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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Whatever is happening there, and obviously something is (though neither side can be trusted to tell the truth without exaggeration), the population of XJ is 25M. I think we'd notice if there to go missing !

I'll let you know later this year 😛 I'm planning a month's backpacking through XJ.

if you do, don't do it when you're there please ... wait till you leave! 🙂
 
You are, clearly, SCM's equivalent of Dantes when it comes to anything to do with China. And you obviously didn't read the links otherwise you wouldn't still be spouting shite when it comes to population, I suggest you read them.

Whilst I agree with you on the Land grab and there are clearly very unsettling controls of the Uyghurs (though using the highly emotive word 'genocide' obviously isn't even close to accurate).
What word would you consider to be more accurate?
 
Is but a mere implementation of a temporary population adjustment protocol.

Dantes: +130 social credits
 
You are, clearly, SCM's equivalent of Dantes when it comes to anything to do with China. And you obviously didn't read the links otherwise you wouldn't still be spouting shite when it comes to population, I suggest you read them.

Whilst I agree with you on the Land grab and there are clearly very unsettling controls of the Uyghurs (though using the highly emotive word 'genocide' obviously isn't even close to accurate).
Because your internet is monitored by the CCP
 
It's ONE MILLION dollars!!! That's enough to finish the mortgage, put the 2 elder kids in uni and put down on your holiday home in Crete!
Not enough. I want to be more than financially comfortable, I want the help!

Crete is lovely but I'm not sure I would pick it for a holiday home, it's a bit too far from Athens to go by ferry (think it's about 9 hours) and I wouldn't be annoyed flying. Think if I had to pick an island for a holiday home it would be Naxos. Although I reckon I would go for somewhere on the mainland or Evvoia. Evvoia is an island but it has a bridge as it's very close.
 
Not enough. I want to be more than financially comfortable, I want the help!

Crete is lovely but I'm not sure I would pick it for a holiday home, it's a bit too far from Athens to go by ferry (think it's about 9 hours) and I wouldn't be annoyed flying. Think if I had to pick an island for a holiday home it would be Naxos. Although I reckon I would go for somewhere on the mainland or Evvoia. Evvoia is an island but it has a bridge as it's very close.

are the islands cheap vacation wise?
 
are the islands cheap vacation wise?
You can find decent prices as long as you avoid August, especially the weeks either side of the 15th. Those days you'll be competing with Greeks on holidays as well as tourists.
 
You can find decent prices as long as you avoid August, especially the weeks either side of the 15th. Those days you'll be competing with Greeks on holidays as well as tourists.

yah - we're going to rhodes around then, but found a good deal.
still can't believe the family sold the apartments there (grandfather and his siblings)
 
yah - we're going to rhodes around then, but found a good deal.
still can't believe the family sold the apartments there (grandfather and his siblings)
They sold the apartments? Wha?? I still haven't made it to Rhodes, I really want to go and see the old town and Castle.
 
They sold the apartments? Wha?? I still haven't made it to Rhodes, I really want to go and see the old town and Castle.

Yah - the family owned quite a few apartments in La Juderia (great grandfather was a merchant in Turkey).
Sometime in the 80s, they just decided to sell 'em all for peanuts without telling the kids (and the kids would have bought 'em or taken 'em over).
Understood why they let go of it - but still ... sucks.
 
Yah - the family owned quite a few apartments in La Juderia (great grandfather was a merchant in Turkey).
Sometime in the 80s, they just decided to sell 'em all for peanuts without telling the kids (and the kids would have bought 'em or taken 'em over).
Understood why they let go of it - but still ... sucks.
My wife's grandfather worked like a dog and bought land with whatever money he had. People told him that the land on the islands was dirt cheap and he should buy some land there and he would reply with "why would I do that?". Then the whole package tourism industry took off...
 
