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Just been the supermarket, with the intent to spend £100..
I put £122 of groceries in my trolley, gave the cashier £73 & told them the other £49 is in the post.
Apparently, the Tory Government will accept this as sufficient & all the UK right wing media will pat me on the back for the achievement
I put £122 of groceries in my trolley, gave the cashier £73 & told them the other £49 is in the post.
Apparently, the Tory Government will accept this as sufficient & all the UK right wing media will pat me on the back for the achievement
Mike, some of us aren’t from the UK so you need to give some context to these kind of posts. I’ve no idea what you’re on about.
The health secretary, Hancock, is a cocksucker that miscounted PPE to inflate figures, the cocksucker who invented a shipment of PPE to avoid looking a tool and then depserately brought in some cheap crap from turkey, the cocksucker who downgraded the threat level of the virus before issuing the PPE so as to avoid being liable for deaths as a result of the inappropriate PPE. That cock. Nick Hancock.
His latest attempt to further his political ambitions was his weird claim of 100,000 tests a day by the end of April. Fucking arbitrary but whatever. No fucking interest in the tests being used to save lives, the aim, the rationale, nope, he just wants to claim he achieved it. Obviously being an incompetent cock, he didn't achieve it. So he decided to count test kits that were posted out to people as part of the figure. So he wasted a colossal amount of time of a colossal number of people, not to save lives, but to frank a bunch of parcels and have them posted out in time for his daily briefing,
Mike appears to be applying the cocksucking arithmetic to his shopping bill.
His name might be Matt. Not sure. It's definitely Hancock. I think your reference to Mike altered my neurons to erroneously connect Mike and Nick, due to the k. The degradation of my vast cognitive abilities is sad to witness. Alas I have another decade or so before anyone even gets close to touching me.
Man, I have to say, I agree with lots of this. I always thought golf was for complete wankers, that it was a 'gentrified sport', but actually, as Woland is suggesting, there's loads of working class folks who play, just to get together and have a few beers at the 19th, and the land they're these municipal and roll up courses would often be completely shit land if there wan't a golf course on it.
Working class or middle class? (And I realise those terms may be used slightly different over there versus here. Canada has an obsession with the "middle class" and pretty much everyone thinks they belong to it.) I would argue few truly working class can afford golfing, even at relatively cheap municipal courses.
I actually personally dont mind golf itself. I'm terrible at it but it's a fun day out. Just not within urban limits, and certainly not on prime land, as it is taking land away from people who truly do not have the means to pursue costly recreational activities.
Out in the sticks on what used to be a bog? Have at it.
Firstly : WTF do you keep talking about Boris? No-one gives a shit. I'm not a supporter and don't give a monkey's what he got right or wrong in comparison when the discussion is regarding Trump.
Now the Meat & Potatoes.
You are right - the decisions are all that matter so here they are. Trump gets his right ?! Only a rabid Trumpist could state that without sarcasm, it's moronic to claim he's got virtually anything right - he's stumbled from one idiotic claim and action (or inaction) to another.
His handling of the CV-19 outbreak has been an unmitigated disaster from the very start, a plethora of ignorant, egotistical bravado, ignoring his medical advisors in the name of protecting the mighty dollar and engorging his persona. In fact those believing a country's financial performance is of prime importance, over the health of the planet and the people, have brains as perverse as their dear leader.
It doesn't matter how much Dantes squirms even he can't deny the blatant lies and idiocy of the following (which is all on public record), it is a litany of unrivalled mismanagement. I do have sympathy with you though - what it must be like trying to defend him ... and then he gives us yet another WTF head-in-hands moment.
TRUMP TIMELINE (this really is worth skimming just for the comedy value).
2017: The Trump administration ignores multiple briefings from the Obama administration on pandemic preparedness. It also cut a DHS program aimed at responding to a pandemic. Politico also reported that the Trump administration declined to use a nearly 70-page pandemic playbook that the NSC's health unit put together under the Obama administration.
2018: The White House disbands the NSC's pandemic response team; two top officials depart the administration; and the administration starts slashing public health funding.
October 2019: The Trump administration declines to renew funding for a pandemic early warning system. PREDICT, a program created under the US Agency for International Development (USAID), worked with 60 different foreign laboratories, including the lab in Wuhan, China that identified the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
November-December 2019: Military intelligence unit begins compiling reports about a contagion spreading in China, and circulates the information to government officials. U.S. intelligence officials began to issue warnings about a disease now known as the novel coronavirus as soon as late November 2019, ABC News reported based on four sources who were briefed on the matter.
8 January
CDC issues alert
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issues an alert advising that it “is closely monitoring a reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology (PUE) with possible epidemiologic links to a large wholesale fish and live animal market in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China”.
18 January
Trump receives briefing
The health secretary, Alex Azar, calls Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida and briefs him on the coronavirus threat, but “Trump spent much of the conversation wanting to talk about vaping”, the AP reported.
