if we eradicate the lesser ones?
 
dantes said:
Hhahahaha welcome to the better side. I knew you had it in you.
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Actually - I’m more making a point that I believe I’d trust anything @darkstarexodus says about drugs than anyone else on here.

What I can’t quite remember is whether it’s because he’s a pharmacist or whether he’s just taken all the drugs in humanity.

It might be both.
 
StevieM said:
Actually - I’m more making a point that I believe I’d trust anything @darkstarexodus says about drugs than anyone else on here.

What I can’t quite remember is whether it’s because he’s a pharmacist or whether he’s just taken all the drugs in humanity.

It might be both.
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Oh, how disappointing. Yes he is a pharmacist and most probably been brainwashed by the big pharma propaganda fed into his brain at whatever conferences and trade fairs he attends. Not to mention the profit margins per vaccine he is probably fine dining upon as we type.
 
It’s party because the same link to some CDC report that Ross posted has just appeared on my Facebook feed from a person I know that I could best describe as an “off the charts conspiracy theorist”.

Apparently it’s all Bill Gates fault again.
 
Halmeister said:
Might be a daft question, but could we not be forcing a more dangerous variation of the virus to proliferate if we eradicate the lesser ones?
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A good question. Alas it's just not possible to answer it, there is no method we have invented that could do such a thing, nothing that we know of, who can predict the future? Not even worth thinking about. Whatever will be will be.
 
dantes said:
Oh, how disappointing. Yes he is a pharmacist and most probably been brainwashed by the big pharma propaganda fed into his brain at whatever conferences and trade fairs he attends. Not to mention the profit margins per vaccine he is probably fine dining upon as we type.
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See - I think that’s you value signalling around feelings while covering for globalists that you like making money.

As far as I recall - DSE’s reality is a little different - hence why I’m asking - because I don’t know the details.
 
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