Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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That's exactly what we were trying to do.
None but essential travel means exactly that. Do not travel across the country to a second home. Period.
If you had the 'rona it was do not leave the house. Regardless of whether you were showing symptoms or not.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse.
It's simple. Restrict movement & it's easy to enforce when people should only be travelling for essential reasons.
It also stops the chance that an asymptomatic carrier will spread it.
As for rtas, when the virus was at its peak it would have massively affected them cos the average rta on a motorway needs 7 fully trained paramedics. Ambulances were travelling with just one fully trained paramedic & one fire fighter with basic training who would drive cos they were so overstretched.
That's not even taking into account the affect it would have on the hospital.
Now to take this further, when it's a nice day, hundreds or thousands of people travel to wales or the lakes cos there's no restriction on travel. You have one rta, four people get symptoms of CV-19, & two people have accidents whilst walking. All of these are reasonable to expect using normal statistics & I've downplayed them (there's usually a lot more rtas on bank holiday weekends on every stretch of motorway).
They would all need medical treatment & some would need isolation, on top of the already overstretched situation, in an area set up to deal with a small rural community, but nothing more.
Like I said I couldn't give a toss what Cummings has been doing.
But if it's not hurting anyone?
I just think you should be able to go on a drive as long as at the end of it you're not congregating.
The number of people who want to do that is probably tiny, so the effect on accidents would be tiny as well.
My response was in regards to this comment quoted by you, not specifically against Cummings.
We're not at the point of trying to isolate the virus to certain areas.
The problem is that people like to drive to beauty spots, and with a population of 60 something million in the UK it means that people end up congregating anyway in the beauty spots or wherever.
Today’s guidance “Do the fuck what you want just as long as it is instinct”.
I would like to do that occasionally but I can see and respect why that is not allowed. While I would and most likely @peterhague would follow guidelines strictly, a lot of folks in the general population will not. Bathroom breaks, filling gas, stopping at lookout points - geographic isolation of hotspots would be very difficult.
The guy who saw him having a day out at the castle took the time to note down the car licence plate, which upon checking turns out to be cummings' car. Well the source of that absolutely false allegation now makes a bit more sense, seems this retired teacher saw a thief who looks like cummings that had stolen his car and then returned it on the same day without his knowledge.
He's not wrong though. Many marginal voters have just witnessed Boris making the rules up to suit his pals.
It's clear in black and white.
- do not travel to second homes if you or a member of your household has COVID 19.
Clear, concise, simple.
Boris has just used his get out of jail free card. But every press conference is going to be about Cummings.
He even tried to use a few deflection stories. Shops opening June 1st, secondary school exam students June 15th. But here we all are still talking about Cummings.
He’s even worse than May!
This is utter BS by the way. I have no idea why this notion persists. Probably 6CM hearsay that has become urban myth. We actually locked down on the same day as the much vaunted Germany and 3 days before NZ. Also no more than a week later than most other countries in Europe (2 weeks later than Italy where it really kicked off) and earlier than many around the world. Not to even mention those Scandinavian countries that didn't lockdown at all !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_responses_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic
One gets the impression that Cummings has plenty of critics or outright opponents even within government, certainly within the party. Surely this is bound to weaken his position in any internal manoeuvrings which might be going on. I can't help feeling his days may be numbered even if he didn't get the boot today.
It wasn't really a lock down though, it was a confused mess.
I had initially thought that he would just stay on unofficially but it does look like a lot of the mood is against him.
Tiny ? Did you not see the crowds on the beaches and in parks ?
Not sure what that all means...
Wasn’t the teachers original complaint that he recognized Cummings anyway? If a 30 mile journey then should be on CCTV somewhere especially at this day and age and with the lack of traffic on roads, make things easier to validate the complaint if true I guess.
UK were one of the last to have any form of recommendations or lockdown: https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-52103747?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=15903464151111&referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s&share=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52103747
Edit: In Europe at least, only Belarus and Moldova were later
The tories will be fine. Cummings just needs to find a fridge to hide in and wait for this all to blow over.
Even on the BBC's charts you have 10 countries that don't have any national lockdown whatsoever ! And another 7-8 that were either later than the UK or at the same time (inc. NL and Germany) - are you sure you are not looking at it upside down ? Anything before a total lockdown was a waste of time because no-one took any notice, anywhere.