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Chelsea v Liverpool - OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD

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On a day like this we lose but we will not be trodden upon again. With a true Liverpool spirit we will walk on and emerge from this even stronger!!! YNWA

The game was pretty evenly matched until that mistake in midfield cost us. Once again the game was won in midfield in my opinion. If you didn't get a chance to watch the game here are the goals;

http://www.liverpoolfcgoals.webs.com
 
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their goalie has hardly made a save.

losing is one thing but gettin beat without testing their keeper. really unacceptable.
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Nob
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truth hurts
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They've niot tested our keeper either you crack head twat. Plus of course you're ignoring the save from Riera. Conveniently.
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the save from riera? keeper made hard work of that.

league challenge over for us today.

we lacked balls. how yossi missed that i'll never know.
[/quote] Shut the fuck up its only october the 4th..
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can? its not as though we were unlucky in the 3 games we've lost so far.


[/quote]6 behind leaders with 30 games to play..!
 
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their goalie has hardly made a save.

losing is one thing but gettin beat without testing their keeper. really unacceptable.
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Nob
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truth hurts
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They've niot tested our keeper either you crack head twat. Plus of course you're ignoring the save from Riera. Conveniently.
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the save from riera? keeper made hard work of that.

league challenge over for us today.

we lacked balls. how yossi missed that i'll never know.
[/quote] Shut the fuck up its only october the 4th..
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can? its not as though we were unlucky in the 3 games we've lost so far.


[/quote]6 behind leaders with 30 games to play..!
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Rage isn't very good with numbers so you may need to explain alittle bit more.
 
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can?
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because football didn't start in 1992
 
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can?
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because football didn't start in 1992
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Prove it.
 
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can?
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because football didn't start in 1992
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Very good, Georgie. ;D
 
also I want aurelio in the team asap, insua gets forwards enough but does bugger all once he is there. you could see from the few minutes on the pitch the difference in quality in delivery when aurelio replaced him.
 
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their goalie has hardly made a save.

losing is one thing but gettin beat without testing their keeper. really unacceptable.
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Nob
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truth hurts
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They've niot tested our keeper either you crack head twat. Plus of course you're ignoring the save from Riera. Conveniently.
[/quote]

the save from riera? keeper made hard work of that.

league challenge over for us today.

we lacked balls. how yossi missed that i'll never know.
[/quote] Shut the fuck up its only october the 4th..
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can? its not as though we were unlucky in the 3 games we've lost so far.


[/quote]So the fact that Martin fucking Tyler tells you no team has won when they have lost three games is enough to fan your bitter flames up to the point of giving in totally?

soooooooo....

P W D L F A Pts
1 Chelsea 8 6 2 0 19 3 20
2 Liverpool 8 6 2 0 13 6 20
3 Hull 8 5 2 1 11 11 17
4 Arsenal 8 5 1 2 16 6 16
5 Man Utd 7 4 2 1 12 4 14
6 Aston Villa 8 4 2 2 12 10 14
7 Portsmouth 8 4 1 3 9 13 13
8 West Ham 8 4 0 4 14 14 12
9 Blackburn 8 3 2 3 8 14 11
10 Man City 8 3 1 4 20 14 1
11 West Brom 8 3 1 4 7 11 10
12 Sunderland 8 2 3 3 7 9 9
13 Middlesbroug 8 3 0 5 7 14 9
14 Wigan 8 2 2 4 11 9 8
15 Bolton 8 2 2 4 8 10 8
16 Everton 8 2 2 4 12 18 8
17 Fulham 7 2 1 4 5 7 7
18 Stoke 8 2 1 5 10 15 7
19 Newcastle 8 1 3 4 9 15 6
20 Tottenham 8 0 2 6 5 12 2

Thats the table from A YEAR ago...OH look whos 6 points off the top? THE FUCKING WINNERS.
How does that fit with your utter bollocks?
It doesnt. Youre a twat.

Ps-If you have given up, then do us a favour and fuck off till June.
Ta.
 