21 January
First confirmed US case
A man in his 30s who had traveled to China is hospitalized in Everett, Washington, near Seattle. He tests positive for Covid–19.
22 January
Trump: ‘We have it totally under control’
While attending the Davos conference in Switzerland, Trump makes his first public comment about coronavirus. “We have it totally under control,” he tells the US cable channel CNBC. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
27 January
White House aide raises alarm
Joe Grogan, the head of the White House domestic policy council, tells the acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, and others in a meeting that the fight against coronavirus would dominate public life for months and “the administration needed to take the virus seriously or it could cost the president his re-election”, according to a Washington Post report.
29 January
Aide warns of ‘full-blown Covid-19 pandemic’
Economic adviser Peter Navarro warns the national security council in a memo that coronavirus could kill half a million Americans and deliver a $5.7tn hit to the economy, Axios reports.
30 January
Azar warns Trump again
As the World Health Organization declares a global health emergency, Azar, the health secretary, again warns Trump about the looming threat. Taking Azar’s call aboard Air Force One en route to a campaign rally, Trump dismisses him as “alarmist”, the New York Times reported.
31 January
US declares ‘public health emergency’
Azar declares a public health emergency. Trump announces a ban on entry to the US for foreign nationals who had recently visited China.
January and February
Intelligence warnings
US intelligence agencies file classified reports warning about global destabilization from a coronavirus pandemic, according to a Washington Post report.
5 February
‘They aren’t taking this seriously’
After a coronavirus briefing with White House officials, senators express concern that the administration is downplaying the threat. “No request for ANY emergency funding,” notes Democrat Chris Murphy of Connecticut.
February 10
Trump downplays threat to U.S.: “The virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in.”
Trump White House unveils 2021 budget request, including an $85 million cut (13 percent) for the CDC’s Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases program, and a $25 million cut (3 percent) to its Public Health Preparedness and Response.
Seattle Flu Study appeals to CDC for permission to test existing flu swabs for coronavirus. Request gets tangled in CDC and FDA red tape.
February 14
Trump touts poll numbers: “And 61 percent of the voters approve of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus… Now everyone is saying we did a good job.”
19 February
‘When we get into April…’
Addressing a group of governors, Trump predicts the virus will disappear. “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus.”
21 February
Taskforce concludes social distancing needed
Following a mock exercise modeling pandemic response, the White House coronavirus taskforce concludes that aggressive social distancing would be necessary, according to a New York Times report.
23 February 23
Small towns in Italy placed under quarantine as that nation’s outbreak becomes clear.
Second Navarro memo to the NSC flags “There is an increasing probability of a full-blown Covid-19 pandemic that could infect as many as 100 million Americans, with a loss of life of as many as 1-2 million souls,” Navarro, the economics adviser, writes in a memo obtained by Axios.
24 February
Trump responds with a Tweet : The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me! Trump seeks $1.25 billion in coronavirus response funding.
25 February
Association of Public Health Laboratories warns FDA that the U.S. is “now many weeks into the response with still no diagnostic or surveillance test available outside of C.D.C. for the vast majority of our member laboratories.”
In letter to Congress, Redfield brags: “CDC’s aggressive response enables us to identify potential cases early and make sure that they are properly handled.”
Coronavirus Task Force reportedly agrees to present Trump a social-distancing mitigation strategy. Trump is traveling in India, delaying plan.
25 February
‘I have not heard anything other’
In a CDC telebriefing, Nancy Messonnier the director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, says: “Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in this country” and “disruption to everyday life may be severe. But these are things that people need to start thinking about now.”
At a news conference in New Delhi, Trump says: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are – in all cases, I have not heard anything other.”
On the way back from India, Trump reportedly called Azar and complained that Messonnier was scaring the stock market.
TWEET : CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world. It was opposed by the Dems, “too soon”, but turned out to be the correct decision. No matter how well we do, however, the.....
25 February
Trump’s Director of the National Economic Council Larry Kudlow: “We have contained this. I won’t say ‘airtight,’ but pretty close to airtight.”
Trump campaign spokesperson Kayleigh McEnany tells FoxNews: “We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here… and isn’t it refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama.” (McEnany will soon be hired as White House spokesperson.)
26 February
‘Fake News’
“The infection seems to have gone down over the last two days,” Trump says at a White House news conference. “We’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time.”
TWEET : Low Ratings Fake News MSDNC (Comcast) & @CNN are doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. Likewise their incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action. USA in great shape!
26 February
CDC’s Messonnier, out of step with current White House messaging, attempts to level with public: “We expect we will see community spread in this country. It’s not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness.” Warns of school closures, “missed work and loss of income” and that “disruption to everyday life may be severe.”
Trump reportedly calls Azar, enraged, complaining Messonnier was unnecessarily scaring the markets. Plans to brief Trump on need for social distancing measures scrapped. More that two weeks will be lost before federal government recommends distancing measures.
