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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Old (couple of weeks) but still interesting :

Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believed — but had not yet proved — to be true.

A briefing on the preliminary results, marked for official use only and obtained by Yahoo News, offers hope that summertime may offer conditions less hospitable for the virus, though experts caution it will by no means eliminate, or even necessarily decrease, new cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. The results, however, do add an important piece of knowledge that the White House’s science advisers have been seeking as they scramble to respond to the spreading pandemic.

The study found that the risk of “transmission from surfaces outdoors is lower during daylight” and under higher temperature and humidity conditions. “Sunlight destroys the virus quickly,” reads the briefing.
While that may provide some good news about the outlook for outdoor activities, the Department of Homeland Security briefing on the results cautions that enclosed areas with low humidity, such as airplane cabins, “may require additional care to minimize risk of transmission.”

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Great.

I predict that Trump will shortly start talking about sun-ray guns and zapping the virus - maybe even sunlight bombs.
 
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...breaking-restrictions-meet-married-lover.html

Imperial scientist Neil Ferguson whose advice led to lockdown being introduced QUITS government role after 'breaking the restrictions to meet his married lover'

  • Professor Neil Ferguson, 51, previously warned UK could see 500,000 deaths if it didn't implement lockdown
  • His advice, through a report he helped produce at Imperial College, is thought to have led to the lockdown
  • Prof Ferguson has been a vocal supporter of lockdown, continually telling the public to follow the restrictions
  • However, he has now admitted he allowed his married lover to travel across London to visit him at least twice
  • Antonia Staats, 38, lives with her husband, in his 30s, and two children in a £1.9 million house in south London

Prof Ferguson said today: 'I accept I made an error of judgment and took the wrong course of action. I have therefore stepped back from my involvement in Sage [the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies]. 'I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus, and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms. 'I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic. The Government guidance is unequivocal, and is there to protect all of us.'

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Hahahha the fucking herd immunity galactically retarded model making cunt. Why doesn't it surprise me his mistress is a socialist piece of scum. Just like him. And when I contradict these fucking cunts about herd immunity, or about masks, or anything, don't ever question me again. All the academics, in all the universities in all the world can only dream of having my genius.
 
[article]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...breaking-restrictions-meet-married-lover.html

Imperial scientist Neil Ferguson whose advice led to lockdown being introduced QUITS government role after 'breaking the restrictions to meet his married lover'

  • Professor Neil Ferguson, 51, previously warned UK could see 500,000 deaths if it didn't implement lockdown
  • His advice, through a report he helped produce at Imperial College, is thought to have led to the lockdown
  • Prof Ferguson has been a vocal supporter of lockdown, continually telling the public to follow the restrictions
  • However, he has now admitted he allowed his married lover to travel across London to visit him at least twice
  • Antonia Staats, 38, lives with her husband, in his 30s, and two children in a £1.9 million house in south London

Prof Ferguson said today: 'I accept I made an error of judgment and took the wrong course of action. I have therefore stepped back from my involvement in Sage [the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies]. 'I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus, and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms. 'I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic. The Government guidance is unequivocal, and is there to protect all of us.'

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Hahahha the fucking herd immunity galactically retarded model making cunt. Why doesn't it surprise me his mistress is a socialist piece of scum. Just like him. And when I contradict these fucking cunts about herd immunity, or about masks, or anything, don't ever question me again. All the academics, in all the universities in all the world can only dream of having my genius.

Yeah, but he got laid though.
 
Looks like the contact tracing app is a complete pile of shit.

What a surprise.
So that 250m paid to a close relative of someone on the Sage board, whose ceo happens to have the surname Cummings, without any due diligence or tender was a waste of cash?

Shock fucking horror.
 
Isn't this why they were using them UV lamps on public transport in China months ago?
Tbf I think they were covering their bases. They used disinfectant sprayers, those bleach bombs, & uv lamps on indoor spaces too.

What any sane nation would be doing.
 
Tbf I think they were covering their bases. They used disinfectant sprayers, those bleach bombs, & uv lamps on indoor spaces too.

What any sane nation would be doing.
What? Surely singing happy Birthday twice while washing your hands is enough? Durrrr!
 