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their goalie has hardly made a save.

losing is one thing but gettin beat without testing their keeper. really unacceptable.
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Nob
[/quote]

truth hurts
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They've niot tested our keeper either you crack head twat. Plus of course you're ignoring the save from Riera. Conveniently.
[/quote]

the save from riera? keeper made hard work of that.

league challenge over for us today.

we lacked balls. how yossi missed that i'll never know.
[/quote] Shut the fuck up its only october the 4th..
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can? its not as though we were unlucky in the 3 games we've lost so far.


[/quote]So the fact that Martin fucking Tyler tells you no team has won when they have lost three games is enough to fan your bitter flames up to the point of giving in totally?

soooooooo....

P W D L F A Pts
1 Chelsea 8 6 2 0 19 3 20
2 Liverpool 8 6 2 0 13 6 20
3 Hull 8 5 2 1 11 11 17
4 Arsenal 8 5 1 2 16 6 16
5 Man Utd 7 4 2 1 12 4 14
6 Aston Villa 8 4 2 2 12 10 14
7 Portsmouth 8 4 1 3 9 13 13
8 West Ham 8 4 0 4 14 14 12
9 Blackburn 8 3 2 3 8 14 11
10 Man City 8 3 1 4 20 14 1
11 West Brom 8 3 1 4 7 11 10
12 Sunderland 8 2 3 3 7 9 9
13 Middlesbroug 8 3 0 5 7 14 9
14 Wigan 8 2 2 4 11 9 8
15 Bolton 8 2 2 4 8 10 8
16 Everton 8 2 2 4 12 18 8
17 Fulham 7 2 1 4 5 7 7
18 Stoke 8 2 1 5 10 15 7
19 Newcastle 8 1 3 4 9 15 6
20 Tottenham 8 0 2 6 5 12 2

Thats the table from A YEAR ago...OH look whos 6 points off the top? THE FUCKING WINNERS.
How does that fit with your utter bollocks?
It doesnt. Youre a twat.

Ps-If you have given up, then do us a favour and fuck off till June.
Ta.
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to be fair manu have a game in hand.*

devil's advocate oncy. don't hit me
*shields face with his hands*
 
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their goalie has hardly made a save.

losing is one thing but gettin beat without testing their keeper. really unacceptable.
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Nob
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truth hurts
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They've niot tested our keeper either you crack head twat. Plus of course you're ignoring the save from Riera. Conveniently.
[/quote]

the save from riera? keeper made hard work of that.

league challenge over for us today.

we lacked balls. how yossi missed that i'll never know.
[/quote] Shut the fuck up its only october the 4th..
[/quote]

and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can? its not as though we were unlucky in the 3 games we've lost so far.


[/quote]So the fact that Martin fucking Tyler tells you no team has won when they have lost three games is enough to fan your bitter flames up to the point of giving in totally?

soooooooo....

P W D L F A Pts
1 Chelsea 8 6 2 0 19 3 20
2 Liverpool 8 6 2 0 13 6 20
3 Hull 8 5 2 1 11 11 17
4 Arsenal 8 5 1 2 16 6 16
5 Man Utd 7 4 2 1 12 4 14
6 Aston Villa 8 4 2 2 12 10 14
7 Portsmouth 8 4 1 3 9 13 13
8 West Ham 8 4 0 4 14 14 12
9 Blackburn 8 3 2 3 8 14 11
10 Man City 8 3 1 4 20 14 1
11 West Brom 8 3 1 4 7 11 10
12 Sunderland 8 2 3 3 7 9 9
13 Middlesbroug 8 3 0 5 7 14 9
14 Wigan 8 2 2 4 11 9 8
15 Bolton 8 2 2 4 8 10 8
16 Everton 8 2 2 4 12 18 8
17 Fulham 7 2 1 4 5 7 7
18 Stoke 8 2 1 5 10 15 7
19 Newcastle 8 1 3 4 9 15 6
20 Tottenham 8 0 2 6 5 12 2

Thats the table from A YEAR ago...OH look whos 6 points off the top? THE FUCKING WINNERS.
How does that fit with your utter bollocks?
It doesnt. Youre a twat.