At press conference, Trump announces he’s ousted Azar as head of Coronavirus Task Force: “I’m going to be putting our Vice President, Mike Pence, in charge.” Trump downplays seriousness of COVID-19, “This is a flu. This is like a flu.” Adds: “We have a total of 15 [diagnosed] people, and they’re in a process of recovering… In a couple of days we’re going to be down to close to zero. We’re going down, not up. We’re going substantially down.”
27 February
Seemingly in reaction to Messonnier’s truth telling, all coronavirus messaging now steered through Pence’s office.
Republican Senator Richard Burr tells a private audience in Washington: “There’s one thing that I can tell you about this: It is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything that we have seen in recent history. It is probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic.”
Trump: “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28
White House chief of staff Mulvaney tells attendees of CPAC — the conservative conference — where the coronavirus was spreading: “The reason you’re seeing so much attention to it today is that they think this is what’s going to bring down the president. That’s what this is all about.” Mulvaney insists U.S. is on top of outbreak. “This is something we know how to deal with. We are the best country in the world prepared to do this. We have been preparing for this for years. We know how to handle this…. We’re ahead of the curve already.”
Azar: “Thanks to the President’s historically aggressive containment efforts… everyday Americans don’t need to be worried.”
Trump: “We’ve done a great job. The press won’t give us credit for it.”
29 February
First confirmed US death
The US marks its first confirmed coronavirus death, a man in his 50s near Seattle.
Almost six weeks after the first case of coronavirus was confirmed, the Food and Drug Administration allows laboratories and hospitals to conduct their own Covid-19 tests to speed up the process.
4 March
Trump in appearance on Hannity: “We have hundreds of thousands of people who get better just by sitting around and even going to work. Some of them go to work, but they get better.” Muses on death rate: “I think the 3.4 percent number is really a false number. Now this is just my hunch, but based on a lot of conversations … personally, I’d say the number is way under 1 percent.”
Pence makes wild claim of testing availability: “We’ll have over a million tests in the field today.” One million tests will not be completed until the end of the month.
5 March Fauci laments closure of pandemic response team in White House: “We worked very well with that office. It would be nice if the office were still there.”
6 March
Trump visits the CDC laboratories and calls the pandemic “an unforeseen problem”.
“What a problem,” he says. “Came out of nowhere.”
The stock market begins to plunge in earnest, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average shedding more than 20% in next two weeks.
6 March
Trump lies: “As of right now anybody who needs a test [can get one] and the tests are all perfect. Like the letter was perfect.” Trump admits he wants to keep infection numbers low, advises against unloading a cruise ship with sick passengers off the coast of California: “I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship. That wasn’t our fault.” Trump praises his own understanding of the science: “I really get it. People here are surprised that I understand it…. Maybe I have natural ability.”
8 March
South Korea and the United States each identified their first coronavirus case on the same day; South Korea has tested 189,236, the United States 1,707.
9 March
Flu comparison
Trump : So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!
9 March
‘4m tests by the end of the week’
Former Trump homeland security adviser Tom Bossert publishes an op-ed: “It’s now or never for the US if it hopes to keep coronavirus from burning out of control.”
In an evening news conference, White House officials say the United States will have tested 1 million people that week and thereafter perform 4m tests per week. “We’ve been moving progressively to bring that test closer and closer and closer to the patient,” Azar says.
The number was false by multiple orders of magnitude. Through 12 March, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had completed 4,000 tests – not 4m.
10 March
‘When people need a test, they can get a test’
“When people need a test, they can get a test,” Trump says at a White House briefing. “When the professionals need a test, when they need tests for people, they can get the test. It’s gone really well.”
12 March
A ‘million tests out now’
Dr Anthony Fauci tells Congress that the United States does not have sufficient testing. “The system is not really geared to what we need right now,” he says. “That is a failing. Let’s admit it.”
But Trump says at a White House briefing there are a “million tests out now” and “if you go to the right agency, if you go to the right area, you get the test”.
13 March
‘I don’t take responsibility at all’
Trump declares a national emergency over coronavirus. Trump announces a supposed Google site under development to help people across the country find testing, but it is a sham.
“We’ve been in discussions with pharmacies and retailers to make drive-through tests available in the critical locations identified by public health professionals,” Trump adds, but a month later only a handful had materialized.
Says Trump: “I don’t take responsibility at all.” in response to a question about the lack of available tests.
March 13: National emergency declaration
Trump declares a national emergency, granting access to $50bn in funding for US states and territories. The move allows for waivers for doctors and hospitals in their response to the virus.
Trump says the US will increase testing capacity, but warns against those without symptoms being tested.
"It's totally unnecessary," Trump said. "This will pass."
16 March
Alarmed by CDC sentinel study, six Bay Area counties in Northern California order residents to shelter in place.