[article]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...breaking-restrictions-meet-married-lover.html

Imperial scientist Neil Ferguson whose advice led to lockdown being introduced QUITS government role after 'breaking the restrictions to meet his married lover'

  • Professor Neil Ferguson, 51, previously warned UK could see 500,000 deaths if it didn't implement lockdown
  • His advice, through a report he helped produce at Imperial College, is thought to have led to the lockdown
  • Prof Ferguson has been a vocal supporter of lockdown, continually telling the public to follow the restrictions
  • However, he has now admitted he allowed his married lover to travel across London to visit him at least twice
  • Antonia Staats, 38, lives with her husband, in his 30s, and two children in a £1.9 million house in south London

Prof Ferguson said today: 'I accept I made an error of judgment and took the wrong course of action. I have therefore stepped back from my involvement in Sage [the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies]. 'I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus, and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms. 'I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic. The Government guidance is unequivocal, and is there to protect all of us.'

28041666-8289921-Ms_Staats_38_who_lives_with_her_husband_and_their_children_in_an-a-23_1588704954664.jpg


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Hahahha the fucking herd immunity galactically retarded model making cunt. Why doesn't it surprise me his mistress is a socialist piece of scum. Just like him. And when I contradict these fucking cunts about herd immunity, or about masks, or anything, don't ever question me again. All the academics, in all the universities in all the world can only dream of having my genius.


Except - he was the one arguing for lockdown - not herd immunity. Also what was it that you used to determine they were both socialist scum - did the £1.9m house give it away?

Still... I can see why he was aching for a visit..
 
Except - he was the one arguing for lockdown - not herd immunity. Also what was it that you used to determine they were both socialist scum - did the £1.9m house give it away?

Still... I can see why he was aching for a visit..

Maybe when he was flapping his gums to the fake news. When he was taking government funds to model the pandemic, he used the grant to pay for sex, then put together a key stage 2 model predicting half a million dead. That model is what he used to advise the government that a lockdown is needed to mitigate the deaths BUT it has to timed properly, if you implement it too soon then people will go out again before sufficient herd immunity has developed. This was this thick hijo de puta's expert opinion.

That is why Boris did fuck all for weeks telling everyone to wash their fucking hands. Because of this cunts model. So yes, he did advise herd immunity. But the lying fucker won't point that out to the fake news. Instead he wants to be known as prof lockdown.
 
Except - he was the one arguing for lockdown - not herd immunity. Also what was it that you used to determine they were both socialist scum - did the £1.9m house give it away?

Still... I can see why he was aching for a visit..

Herd Immunity is the ultimate goal according to every single piece of scientific and medical research I've read.

The route to get there is where people differ. It seems to be acknowledged there will be further waves of this to come until we get to herd immunity stage.

The question is do you want to kill more people getting there quickly. Or get there slowly via a series of lockdowns which minimises loss of life.
 
Herd Immunity is the ultimate goal according to every single piece of scientific and medical research I've read.

The route to get there is where people differ. It seems to be acknowledged there will be further waves of this to come until we get to herd immunity stage.

The question is do you want to kill more people getting there quickly. Or get there slowly via a series of lockdowns which minimises loss of life.

They really needed someone who works in advertising to soften that though.
I mean, fucking hell, "herd immunity"? Really?

It conjures up images of bovine acceptance, slaughterhouses, weak stragglers, natural selection and low IQs.
 
They really needed someone who works in advertising to soften that though.
I mean, fucking hell, "herd immunity"? Really?

It conjures up images of bovine acceptance, slaughterhouses, weak stragglers, natural selection and low IQs.

Perfect for the UK.
 
Herd Immunity is the ultimate goal according to every single piece of scientific and medical research I've read.

The route to get there is where people differ. It seems to be acknowledged there will be further waves of this to come until we get to herd immunity stage.

The question is do you want to kill more people getting there quickly. Or get there slowly via a series of lockdowns which minimises loss of life.

I think the bit I struggle with is the concept of killing people, or letting more people die, to achieve herd immunity quicker and the reasons why people might argue that this is a means to an end.

It isn’t or shouldn’t really be a discussion.
 
I think the bit I struggle with is the concept of killing people, or letting more people die, to achieve herd immunity quicker and the reasons why people might argue that this is a means to an end.

It isn’t or shouldn’t really be a discussion.

And if we get past that conceptual difficulty, there is the fact that the Spanish Flu lasted only 1 year and killed 20 - 50 million people before 'herd immunity' kicked, which seems to be "quick solution" we are talking about. But hey, lie and let die eh?
 
You've posited the discussion as lockdown v. Herd immunity.

That's not the discussion, herd immunity is the only solution. The discussion is between how to balance the public health and the economy while getting to herd immunity.

I'm on the public health side of things but there will become a point where simply having half the country lying idle (half the workforce in Ireland is on a Covid emergency payment), becomes a public health issue too.
 
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