Ps-If you have given up, then do us a favour and fuck off till June.
Ta.
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to be fair manu have a game in hand.*

devil's advocate oncy. don't hit me
*shields face with his hands*


[/quote]yes. A game which they lost to Fulham 2-0. Thank you very much.
 
as long as we turn the majority of our draws into wins from last season we'll push for the title. manu finished bottom of the 'top 4 league' and still won the titie.
 
Is there any way to ban rage??

Incidentally, i think it was him who raped me


*cough*
 
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fuck that I DO blame masher for the goal because we had a SHIT loads of options forwards most of our team was over the fucking halfway line, what he tried to do was fucking IDIOTIC. simply pass to the left or right but he takes on three players with virtually our entire team ahead of him.
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Exaggerated rubbish. They might have been coming forward but most of them hadn't got there. Only Torres was in space ahead of him.
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whatever, before the ball got nicked of masher's toe I screaming for him to pass to the options he had left AND right. I must have imagined those passing options I have have also imagine that chelsea have little to confront because liverpool players were upfield.
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I can see it now. Mascher gives the ball to one of "those passing options", who were all marked, and then you get on his case for doing THAT. The guy just can't win with you.
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JJ, Mascher (whom I love) had at least two easy options that he refused to take, turned himself into trouble, and needlessly lost posession. The goal WAS his fault.
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I hear you, old friend, but we'll have to agree to differ. The only options Mascher did have were sideways or backwards, the kind of pass we played too often last season in all those drawn games. His teammates gave him no help ahead of him, at a time when we badly needed to keep forward momentum. Stevie has to play in CM alongside him, at least until Aquilani can come in, to avoid such a thing happening again.
 
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can?
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because football didn't start in 1992
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ok keep going back and you'll find the last team to manage the title after a start like our was utd in 1960 something.

there has been nothing to suggest that we are title contenders this season regardless of the statistics.
 
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can?
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because football didn't start in 1992
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ok keep going back and you'll find the last team to manage the title after a start like our was utd in 1960 something.

there has been nothing to suggest that we are title contenders this season regardless of the statistics.
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We way back in 1981/82 when we lost to Man City on New Years Day and also way back in 85/86. Know you're fucking history you fucking whopper.
 
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and we've already lost 3 games. no team has won the premier league from this position. what makes you think we can?
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because football didn't start in 1992
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ok keep going back and you'll find the last team to manage the title after a start like our was utd in 1960 something.

there has been nothing to suggest that we are title contenders this season regardless of the statistics.
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We way back in 1981/82 when we lost to Man City on New Years Day and also way back in 85/86. Know you're fucking history you fucking whopper.
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didn't realise i'd missed xmas, nevermind bonfire night or even halloween. 8 games in and we've lost 3. i may have been a kid in 1981 but i'm sure even then we'd have played 8 league games by then.

you go check your history.
 
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6 points behind the leaders isn't such a terrible position to be in at this stage of the season, but we've just used up another one of our lives.
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Yes, but we're also playing shit.
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It's October for fuck sake.
 
Masher was at fault for the first, but to be fair, I thought he played well overall. Kuyt was poor, Gerrard was poor, and Torres didn't get supplied enough from the midfield (although he should have done better with that header). Carragher looked dodgy again too. He really needs to pick up the pace a bit. On a brighter note, Insua, and Skrtel were solid, as was Johnson, so I suppose we have some positives to look at in our defence.

Overall, the scoreline really did flatter Chelsea, and we were just as good as them. We definitely deserved something out of it, but we failed to take our chances, while Chelsea did the opposite.

I was expecting to lose, but with the way we played, I feel somewhat disappointed now.

EDIT: lol @Drogba. What breed of a muppet is he at all at all?
 