France on lockdown. Asked to evaluate his response on a 10-point scale Trump says: “I’d rate it a 10.”
March 17: Trump asks workforce to stay home, says he's always known it was a pandemic
During a news conference, Trump asks "everyone to work at home, if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings to no more than 10 people".
That same day, Trump states he has "always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I've felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic".
18 March
Trump: “It snuck up on us.” Calls himself, “in a sense, a wartime president”
March 20
Trump era stock market gains wiped out.
21 March 21
HHS finally makes a large investment in protective equipment, with $173 million order for N95 masks.
22 March
Trump starts railing about the costs of social distancing.
TWEET : WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!
Trump muses to reporters: “How life can change. 20 to 22 days ago, everything’s perfect. We’re looking forward…more jobs & more everything. And then one day we get hit with this thing that nobody ever heard of before. Nobody ever even heard of before.” (Let's recap here : he was briefed on CV-19 on 18th JANUARY, 2 months ago).
24 March
Trump says he wants to open the country by Easter. Reveals he set the target independent of health advice. “I just thought it was a beautiful time. It would be a beautiful time, a beautiful timeline. It’s a great day.”
25 March
Trump blames media for social distancing, suggesting a conspiracy to lower his approval rating.
TWEET : The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success. The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!
Trump: “It’s hard not to be happy with the job we’re doing.”
26 March
One month to the day after Trump predicted the U.S. would be “down to close to zero” cases, U.S. passes China in disclosed cases, to become world leader in COVID-19 with more than 80,000 positive tests. Trump touts testing: “It’s a tribute to the testing. We’re testing tremendous numbers of people.” Insists of the pandemic: “This was something that nobody has ever thought could happen to this country.”
27 March
Trumps signs $2.2 trillion rescue package. (Remember a month ago he laughed at the Democrats suggesting 2.1 billion to fight the virus)?
Trump on Democratic governors he’s feuded with in Washington state and Michigan: “I want them to be appreciative.” Says he told Pence: “Don’t call the woman in Michigan. If they don’t treat you right, I don’t call.”
29 March
Trump extends social distancing to end of April. Claims he just heard for the first time that 2.2 million Americans could die without social distancing.
Trump suggests nurses are stealing respirator masks. “Something’s going on. Where are the masks going? Are they going out the back door?”
30 March 30
Trump touts completion of 1 million tests — 26 days after Pence insisted there were that many distributed.
30 March: Trump says administration inherited 'broken test' as cases soar (not sure how you can inherit a broken test for a virus that didn't exist 5 months ago).
Confirmed cases of the coronavirus top 160,000 by the end of March. Healthcare workers and authorities across the country bemoan the lack of testing.
Trump falsely tells Fox News his administration "inherited a broken test" for COVID-19.
31 March
Trump: “The surge is coming, and it’s coming strong… We are going to go through a very tough two weeks. This is going to be a very, very painful two weeks.” Blames Obama for “obsolete tests.” Asked whether impeachment took his eye off the ball, Trump responds, “I guess it probably did.”
Trump in appearance on Hannity: “We have hundreds of thousands of people who get better just by sitting around and even going to work. Some of them go to work, but they get better.” Muses on death rate: “I think the 3.4 percent number is really a false number. Now this is just my hunch, but based on a lot of conversations … personally, I’d say the number is way under 1 percent.”
Pence makes wild claim of testing availability: “We’ll have over a million tests in the field today.” One million tests will not be completed until the end of the month.
5 March Fauci laments closure of pandemic response team in White House: “We worked very well with that office. It would be nice if the office were still there.”
6 March
Trump visits the CDC laboratories and calls the pandemic “an unforeseen problem”.
“What a problem,” he says. “Came out of nowhere.”
The stock market begins to plunge in earnest, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average shedding more than 20% in next two weeks.
6 March
Trump lies: “As of right now anybody who needs a test [can get one] and the tests are all perfect. Like the letter was perfect.” Trump admits he wants to keep infection numbers low, advises against unloading a cruise ship with sick passengers off the coast of California: “I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship. That wasn’t our fault.” Trump praises his own understanding of the science: “I really get it. People here are surprised that I understand it…. Maybe I have natural ability.”
8 March
South Korea and the United States each identified their first coronavirus case on the same day; South Korea has tested 189,236, the United States 1,707.
9 March
Flu comparison
Trump : So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!
9 March
‘4m tests by the end of the week’
Former Trump homeland security adviser Tom Bossert publishes an op-ed: “It’s now or never for the US if it hopes to keep coronavirus from burning out of control.”
In an evening news conference, White House officials say the United States will have tested 1 million people that week and thereafter perform 4m tests per week. “We’ve been moving progressively to bring that test closer and closer and closer to the patient,” Azar says.
The number was false by multiple orders of magnitude. Through 12 March, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had completed 4,000 tests – not 4m.
