Stay safe dmishra. It does seem surreal seeing the images. It seems like there plenty of oxygen being sold at inflated prices though. The army need to do more.
Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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In what way anything you post on this forum is useful, ever? It's a waste of time. I used to think you were a quirky weirdo who at least minimally brought something very different to this site, but alas you were just a mental nutjob, windup metchant or a dick, or all three depending on the situation.
The pace of vaccination declining has nothing to do with vaccine hesitancy or what the US govt is doing. India has a good degree of vaccine acceptance and there are enough people willing to register and in waiting list to get vaccinated...but can't get vaccinated because there is simply not enough supply of vaccines.
90% of Indians who have been vaccinated took Covishield (Astra Zeneca vaccine manufactured by Serum Institute of India under license.) The remaining 10% took Covaxin. They had a head start with the stockpile because in July last year SII took a bet (on their own as a company) to manufacture astra zenaca vaccine well before the test results were fully known. So in spite of their obligation to WHO Covax program, they were still able to give the Govt of India a large enough stockpile to have a head start.
But India grossly overestimated it's vaccine producing capacity, and would have done well to stockpile from more sources ( Pfizer, Sputnik, etc) as they were some of the first vaccines to get global health regulator approvals...but they didn't. Probably because they thought they won't have a second wave and the vaccination for above 45 age group will tide them over with herd immunity and never really had a plan to vaccinate enmasse and cover at least 70% of the population with vaccination as is required. Govt is now reacting to manage oxygen, vaccine, anti viral drugs supply and get them into reasonable orderly state... hopefully it's in time for dmishra's friends and relatives. I'm a non resident Indian, but my parents are there and they have got the first dose of Covishield...I hope that when they go in for the second dose there is enough supply.
The Govt of India were caught unprepared and unplanned and were a bit reckless with decision making...it has got not much to do with what Trump or Biden did or didn't do, now matter how much you try to twist someone's expression of pain to fit your agenda.
The pace of vaccination declining has nothing to do with vaccine hesitancy or what the US govt is doing. India has a good degree of vaccine acceptance and there are enough people willing to register and in waiting list to get vaccinated...but can't get vaccinated because there is simply not enough supply of vaccines.
90% of Indians who have been vaccinated took Covishield (Astra Zeneca vaccine manufactured by Serum Institute of India under license.) The remaining 10% took Covaxin. They had a head start with the stockpile because in July last year SII took a bet (on their own as a company) to manufacture astra zenaca vaccine well before the test results were fully known. So in spite of their obligation to WHO Covax program, they were still able to give the Govt of India a large enough stockpile to have a head start.
But India grossly overestimated it's vaccine producing capacity, and would have done well to stockpile from more sources ( Pfizer, Sputnik, etc) as they were some of the first vaccines to get global health regulator approvals...but they didn't. Probably because they thought they won't have a second wave and the vaccination for above 45 age group will tide them over with herd immunity and never really had a plan to vaccinate enmasse and cover at least 70% of the population with vaccination as is required. Govt is now reacting to manage oxygen, vaccine, anti viral drugs supply and get them into reasonable orderly state... hopefully it's in time for dmishra's friends and relatives. I'm a non resident Indian, but my parents are there and they have got the first dose of Covishield...I hope that when they go in for the second dose there is enough supply.
The Govt of India were caught unprepared and unplanned and were a bit reckless with decision making...it has got not much to do with what Trump or Biden did or didn't do, now matter how much you try to twist someone's expression of pain to fit your agenda.
Fucking hell mate. I'm sure every one of us here is hoping you and yours all come through this. I'm not religious but may your God be with you.
"(3) The corrupted brainless scientists who tried to deny the blood clots, then got proven wrong, and duly lost the trust of billions of people."
The article you posted is over three months old. There was no issue with blood cots denials then as it had not happened. There was an initial hesitancy with vaccines as at that time India had declared victory over COVID at all levels. So the mood was why take an unnecessary shot. I am also a non-resident Indian and have a lot of friends and family living in India. In our neighborhood, at that time, a lot of folks were planning not to take the vaccine as the COVID-19 pandemic was "over". But once the cases started piling up, practically everyone has taken the shot. Now we have an issue of not enough supply. I am not trying to dispute the first part of your sentence but the causation is incorrect.