You are, clearly, SCM's equivalent of Dantes when it comes to anything to do with China. And you obviously didn't read the links otherwise you wouldn't still be spouting shite when it comes to population, I suggest you read them.

Whilst I agree with you on the Land grab and there are clearly very unsettling controls of the Uyghurs (though using the highly emotive word 'genocide' obviously isn't even close to accurate).

I'm gonna try and be civil here.. as much as I can.

What word would you use instead of the highly emotive word of genocide?

For a people whose country was taken over ...not 1600 years ago as you suggested but has a history of struggle within the past 100 years.

For a people who over a million are in a camp.
Reports of rape.
Reports of forced sterilisation
Reports of forced labour

Houses mosques etc razed to the ground.
Children taken from families

Seriously...
What do you want to call it?
 
I'm gonna try and be civil here.. as much as I can.

What word would you use instead of the highly emotive word of genocide?

For a people whose country was taken over ...not 1600 years ago as you suggested but has a history of struggle within the past 100 years.

For a people who over a million are in a camp.
Reports of rape.
Reports of forced sterilisation
Reports of forced labour

Houses mosques etc razed to the ground.
Children taken from families

Seriously...
What do you want to call it?

A holocaust.
 
If anyone is interested the Uyghur tribunal started in London earlier.

Allegations of rape and torture to start off the day, and of course witnesses and people not turning up cos scared of retribution from China.

Not genocide..
Just friendly imprisonment, torture, rape and sterilisation.
 
If anyone is interested the Uyghur tribunal started in London earlier.

Allegations of rape and torture to start off the day, and of course witnesses and people not turning up cos scared of retribution from China.

Not genocide..
Just friendly imprisonment, torture, rape and sterilisation.

The government not going near it with a six foot pole. See no evil hear no evil.
 
I'm gonna try and be civil here.. as much as I can.

What word would you use instead of the highly emotive word of genocide?

For a people whose country was taken over ...not 1600 years ago as you suggested but has a history of struggle within the past 100 years.

For a people who over a million are in a camp.
Reports of rape.
Reports of forced sterilisation
Reports of forced labour

Houses mosques etc razed to the ground.
Children taken from families

Seriously...
What do you want to call it?

Yeah I like Froggy, but I didn't know what to say about that one.
 
Yup.. if true.

But reality is they do.
They already dominate the world.

China have slowly and quietly gone about their business, patient and calm.. becoming wealthy AF, slowly buying assets across the world and America in particular.

Allowing their people to become super rich and then shutting them down. Jack Ma example

And in another 10 years, we won't be talking about the Uyghurs, we hardly talk about Tibet anymore.
But tbh with hundreds of millions of couples having three kids and expanding their population by another 30% they'll be needing to take over more land soon enough.

At least they have cap in fairness, unlike many Muslim nations in that part of the world that just multiply until they have a boy. Take that as you will but it’s fact! Asia has too many people, period!
 
The government not going near it with a six foot pole. See no evil hear no evil.

The govt have had their own conversations..and it's super slow.

Like I said, China have the world by the balls. We should try to decouple as much as possible
 
They sold the apartments? Wha?? I still haven't made it to Rhodes, I really want to go and see the old town and Castle.
Whaaaa? Get yourself to Rhodes while its quieter. Lindos and Rhodes town will be amazing while there are fewer tourists. Along with Kalithea Spa.
 
Its the anniversary of this today :
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I wonder what agent Frogfish calls it
 
The govt have had their own conversations..and it's super slow.

Like I said, China have the world by the balls. We should try to decouple as much as possible

Sadly I think that (1) ain't happening now, or (2) only happening with the rise of an equally anti-islamic indian super power.

Either way you're fucked. But if it's any consolation the rest of the world still has a bit of hope and faith to cling to in india.
 
It’s hard to say no to China of countries keep borrowing their money without any formal way of repayment. Surely nothing is free and countries that borrow heavily from
South east Asia and Africa know what’s coming...
 
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