10 March
‘When people need a test, they can get a test’
“When people need a test, they can get a test,” Trump says at a White House briefing. “When the professionals need a test, when they need tests for people, they can get the test. It’s gone really well.”
12 March
A ‘million tests out now’
Dr Anthony Fauci tells Congress that the United States does not have sufficient testing. “The system is not really geared to what we need right now,” he says. “That is a failing. Let’s admit it.”
But Trump says at a White House briefing there are a “million tests out now” and “if you go to the right agency, if you go to the right area, you get the test”.
13 March
‘I don’t take responsibility at all’
Trump declares a national emergency over coronavirus. Trump announces a supposed Google site under development to help people across the country find testing, but it is a sham.
“We’ve been in discussions with pharmacies and retailers to make drive-through tests available in the critical locations identified by public health professionals,” Trump adds, but a month later only a handful had materialized.
Says Trump: “I don’t take responsibility at all.” in response to a question about the lack of available tests.
March 13: National emergency declaration
Trump declares a national emergency, granting access to $50bn in funding for US states and territories. The move allows for waivers for doctors and hospitals in their response to the virus.
Trump says the US will increase testing capacity, but warns against those without symptoms being tested.
"It's totally unnecessary," Trump said. "This will pass."
16 March
Alarmed by CDC sentinel study, six Bay Area counties in Northern California order residents to shelter in place.
France on lockdown. Asked to evaluate his response on a 10-point scale Trump says: “I’d rate it a 10.”
March 17: Trump asks workforce to stay home, says he's always known it was a pandemic
During a news conference, Trump asks "everyone to work at home, if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings to no more than 10 people".
That same day, Trump states he has "always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I've felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic".
18 March
Trump: “It snuck up on us.” Calls himself, “in a sense, a wartime president”
March 20
Trump era stock market gains wiped out.
21 March 21
HHS finally makes a large investment in protective equipment, with $173 million order for N95 masks.
22 March
Trump starts railing about the costs of social distancing.
TWEET : WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!
Trump muses to reporters: “How life can change. 20 to 22 days ago, everything’s perfect. We’re looking forward…more jobs & more everything. And then one day we get hit with this thing that nobody ever heard of before. Nobody ever even heard of before.” (Let's recap here : he was briefed on CV-19 on 18th JANUARY, 2 months ago).
24 March
Trump says he wants to open the country by Easter. Reveals he set the target independent of health advice. “I just thought it was a beautiful time. It would be a beautiful time, a beautiful timeline. It’s a great day.”
25 March
Trump blames media for social distancing, suggesting a conspiracy to lower his approval rating.
TWEET : The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success. The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!
Trump: “It’s hard not to be happy with the job we’re doing.”
26 March
One month to the day after Trump predicted the U.S. would be “down to close to zero” cases, U.S. passes China in disclosed cases, to become world leader in COVID-19 with more than 80,000 positive tests. Trump touts testing: “It’s a tribute to the testing. We’re testing tremendous numbers of people.” Insists of the pandemic: “This was something that nobody has ever thought could happen to this country.”
27 March
Trumps signs $2.2 trillion rescue package. (Remember a month ago he laughed at the Democrats suggesting 2.1 billion to fight the virus)?
Trump on Democratic governors he’s feuded with in Washington state and Michigan: “I want them to be appreciative.” Says he told Pence: “Don’t call the woman in Michigan. If they don’t treat you right, I don’t call.”
29 March
Trump extends social distancing to end of April. Claims he just heard for the first time that 2.2 million Americans could die without social distancing.
Trump suggests nurses are stealing respirator masks. “Something’s going on. Where are the masks going? Are they going out the back door?”
30 March 30
Trump touts completion of 1 million tests — 26 days after Pence insisted there were that many distributed.
30 March: Trump says administration inherited 'broken test' as cases soar (not sure how you can inherit a broken test for a virus that didn't exist 5 months ago).
Confirmed cases of the coronavirus top 160,000 by the end of March. Healthcare workers and authorities across the country bemoan the lack of testing.
Trump falsely tells Fox News his administration "inherited a broken test" for COVID-19.
31 March
Trump: “The surge is coming, and it’s coming strong… We are going to go through a very tough two weeks. This is going to be a very, very painful two weeks.” Blames Obama for “obsolete tests.” Asked whether impeachment took his eye off the ball, Trump responds, “I guess it probably did.”
1 April
Trump touts his social media clout. “Did you know I was number one on Facebook? I just found out I’m number one on Facebook.”
2 April
Additional 6.6 million jobless claims.
Jared Kushner claims nation’s medical stockpile is not for the states: “The notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile. It’s not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use.”
Fauci on the lack of stay-at-home orders nationwide: “I don’t understand why that’s not happening.”
3 April: Cloth masks recommended
Trump announces that his administration is recommending people wear non-medical cloth masks to help contain the spread of the coronavirus, contradicting weeks of claims from administration officials that masks may not help.