It is not as bad it is in Delhi, Mumbai, and UP, but cases are piling up in South India also, where my family is predominantly based. Too many people in the network of friends and family are infected now. But there is still capacity in hospitals and Oxygen supplies are not as critical as in the North. In places like Kerala, they had actually planned for this and increased Oxygen production capacity over the last year which has helped matters. But if cases continue to grow at this rate, then there could be a problem there also.
Then replace "blood clots" with "vaccine is perfectly safe even though we haven't tested that yet". (1) If you believed it was safe, then you would take it just for the sake of it in case there is a second wave. (2) If you believed it was unsafe, then you would take it just because the risk is still less than the alternative of a second wave, (3) If you believed it was unsafe, and you believed the risk of the alternative was being overstated by untrustworthy scientists, then you'd have a coinflip on whether you'd take it or not. By lying to get (1), even though the truth is (2), the scientists ensured that we have (3). It's not complicated. The blood clots is just the latest lie that affirms (3). The only way to get back to (2) is now for people to witness lots of death to scare them into getting vaccinated. That is what has happened, that's why the uptake is increasing, and you want to celebrate it. I blamed the scientists, because absolving them of the deaths is not how I roll.
Had the uptake been higher at the start of the year, the surge would have been dampened. It doesn't matter if the uptake of vaccine is high now, it doesn't matter if the supply is high, you can't overcome exponential growth, so the surge will play out on the viral mutant's terms. Then there will be another window in which to get the vaccination rate high enough to prevent a further surge. The blood clot fiasco will hinder that window.
Or alternatively, pretend maths isn't a thing and believe whatever your feelings tell you.
You do realize the irony of this statement, right? A majority of your posts fall into this category.
At which point in my post have I ever hinted that this is something which should be celebrated?
Yes, I also blamed the scientists. This is what I have stated in the previous post. But you incorrectly used an article dated January 2021.
Kinjulian said India vastly overestimated it's production capacity. And that it had nothing to do with Biden.
(1) That is not the reason for the surge. (2) It is due to Biden who just yesterday refused to lift the export ban.
So the article from January was in reply to him, and his denial of hesitancy, and misattributed blame on production. That is the reason for the surge now.
Had you not cut off my post before the bit where I refer to earlier in the year, you would not be confused.
(1) That is not the reason for the surge. (2) It is due to Biden who just yesterday refused to lift the export ban.
So the article from January was in reply to him, and his denial of hesitancy, and misattributed blame on production. That is the reason for the surge now.
Had you not cut off my post before the bit where I refer to earlier in the year, you would not be confused.
You still lack the mental capacity for me to waste my time discussing things with you, much less the stock market.
Blood clots.
Venous thromboembolism:
AstraZeneca Vax. 1.9 per million
Women taking hormonal contraception. 600 per million.
Women taking drospirenone-containing
oral contraceptive. 1000 per million
Clotting disorders after taking paracetamol. 1000 per million
https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/VACCINE-EFFECTS/xegvbglkrpq/
Venous thromboembolism:
AstraZeneca Vax. 1.9 per million
Women taking hormonal contraception. 600 per million.
Women taking drospirenone-containing
oral contraceptive. 1000 per million
Clotting disorders after taking paracetamol. 1000 per million
https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/VACCINE-EFFECTS/xegvbglkrpq/
Export ban has been lifted
You're merely offering a simpleton's way of admitting that you were wrong again.
That's Sanchez 10, Dantes 0.
What a pathetic, laughable clown you consistently show yourself to be.
EDIT: At least I've found your one redeeming quality. Consistency.
No. I just don't want to waste time because you're either too stupid to process what I tell you, or you just blindly ignore it and resort to insults. Go and do some reading on relative strength if you actually want to value your stock.
Sanchez 11, Dantes 0.
Yeah cool. I'll stick to my own assessment of your stupidity.
He deserves as much thanks as FSG deciding to cancel the super league. Alas, he'll probably be portrayed as a hero on cnn.
You had attributed vaccine hesitancy in January in India to blood clots, which is incorrect as blood clots were not an issue then. There definitely was vaccine hesitancy in January but that soon disappeared.
