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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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dantes said:
I was referring to his lies, when he is tweeting or giving press briefings he's saying whatever he thinks will get him more votes or will satisfy his own ego. That's totally fine. It's funny too, as in the comedy value. That is very different to the evil malicious lies told by other politicians, whose full-time job is to lie because in reality everything they actually do is to line their own pockets and those of their donors. In case you didn't notice, Big D's pockets are not in need of lining.
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Ok I get it.

When Trump lies he’s being funny, ironic, just a nice guy - when other politicians lie - they’re evil.

What about when other politicians tell the truth - and call out Trump for his ironic, amusing meanderings - what are they - fake news?

You wang on about how great a job Trump is doing - yet gdp, unemployment, etc - all following the same trend as they did under Obama- as usual Trump is surfing along on the work of others.

Now he has a challenge - a real problem to deal with - one that can’t be tweeted away, and to the surprise of absolutely no-one he’s making a pigs arse of it.

Actually - fuck it - whey should I give to fresh hairy fucks - I live no-where near America. Australia’s PM, Scott Morrison, is a right-wing conservative - he’s cut from the same cloth as Trump & Boris- to his credit, though, unlike those other muppets, he’s proven that fuckwits can actually do a good job when they leave their bullshit rhetoric behind.

Something Trump knows nothing about.
 
manwithnoname said:
I see Frog Xi Ping is parroting Chinese Communist propaganda still

Many surprisings!

How they must love useful idiots like him
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Are you referring to Frogfish’s long post where he sourced reports from those well known Chinese propaganda outlets, Axios, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc.

Or are you bored and firing up the low level racism again - because you’ve done that and I’d imagine we’re all a bit tired of it now.

It wasn’t particularly funny the first time round.
 
dantes said:
You mean his businesses are doing well, because he brought investment back into the US (rather than into increasing the profit margins of multinational corporations like his predecessors), as well as making it easier for US companies to compete in foreign markets (rather than just using them for cheap labour like his predecessors). Sound economic policy. But how dare the orange man make money fair and square through capitalism! That, well that would mean anyone can do the same, event the little poor people, we can't be having that, no siree, impeach him!!
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He's corrupt as fuck.
 
StevieM said:
Ok I get it.

When Trump lies he’s being funny, ironic, just a nice guy - when other politicians lie - they’re evil.

What about when other politicians tell the truth - and call out Trump for his ironic, amusing meanderings - what are they - fake news?

You wang on about how great a job Trump is doing - yet gdp, unemployment, etc - all following the same trend as they did under Obama- as usual Trump is surfing along on the work of others.

Now he has a challenge - a real problem to deal with - one that can’t be tweeted away, and to the surprise of absolutely no-one he’s making a pigs arse of it.

Actually - fuck it - whey should I give to fresh hairy fucks - I live no-where near America. Australia’s PM, Scott Morrison, is a right-wing conservative - he’s cut from the same cloth as Trump & Boris- to his credit, though, unlike those other muppets, he’s proven that fuckwits can actually do a good job when they leave their bullshit rhetoric behind.

Something Trump knows nothing about.
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Those other politicians should join a debating club. Oh wait, they have, it's called government. GDP was trending up before the pandemic. Unemployment is misleading, it was only going down under Obama because huge swathes of boomers are retiring and not enough millennials are around to replace them (the primary driver behind the last couple of recessions). A better measure is the labour force participation rate (the ratio of the population in work over the total working age population). Notice when that figure started picking up...


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But do continue with your Obama is great narrative. I'm sure the fake news are more reliable than the data. Well done to Australia for doing a better job than Trump. I'm not oblivious to the fact Big D isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, but he's handled things to the best of his ability, it's hardly his fault someone ate a pangolin. I judge him by the graph above, not a totally fucked up situation which was not of his doing.
 
The smart ones of his population are total capitalists and the dumb ones are happy to defend their constitutional rights with AR-15's. Right now Big D has them at home telling them not to work, not to go out, not to gamble, no sports, no drink, what to do, it's the worst most precarious job in the world. Is it any wonder he exaggerates the slightest glimmer of a cure with questionable science? Frankly the fact he has held out this long and avoided a dystopian sequel to the purge coming to pass is amazing.
 
It's odd in the United States right now. State by state differences have always been important in the us, even in more centralized modern times, but I've never lived through a period where it's very important to listen to what your governor is saying on a daily basis , but it's almost irrelevant what the president is saying. That's where we are at right now. It's even more important to me what neighboring governors are saying rather than the president.
 
Looks like one of the things they're looking at here when they start easing restrictions is not doing it for old people. I know it could cause uproar, but it does make sense, they're at far more risk, the less people old people come into contact with, the better. I think they need to split the daily figures more clearly to show hospital deaths, care home deaths, and combined. I presume hospital deaths are on a steady downward trend now.
 