The measure is voluntary. Trump says at a news briefing he does not see himself partaking.
"I don't think I'm going to be doing it," Trump says, citing difficulty when meeting world leaders: "Wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens - I just don't see it."
Note: It was unclear which world leaders he was referring to since most are adhering to social distancing guidelines and are not travelling.
CDC advises cloth masks for the public. Trump says he won’t. “I just don’t want to wear one myself.” Touts response: “We have done a job like nobody’s every done a job.” Blames states: “Many of the states were totally unprepared for this…. They should have had more ventilators.”
Ignoring new science, Redfield insists virus can’t travel more than six feet: “This virus has a great weakness: It can’t jump from one person to another if it’s got to swim more than six feet.”
4-5 April : Trump pushes hydroxychloroquine
Trump says in two successive news briefings that US citizens should try an unproven anti-malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, to treat COVID-19.
"Take it. What do you have to lose?" Trump asks on Saturday, suggesting he might do so himself after asking "my doctors".
Trump says the following day there's no time "to take a couple years" to test the drug's potency against COVID-19.
6 April Death Toll: 10,880
Kudlow: “I don’t believe anybody could have predicted the exponential rise of this.”
April 7: Trump claims testing increase
"We have now done 1,790,000 tests nationwide," Trump says during a news briefing.
"That's more than any other country in the world, hence, we have more cases. And that number is growing by nearly 125,000 people per day. Think of that one. So, it's growing by 125,000 people per day."
Note: Actually, testing averaged 147,000 a day in that period, according to reporting from the Washington Post newspaper. The US was also lagging behind other countries in terms of testing per capita.
TRUMP : "The testing has been incredible now, and to a level that nobody's seen... we have tested more than all countries put together." President Trump says the US has carried out more tests than every other country in the world combined.
The latest data shows that a total of 6,231,182 tests have been carried out in the US. This is more than any other single country.
However, it's nowhere near as many as the rest of the world combined. Just adding together the totals of Spain, Italy, Germany and the UK gives you more than the US.
With more than 1,900 fatalities, COVID-19 becomes nation’s leading cause of daily deaths.
8 April
Trump administration announces it will end FEMA funding for coronavirus testing sites, claiming it’s on states to pick up tab. (Amid outcry, the government will reverse this decision.)
9 April
Jobless claims surge to 17 million since crisis began.
Trump TWEETS : The Wall Street Journal always “forgets” to mention that the ratings for the White House Press Briefings are “through the roof” (Monday Night Football, Bachelor Finale, according to @nytimes) & is only way for me to escape the Fake News & get my views across. WSJ is Fake News!
10 April
CDC publishes research warning that those infected with the virus may spread it more than double the distance of 6 feet: “The transmission distance of SARS-CoV-2 might be 4 m.” (Four meters is just over 13 feet.)
12 April
Fauci on CNN: “If…you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives. Obviously, no one is going to deny that.” (except Trump of course).
13 April
Trump insists at White House press conference: “Everything we did was right.”
13 April: Trump claims 'total' authority over governors on openings, tensions with Fauci
Rumours swirl that Trump will fire Fauci after the president retweeted a tweet with the hashtag #FireFauci.
The tweet came after Fauci said prevention efforts would have saved more lives. Fauci told TV network CNN that social distancing and other measures "could have saved more lives".
But he added it was "very difficult to go back and say that" and the process of deciding whether to impose early restrictions was "complicated".
TWEET : For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect....
....It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!
Note: Trump's claim of total authority was not true. While the executive branch is granted some powers during times of emergency, even those powers have limits. The US constitution also gives public health and safety responsibilities primarily to state and local officials within their own jurisdictions.
Governors push back on Trump's assertion, saying it was "factually wrong" and accusing the president of "spoiling for a fight on this issue".
14 April
Trump delays stimulus checks to struggling Americans so that they can include his signature.
Trump announces United States will freeze funding to WHO, scapegoating the U.N. agency for “severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus.”
21 April
The Trump Administration removes the Director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), Dr. Rick Bright, from his post. A day later, Dr. Bright, still a U.S. official, publicly states that he believes he was removed from his post because he “resisted efforts to fund potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections” (full statement).
“I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science — not politics or cronyism — has to lead the way. … Specifically, and contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit.”
23 April
President Trump suggests checking whether the ingestion of disinfectants could help treat the coronavirus.
At the daily Coronavirus Task Force Press Briefing, President Trump discusses injecting disinfectants into the body:
“And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.”
Trump also said, “So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of… Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light? And I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.”
White House officials tell the New York Times that it was one of the worst days in one of the worst weeks of Trump’s presidency.
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I could go on and on and on ... (and have - but luckily I had most of this clipped on file - whew) !
Trump touts his social media clout. “Did you know I was number one on Facebook? I just found out I’m number one on Facebook.”
2 April
Additional 6.6 million jobless claims.
