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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Fully agree on not accepting restrictions just to protect the anti-vaxers.

Issue is though, under 50s and plenty over 50 have only had first jab, and that doesn't give much protection against the Indian variant. About 38% of the UK have had both doses.
That's a bit outdated Jon. My daughter has just been given hers, she's 33. They are progressing really fast now. Isn't it around 60% of all adults vaccinated in the UK?
 
Could also spend some more billions fixing test and trace before we see the next variant from somewhere else as the constant fallback to surge testing seems to indicate. 35 billion is not enough surely 😉

On the next wave front, I can see various public services being warned but the numbers in general for infections and deaths seem pretty stable over the last weeks despite further unlocking which is positive.
Yeah I've been watching the UK numbers and although infections have almost doubled due to the loosening of restrictions, the hospitalisation rate has hardly increased and the death rate has so far remained very low, zero a couple of days ago.

The vaccines seem to be working as advertised, you can still get infected however serious symptoms are exceedingly rare once vaccinated.
 
The Australian vaccine rollout is a disaster - I think we’re at 2% or something.

I’ve only just become eligible and can’t get through to book a appointment- tried numerous times over different days and after going through countless menus and automated information message, it kindly tells you they’re too busy to answer the phone and hangs up.

We’re also running out of Pfizer.

On the plus side - apart from Melbourne and our lockdown now being extended for another week - things are pretty much back to normal and the economy is getting back to pre-COVID levels.

Pretty much every outbreak can be traced back to breaches in quarantine from people arriving from overseas - hence why I think it’s absolute nuts the UK is allowing overseas travel at this point in time.

People don’t seem to understand that we’re destined to repeat the cycle of lockdowns until we can get the vast majority of people vaccinated - there is a real lack of urgency and desire for people to get vaccinated here - don’t quite understand it.
 
Josh Rogin suggested it was because China said don't start discussing this shit or we'll stop sending you masks... amongst other things.
The fact that everyone is/was incompetent
The fact Trump and Pompeo were talking about it

I mean, if true, it shows again how China will dominate our world ... fucking joyous
 
No..

c.75% first dose
c.40% both doses
You're mixing up the figures for 'all adults' and 'all population'.

Using all adults as a measure is just Government PR. Kids transmit the virus.

58% of the population have had 1 dose.
38% of the population have had both doses.
 
I mean, if true, it shows again how China will dominate our world ... fucking joyous

Yup.. if true.

But reality is they do.
They already dominate the world.

China have slowly and quietly gone about their business, patient and calm.. becoming wealthy AF, slowly buying assets across the world and America in particular.

Allowing their people to become super rich and then shutting them down. Jack Ma example

And in another 10 years, we won't be talking about the Uyghurs, we hardly talk about Tibet anymore.
But tbh with hundreds of millions of couples having three kids and expanding their population by another 30% they'll be needing to take over more land soon enough.
 
Yup.. if true.

But reality is they do.
They already dominate the world.

China have slowly and quietly gone about their business, patient and calm.. becoming wealthy AF, slowly buying assets across the world and America in particular.

Allowing their people to become super rich and then shutting them down. Jack Ma example

And in another 10 years, we won't be talking about the Uyghurs, we hardly talk about Tibet anymore.
But tbh with hundreds of millions of couples having three kids and expanding their population by another 30% they'll be needing to take over more land soon enough.

Did you see John Cena (lol, you can't see him, but) recently apologised? For the utterly racist and terrible evil crime of accidently calling Taiwan a..... country.



 
Did you see John Cena (lol, you can't see him, but) recently apologised? For the utterly racist and terrible evil crime of accidently calling Taiwan a..... country.





Yeah I saw that...
Well I heard about it, I didn't see the apology..
He actually went all out and did it in mandarin.
China have the rest of the world by the balls and is sllllowly twisting them.
 
Yup.. if true.

But reality is they do.
They already dominate the world.

China have slowly and quietly gone about their business, patient and calm.. becoming wealthy AF, slowly buying assets across the world and America in particular.

Allowing their people to become super rich and then shutting them down. Jack Ma example

And in another 10 years, we won't be talking about the Uyghurs, we hardly talk about Tibet anymore.
But tbh with hundreds of millions of couples having three kids and expanding their population by another 30% they'll be needing to take over more land soon enough.
Yet again you demonstrate your ignorance of all things Chinese.

The majority of people in China don't want three children or even two children and many are following the world-wide trend of not even one child. The Govt. in China, as in many other countries e.g. Japan, are trying to find ways to incentivise child-bearing.

According to accepted forecasts world population will top out around 2050 however by the end of the century the population of China will fall below 1B, Japan's population will halve, as will that of Saudi Arabia, Spain and most other countries.

EDIT. Perchance just came across these :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57067180

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53409521
 
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Yet again you demonstrate your ignorance of all things Chinese.

The majority of people in China don't want three children or even two children and many are following the world-wide trend of not even one child. The Govt. in China, as in many other countries e.g. Japan, are trying to find ways to incentivise child-bearing.

According to accepted forecasts world population will top out around 2050 however by the end of the century the population of China will fall below 1B, Japan's population will halve, as will that of Saudi Arabia, Spain and most other countries.