Halmeister said:
I just assume it's a bit of a long-running front he's putting on, like me with the negativity and the curse etc.

Except mine isn't a front and it's totally real.
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Perhaps. Or like when someone has been swindled but they refuse to see it until they've given away their life savings.
 
Athens said:
Perhaps. Or like when someone has been swindled but they refuse to see it until they've given away their life savings.
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The "Big D" and worshipping is obviously in humour. If he died tomorrow in a plane crash, I'd feel nothing. My love for him is just a mental construct for ease of communication. Not dissimilar to a bot. However, if Boris died tomorrow in a car crash, I'd feel genuinely elated. The hatred for that son of a bitch is real.

The way I see it is a dark room. A machine in the middle with a couple of buttons. One button gives dantes money, whilst the other button steals the money. Big D is prancing about in the room, groping women, racially abusing people, undermining the free press, etc, etc, then every few hours he presses the give dantes money button, then goes back to his whoring ways, a while later, gives dantes money again, he's got this down to a tee. All that matters is the button he pushes that effects the amount of money that goes to business and consumers. He pushes the right button. Obama, Boris, Macron, are standing their smiling, empathising, kissing babies, being friends with everyone, I don't give a shit, nothing to do with me, then they walk up to the machine, and press the steal my money button. Then they mash that button like a street fighter 2 arcade console. Utter cunts. Then because they fucked the machine button up so badly, a third button saying potentially kill dantes appears. Up steps Boris, furiously pressing away at it. If you can imagine that room, and that machine, then you pretty much understand my views.
 
The only thing that matters is which of the two buttons you press, by virtue of your decisions. Everything else is fake news. Fake news is literally there to convince you that the steal your money button is a good thing. That you should even cheer when it gets pressed.
 
So... (sorry Judge Jules)... you ARE a sociopath that feels no empathy to fellow man/woman/lizard/alien/AI.

Alright, since it’s almost May the fourth... and it’s you.... just this one time....

I still feel the good in you... search your feelings...
 
dantes said:
The only thing that matters is which of the two buttons you press, by virtue of your decisions. Everything else is fake news. Fake news is literally there to convince you that the steal your money button is a good thing. That you should even cheer when it gets pressed.
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The only difference between a government stealing your money and a private enterprise - is better marketing on the part of the private enterprise - because it’s shit you don’t need bundled up to make it seem like you do.
 
Athens said:
Trump turns down 400k a year so he appears decent while raking in a lot more through corruption.
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I've no doubt some charity is receiving lots of generous donations from foreign countries that Trump is friendly with, much like the Clinton Foundation did while they had positions of power.
 
dantes said:
I was referring to his lies, when he is tweeting or giving press briefings he's saying whatever he thinks will get him more votes or will satisfy his own ego. That's totally fine. It's funny too, as in the comedy value. That is very different to the evil malicious lies told by other politicians, whose full-time job is to lie because in reality everything they actually do is to line their own pockets and those of their donors. In case you didn't notice, Big D's pockets are not in need of lining.
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If you hadn't noticed everything the Big C does is to line his and his cohorts pockets. And to hell with global warming, animal protection, those living on the breadline (and below) etc. etc. No wonder you like him. He's all about the money.

And a President lying, war-mongering, threatening and tweeting attacks on everybody under The Lying Rag plus more shit than you could throw at a wall. I'll go along with the popular notion .. worst President in US history.
 
StevieM said:
Are you referring to Frogfish’s long post where he sourced reports from those well known Chinese propaganda outlets, Axios, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc.

Or are you bored and firing up the low level racism again - because you’ve done that and I’d imagine we’re all a bit tired of it now.

It wasn’t particularly funny the first time round.
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When he's been taken to task on here - which has been far too frequently for his comfort recently - he goes and hides elsewhere for a few days. Typical racist, a coward at heart.
Have you ever seen those guys in the pub that laugh loud and heartily at their own jokes whilst everyone else give sheepish grins and look down at their beer ? Yep, that's him.

By the way most of those quotes were taken from the BBC, The Guardian and Rolling Stone (they had a well written piece on Trump).
 
StevieM said:
The only difference between a government stealing your money and a private enterprise - is better marketing on the part of the private enterprise - because it’s shit you don’t need bundled up to make it seem like you do.
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Doesn't matter. Each dollar note being spent by people is a vote to change the economy for the better, by the free choice of each consumer they elect superior goods and services. Each dollar note spent by government is the complete opposite. Arguing that consumers make wrong choices is as dangerous as arguing that voters elect wrong governments so we should curtail democracy.
 