Jared Kushner claims nation’s medical stockpile is not for the states: “The notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile. It’s not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use.”
Fauci on the lack of stay-at-home orders nationwide: “I don’t understand why that’s not happening.”
3 April: Cloth masks recommended
Trump announces that his administration is recommending people wear non-medical cloth masks to help contain the spread of the coronavirus, contradicting weeks of claims from administration officials that masks may not help.
The measure is voluntary. Trump says at a news briefing he does not see himself partaking.
"I don't think I'm going to be doing it," Trump says, citing difficulty when meeting world leaders: "Wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens - I just don't see it."
Note: It was unclear which world leaders he was referring to since most are adhering to social distancing guidelines and are not travelling.
CDC advises cloth masks for the public. Trump says he won’t. “I just don’t want to wear one myself.” Touts response: “We have done a job like nobody’s every done a job.” Blames states: “Many of the states were totally unprepared for this…. They should have had more ventilators.”
Ignoring new science, Redfield insists virus can’t travel more than six feet: “This virus has a great weakness: It can’t jump from one person to another if it’s got to swim more than six feet.”
4-5 April : Trump pushes hydroxychloroquine
Trump says in two successive news briefings that US citizens should try an unproven anti-malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, to treat COVID-19.
"Take it. What do you have to lose?" Trump asks on Saturday, suggesting he might do so himself after asking "my doctors".
Trump says the following day there's no time "to take a couple years" to test the drug's potency against COVID-19.
6 April Death Toll: 10,880
Kudlow: “I don’t believe anybody could have predicted the exponential rise of this.”
April 7: Trump claims testing increase
"We have now done 1,790,000 tests nationwide," Trump says during a news briefing.
"That's more than any other country in the world, hence, we have more cases. And that number is growing by nearly 125,000 people per day. Think of that one. So, it's growing by 125,000 people per day."
Note: Actually, testing averaged 147,000 a day in that period, according to reporting from the Washington Post newspaper. The US was also lagging behind other countries in terms of testing per capita.
TRUMP : "The testing has been incredible now, and to a level that nobody's seen... we have tested more than all countries put together." President Trump says the US has carried out more tests than every other country in the world combined.
The latest data shows that a total of 6,231,182 tests have been carried out in the US. This is more than any other single country.
However, it's nowhere near as many as the rest of the world combined. Just adding together the totals of Spain, Italy, Germany and the UK gives you more than the US.
With more than 1,900 fatalities, COVID-19 becomes nation’s leading cause of daily deaths.
8 April
Trump administration announces it will end FEMA funding for coronavirus testing sites, claiming it’s on states to pick up tab. (Amid outcry, the government will reverse this decision.)
9 April
Jobless claims surge to 17 million since crisis began.
Trump TWEETS : The Wall Street Journal always “forgets” to mention that the ratings for the White House Press Briefings are “through the roof” (Monday Night Football, Bachelor Finale, according to @nytimes) & is only way for me to escape the Fake News & get my views across. WSJ is Fake News!
10 April
CDC publishes research warning that those infected with the virus may spread it more than double the distance of 6 feet: “The transmission distance of SARS-CoV-2 might be 4 m.” (Four meters is just over 13 feet.)
12 April
Fauci on CNN: “If…you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives. Obviously, no one is going to deny that.” (except Trump of course).
13 April
Trump insists at White House press conference: “Everything we did was right.”
13 April: Trump claims 'total' authority over governors on openings, tensions with Fauci
Rumours swirl that Trump will fire Fauci after the president retweeted a tweet with the hashtag #FireFauci.
The tweet came after Fauci said prevention efforts would have saved more lives. Fauci told TV network CNN that social distancing and other measures "could have saved more lives".
But he added it was "very difficult to go back and say that" and the process of deciding whether to impose early restrictions was "complicated".
TWEET : For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect....
....It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!
Note: Trump's claim of total authority was not true. While the executive branch is granted some powers during times of emergency, even those powers have limits. The US constitution also gives public health and safety responsibilities primarily to state and local officials within their own jurisdictions.
Governors push back on Trump's assertion, saying it was "factually wrong" and accusing the president of "spoiling for a fight on this issue".
14 April
Trump delays stimulus checks to struggling Americans so that they can include his signature.
Trump announces United States will freeze funding to WHO, scapegoating the U.N. agency for “severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus.”
21 April
The Trump Administration removes the Director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), Dr. Rick Bright, from his post. A day later, Dr. Bright, still a U.S. official, publicly states that he believes he was removed from his post because he “resisted efforts to fund potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections” (full statement).
“I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science — not politics or cronyism — has to lead the way. … Specifically, and contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit.”
23 April
President Trump suggests checking whether the ingestion of disinfectants could help treat the coronavirus.
At the daily Coronavirus Task Force Press Briefing, President Trump discusses injecting disinfectants into the body:
“And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.”
Trump also said, “So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of… Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light? And I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.”