EDIT. Perchance just came across these :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57067180

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53409521

China are trying to encourage child bearing while sterilising Uyghur ladies.

I'm not claiming to know all things Chinese.
I do know they are committing genocide while the world sits and watches.
I know they are expanding their land quickly and again quietly.

China are working to support infrastructure projects in a bundle of countries, id be a loon of I thought they were doing it and then not politically pressuring the countries they are building things for.

I might not know about how many kids ppl in China want, but Its a decent guess to suggest the population will increase if allowed to have more.. though looking back 30% is a pretty stupid number to guess at.

I am aware of the info re Japan and Spain in particular but both already have an aging population and growth has been hit in recent years. China has on the other hand grown.
 
Can a country encourage people to have more kids? I have two and that's plenty, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of another kid, no matter what incentives I was offered.

The only way I would have another kid would be if I was paid 100k a year and someone paid for a full time cleaner, a chef, and two or three nannies. Actually, four nannies.
 
China are trying to encourage child bearing while sterilising Uyghur ladies.

I'm not claiming to know all things Chinese.
I do know they are committing genocide while the world sits and watches.
I know they are expanding their land quickly and again quietly.

China are working to support infrastructure projects in a bundle of countries, id be a loon of I thought they were doing it and then not politically pressuring the countries they are building things for.

I might not know about how many kids ppl in China want, but Its a decent guess to suggest the population will increase if allowed to have more.. though looking back 30% is a pretty stupid number to guess at.

I am aware of the info re Japan and Spain in particular but both already have an aging population and growth has been hit in recent years. China has on the other hand grown.

Where exactly? Or through the entities which JohN Cena apologized for?

I thought Japan had a negative growth rate (as do the Italians) - so Froggie's stats there make sense. Europe in general is shrinking.
 
Where exactly? Or through the entities which JohN Cena apologized for?

I thought Japan had a negative growth rate (as do the Italians) - so Froggie's stats there make sense. Europe in general is shrinking.

Turkistan is the main one I was referring to.
Souther Mongolia also
 
Plus Biden has agreed a limit on the amount Americans are allowed to invest in 59 Chinese companies.

This is an extension of the initial agreement by the greatest president ever Mr Trump
 
China are trying to encourage child bearing while sterilising Uyghur ladies.

I'm not claiming to know all things Chinese.
I do know they are committing genocide while the world sits and watches.
I know they are expanding their land quickly and again quietly.

China are working to support infrastructure projects in a bundle of countries, id be a loon of I thought they were doing it and then not politically pressuring the countries they are building things for.

I might not know about how many kids ppl in China want, but Its a decent guess to suggest the population will increase if allowed to have more.. though looking back 30% is a pretty stupid number to guess at.

I am aware of the info re Japan and Spain in particular but both already have an aging population and growth has been hit in recent years. China has on the other hand grown.
You are, clearly, SCM's equivalent of Dantes when it comes to anything to do with China. And you obviously didn't read the links otherwise you wouldn't still be spouting shite when it comes to population, I suggest you read them.

Whilst I agree with you on the Land grab and there are clearly very unsettling controls of the Uyghurs (though using the highly emotive word 'genocide' obviously isn't even close to accurate).
 
Turkistan is the main one I was referring to.
Souther Mongolia also
Jesus Christ.

Inner Mongolia (Southern Mongolia) has been a semi-autonomous province of China for over a hundred years. Of course after Mongolia invaded, controlled and ruled virtually all of China, if you want to go back that far ! There are actually numerous ethnic minorities living there speaking Chinese, Russian and various Mongolian dialects. The only current conflict with the Chinese Central Govt. is regarding the teaching of Mandarin in schools.
I spent 8 days there a few years ago photographing birds in two of it's wildest regions. It's taiga and tundra and more so the vast majority consists of rolling mountains (I've got lots of photos and a video or two) where human life is non-existent.

Turkistan : East Turkistan was annexed (colonised) by China over 1,600 years ago. Yes the people there are of many ethnicities, equivalent say to Nigeria (Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo) when the British threw down borders regardless of existing tribal lands, which was effectively the cause of the Biafran civil war many years later.

I wonder how you are going to revise British History and whether you were so vocal when Russia controlled West Turkistan prior to the breakup of the USSR?


When you spoke about land expansion I thought you were referring to the building of islands in the South China Sea.
 
Yes ginger.
I sent you 1,000,000 USD to have another kid - once you procreate, its yours
I was talking to Froggy about the genocide, I hadn't noticed your comment.

1 million isn't enough, need the chef, cleaner and four nannies.
 
I was talking to Froggy about the genocide, I hadn't noticed your comment.

1 million isn't enough, need the chef, cleaner and four nannies.

It's ONE MILLION dollars!!! That's enough to finish the mortgage, put the 2 elder kids in uni and put down on your holiday home in Crete!
 
Are you sure about that?
Whatever is happening there, and obviously something is (though neither side can be trusted to tell the truth without exaggeration), the population of XJ is 25M. I think we'd notice if they to go missing !

I'll let you know later this year 😛 I'm planning a month's backpacking through XJ.
 
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