I mean for fucks sake, if healthcare workers could 'vote' for PPE with their own money they'd all pay woland a visit. Then through free market forces there'll be more woland's popping up out of the ground the following day. Instead you let government make that spending choice for you, and to everyone's surprise you end up with defective cheap shit, whilst the scumbag minister who made that spending choice on behalf of the people ended up with a brown envelope so he doesn't give a fuck.
 
Athens said:
Trump turns down 400k a year so he appears decent while raking in a lot more through corruption.
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400k was peanuts to how he managed to massively increase the family fortune by disregarding the USA's anti-nepotism laws. Off-loading the management of his company to his sons was nothing but media appeasement.

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Eric Trump and his older brother, Donald Trump Jr., run the Trump Organization, which conducts business — and takes in tens of millions of dollars annually — around the globe and is still owned by the president. The company is forging ahead with projects in Ireland, India, Indonesia and Uruguay, and is licensing the Trump name in such turbulent areas as Turkey and the Philippines.

Their sister Ivanka is a senior advisor to the president. She kept her international fashion business going for 18 months after she was given a loosely defined White House portfolio that includes interacting with heads of state and working with domestic and international corporate chiefs on economic programs.

On the same day Trump and his daughter dined with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago in Florida in April 2017, China awarded her three preliminary trademark approvals for jewelry, handbags and spa services. In all, she has obtained more than a dozen Chinese trademarks since entering the White House, ensuring her access to the world’s second-largest economy if she goes back into business.

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June 2019

Unpaid presidential advisers Ivanka Trump and husband Jared Kushner earned between $82 million and $135.1 million last year in outside income, newly released financial disclosures reveal.
The couple claimed combined assets worth between $181 million and $755 million. The disclosures used by the US Office of Government Ethics (OGE) list assets and obligations only in broad ranges.

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USA : Disappearing anti-nepotism laws.
When news of Jared and Ivanka’s White House employment broke, observers noted the hirings appeared to be clear violations of federal anti-nepotism laws. Kushner, the heir to a mid-Atlantic real estate empire, had no experience that would qualify him for the many tasks to which his father-in-law would assign him: solving the opioid crisis, handling Middle East peace negotiations, modernizing the federal government, and reforming America’s criminal justice system.

On Inauguration Day, however, the Department of Justice released an opinion concluding that the statute does not apply to White House staff, allowing Kushner’s employment to go forward. When intelligence officials held up his application for a top-secret security clearance—a delay due in part, the New York Times reported, to concerns about Kushner’s foreign business interests—his place in the administration, theoretically, was in jeopardy. His father-in-law stepped in, though, overruling the officials and ordering then-chief of staff John Kelly to issue Kushner a clearance anyway.


Ivanka's résumé was similarly thin for someone taking on a senior West Wing position—a fashion designer, Trump Organization executive, and sometimes-judge on The Apprentice. She also experienced delays in her attempts to obtain a security clearance, and she was also the beneficiary of some timely presidential intervention: According to CNN, Trump pressured both Kelly and then White House counsel Don McGahn to make decisions on Ivanka's clearance "so it did not appear as if he was tainting the process to favor his family." When Kelly and McGahn refused, Trump went ahead and approved his daughter's clearance himself.
Weeks before the CNN story broke, Ivanka told ABC News that she and her husband had "absolutely not" received special treatment from her father during the approval process. "The president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. Zero," she said.
 
Delusional fake news. If you see the labour force participation graph I posted, that trend has changed precisely because Big D has gone around the world demanding countries open up their markets for the US. His daughter's trademarks are nothing more than proof he did his job. Access to the Chinese market isn't exclusive to his daughter, it benefits america, it makes america great again.

Before "access to china" was just a fake cliche you'd say to increase the valuation of your company. china. china. china. Each time you say china in your annual report $$$. In reality there was never a market there to compete in, and you know it. All they used china for was cheap labour, exporting jobs from america to asia, and importing the products back to be purchased on debt. It has gone on for decades. It's wrecked the western world's economies, and pumped up corporate profit margins. What Big D has done is nothing but right, and good for the people. But corruption, blah blah wah wah wah. Whatever.
 
Trump is a wealthy man, but he's not running a multinational corporation, he's closer in size to a small business. He understands the damage clinton's globalist trade policies have done to the economy, and whether he has taken office and is changing that purely to benefit his own business, or whether he actually has an altruistic concern for his fellow citizens, it makes zero difference. Like I said, only thing that matters is the button he pushes.
 
Actually he should take a leaf out of the premier league footballers' book, by claiming his $400,000, then the $200,000 of tax revenue he'd end up paying would go toward healthcare provision for the poor. More tax is better.
 
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