White House officials tell the New York Times that it was one of the worst days in one of the worst weeks of Trump’s presidency.
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I could go on and on and on ... (and have - but luckily I had most of this clipped on file - whew) !
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Also, Frogfish, you have to remember that Dantes programming parameters don’t cover negativity to Trump - TrumpBot is only allowed to say nice things about him.
I think someone was able to hack his Boris code - so, hope remains.
I think someone was able to hack his Boris code - so, hope remains.
You missed off the bit where Senator Burr amongst others took advantage of their knowledge of the real situation to do a bit of insider trading and sell stocks before news got out and tanked their value...
Sadly, this approach works.
I mean working class. Blue collar people. I know a lot more of those guys who play golf than businessmen who make deals on fancy courses with big fees.
Oh yeah. I'm not talking businessmen. It'sa game for "regular Joes". But if you can afford to play golf, you're relatively affluent.
@Frogfish that's a list of words he's said which the media get hysterical over. His decision to lower taxes, cut regulations, introduce tariffs, reverse the export of jobs to China, ban flights from china, cut funding to useless adminstrative bodies. All spot on.
This for example. Words. Designed to criticise Trump. Reality is the federal stockpile belongs to the federal government. Reality is it is not unlimited. The states obviously wanted all the stock, the entire lot and more all for themselves, and duly requested it. When they don't get it the fake news reports shortages. Reality is the way the administration assessed actual needs and allocated the resources accordingly was spot on.
This for example. Words. Designed to criticise Trump. Reality is the federal stockpile belongs to the federal government. Reality is it is not unlimited. The states obviously wanted all the stock, the entire lot and more all for themselves, and duly requested it. When they don't get it the fake news reports shortages. Reality is the way the administration assessed actual needs and allocated the resources accordingly was spot on.
Yeah he did a great job banning flights from China.
Except he forgot about the rest of the world, so the US imported the virus from Europe instead.
He has no problem with Chinese investment when it’s a project he’s also financially invested in - he just prefers not to mention it.
Reality is, America have lost more people to Coronavirus than they did to the Vietnam War and you’ll argue that Trump is doing a great job - again follow the playbook - blame everyone else but him, claim everything that doesn’t paint him in glowing terms is “fake news”, deflect from the truth, create some foreign demon to blame, throw in a bit of rhetoric about demanding compensation, you name it.
Last week he was peddling, inject yourself with disinfectant, before that it was untested drugs, before that, it’s all a hoax, now he’s moved onto “it cane from a lab in Wuhan” - no actual evidence, mind, just vague references to having some - as long as you don’t focus on what’s actually happening - ie death - then that’s fine.
Actually - I don’t know why I, or anyone else for that matter, even bothers discussing Trump with you - if ever there was an an act in futility. You’d literally prove his statement that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it.
Not banning flights from the rest of the world was a mistake. Easy to see in hindsight, he saw it himself then corrected it. He's not god for god's sake.
The rest of what you say is irrelevant virtue signalling. If he did "focus" on deaths, if he ignored the disinfectant, cast no blame, praised china, what would be different? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The lies only boost his election chances which is why the media gets hysterical over them.
The rest of what you say is irrelevant virtue signalling. If he did "focus" on deaths, if he ignored the disinfectant, cast no blame, praised china, what would be different? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The lies only boost his election chances which is why the media gets hysterical over them.
Interesting read here
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/02/...ie-garrett.html#click=https://t.co/sz195sgGXZ
Trump gutted the CDC and the top scientists are afraid to talk.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/02/...ie-garrett.html#click=https://t.co/sz195sgGXZ
Trump gutted the CDC and the top scientists are afraid to talk.
Except they are not lies. Every one of those comments/actions on those dates is documented (many from his own damn stupid tweets - how presidential is that).
I was referring to his lies, when he is tweeting or giving press briefings he's saying whatever he thinks will get him more votes or will satisfy his own ego. That's totally fine. It's funny too, as in the comedy value. That is very different to the evil malicious lies told by other politicians, whose full-time job is to lie because in reality everything they actually do is to line their own pockets and those of their donors. In case you didn't notice, Big D's pockets are not in need of lining.
And everything those top scientists do is to line their own pockets. I would have gutted them myself, literally, with a scythe.
Trump has been lining his own pockets, and so has his family and all his mates...
I see Frog Xi Ping is parroting Chinese Communist propaganda still
Many surprisings!
How they must love useful idiots like him
Many surprisings!
How they must love useful idiots like him
You mean his businesses are doing well, because he brought investment back into the US (rather than into increasing the profit margins of multinational corporations like his predecessors), as well as making it easier for US companies to compete in foreign markets (rather than just using them for cheap labour like his predecessors). Sound economic policy. But how dare the orange man make money fair and square through capitalism! That, well that would mean anyone can do the same, event the little poor people, we can't be having that, no siree, impeach him!!