The reasons for the surge are numerous. India - at all levels of government, public - declared victory and pretty much went back to normal. The sluggishness in initial vaccine deployment is a reflection of that. The election rallies are another reflection of that. I don't think the surges in Delhi and Mumbai happened due to rallies as there were no rallies there. But you cannot expect the public to follow social distancing and masking when pretty much every party is holding rallies with 100000 people in Bengal and Tamil Nadu. The lack of preparation when warning signs were being posted by hospitals in Maharashtra is another reflection of that. Among all the states in India, Kerala is the only one that decided to increase its oxygen production capacity in 2020 is another indication of how poor the planning was. The fact that we have an underfunded, understaffed, and underequipped medical system also does not help. We spend less than 2% of our GDP on health which I believe is poor by any comparison. There is also the fact that social distancing is not viable for hundreds of millions of people due to their living conditions and the type of job they do. I think we could list at least 5-10 more reasons for it. But I will stop here. There is an amalgamation of reasons leading to this clusterf* of a situation, but as with every other issue, people see what they want to see and trumpet that.
I don't think Biden invoking the Defence Production Act is a reason for this surge as that happened in Feb first week and the seeds for this surge had been laid by then. As kingjulian rightly pointed out we did overestimate our capacity initially. But it has definitely affected the ability to produce vaccines at this point. Denying that is false. There is an incredible demand for vaccines now and if we had the raw materials in March and April, we could have ramped up production and inoculated a decent number of people. It might not have prevented the surge but definitely would have helped in managing and controlling future surges.
I am not sure if the leaders in the western world understand that running this virus amock in places like India, Brazil is increasing the chances of dangerous virus mutations. Already there is talk of a triple mutant in West Bengal. Cutting of raw materials to the world's largest vaccine manufacturer might not have caused this surge but definitely was not the smartest thing to do. It also was not the most compassionate thing to do.
Why don't you quote where I said that
This is exactly my position, apart from production capacity not being due to the defence production act. It is, or else the serum institute's ceo is a bare faced liar because that came from his own lips a few months ago when I pointed out the same in this thread. You're getting confused. I quoted (3) about blood clots because it's the current and most recent lie by scientist, so I'm referring to an example to bash scientists. Then I said (3) is the biggest problem, referring to the lack of faith in science, not to the blood clots. If you read on to when I said had more vaccines been taken earlier in the year then the surge wouldn't be as bad, you would have followed this. Instead of trying to follow my train of thought, I rather than think you wanted to pick out a flaw in order to add to the narrative that I'm wrong.
The fact is if we rewind a few months, my criticism of Biden and scientists would have prevented these deaths. You're (well perhaps not you, but virtually everyone else here) their woke blind support of them caused these deaths. That's the consequences of not processing information correctly. Some fucking guilt would not be out of line, it's the least I'd expect. Likewise for the border crisis. And the homicide rate. And so on and so forth.
Greek?
What weather fried yours?
Yeah, fuck off back to Greece!
Hey Dantes are you still saying Trump isn't responsible for many many deaths in the USA with his ridiculous stance on virtually everything CV-19 related?
In the US, 53% of all adults have received at least one dose and 36% are fully vaccinated. The rate of infections and deaths have fallen by about 75% since January peaks, and much of the US has already started to reopen.
In the US, 53% of all adults have received at least one dose and 36% are fully vaccinated. The rate of infections and deaths have fallen by about 75% since January peaks, and much of the US has already started to reopen.
No, I'm saying you get from "ridiculous stance" to "many many covid deaths" based on nothing. These are just words with nothing behind them. You're not capable of filling in the intervening chain of cause and effect, so you'll never have any idea if your opinion is correct, nor will you ever be able to quantify how many deaths were caused, nor will you be able to predict the deaths that may be caused in future by other causes. You'll just be wrong half the time and right half the time, like a coin. I'm also saying it's impossible to do anything about that without you getting mortally offended by an apparent maga racist, so it is what it is. If there's something else difficult you need to understand that you aren't emotional about, then ask me about that.
Many people on here have picked apart Trump's total ineptitude from Day 1, reprising that timeline yet again, as has been done many times in this thread, isn't going to change your mind on anything. You're just waffling on as a smokescreen to cover your ass.
Denying a chain of cause and effect (initiated by Trump) and stating that it isn't possible to conclude an actual number (duh) doesn't negate the fact that Trump is ultimately responsible for many avoidable deaths.