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fuck that I DO blame masher for the goal because we had a SHIT loads of options forwards most of our team was over the fucking halfway line, what he tried to do was fucking IDIOTIC. simply pass to the left or right but he takes on three players with virtually our entire team ahead of him.
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Exaggerated rubbish. They might have been coming forward but most of them hadn't got there. Only Torres was in space ahead of him.
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whatever, before the ball got nicked of masher's toe I screaming for him to pass to the options he had left AND right. I must have imagined those passing options I have have also imagine that chelsea have little to confront because liverpool players were upfield.
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I can see it now. Mascher gives the ball to one of "those passing options", who were all marked, and then you get on his case for doing THAT. The guy just can't win with you.
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JJ, Mascher (whom I love) had at least two easy options that he refused to take, turned himself into trouble, and needlessly lost posession. The goal WAS his fault.
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I hear you, old friend, but we'll have to agree to differ. The only options Mascher did have were sideways or backwards, the kind of pass we played too often last season in all those drawn games. His teammates gave him no help ahead of him, at a time when we badly needed to keep forward momentum. Stevie has to play in CM alongside him, at least until Aquilani can come in, to avoid such a thing happening again.
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Amigo, the option that was available to him, that he didn't take, would not have led to a goal. This was a game where we would have readily accepted a draw...

His mistake cost us a goal. Simple.
 
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fuck that I DO blame masher for the goal because we had a SHIT loads of options forwards most of our team was over the fucking halfway line, what he tried to do was fucking IDIOTIC. simply pass to the left or right but he takes on three players with virtually our entire team ahead of him.
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Exaggerated rubbish. They might have been coming forward but most of them hadn't got there. Only Torres was in space ahead of him.
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whatever, before the ball got nicked of masher's toe I screaming for him to pass to the options he had left AND right. I must have imagined those passing options I have have also imagine that chelsea have little to confront because liverpool players were upfield.
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I can see it now. Mascher gives the ball to one of "those passing options", who were all marked, and then you get on his case for doing THAT. The guy just can't win with you.
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JJ, Mascher (whom I love) had at least two easy options that he refused to take, turned himself into trouble, and needlessly lost posession. The goal WAS his fault.
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I hear you, old friend, but we'll have to agree to differ. The only options Mascher did have were sideways or backwards, the kind of pass we played too often last season in all those drawn games. His teammates gave him no help ahead of him, at a time when we badly needed to keep forward momentum. Stevie has to play in CM alongside him, at least until Aquilani can come in, to avoid such a thing happening again.
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Amigo, the option that was available to him, that he didn't take, would not have led to a goal. This was a game where we would have readily accepted a draw...

His mistake cost us a goal. Simple.
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Well yes mate, but it's not as simple as saying 'Mascherano error goal conceded, discussion over'.

You've got to ask why he felt the need to try and take players under no pressure? Why didn't he take the sideways option? Why was he faced with 3 opposotion players? Why was there no covering midfielder? Millions of questions chief.

Whilst his error led to the goal and of course "it's that simple", ot's also far too simple to say that the discussion ends there.
 
I'm not arguing that there wasn't enough options available to him. Or that his choice to try and run through two or three players wasn't influeneced by our attacking impotence for the majority of the game.

All I'm saying here is that it's inescapable that his error led to the goal. That part of this wider general discussion cannot be refuted.
 
Heh, just had a thought. Can you imagine if Lucas had done what Masher did for their first goal?

The internet would have crashed.
 
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Heh, just had a thought. Can you imagine if Lucas had done what Masher did for their first goal?

The internet would have crashed.
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That would mean Lucas would have had to try and have a positive attacking influence on the game, so I think the internet was never in danger.
 
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Heh, just had a thought. Can you imagine if Lucas had done what Masher did for their first goal?

The internet would have crashed.
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That would mean Lucas would have had to try and have a positive attacking influence on the game, so I think the internet was never in danger.
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People only see what they want to see regarding Lucas.
 
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Heh, just had a thought. Can you imagine if Lucas had done what Masher did for their first goal?

The internet would have crashed.
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That would mean Lucas would have had to try and have a positive attacking influence on the game, so I think the internet was never in danger.
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People only see what they want to see regarding Lucas.
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Lucas would be decent in a 442 but in our formation he doesn't give enough. He's not Alonso and he'll never be Gerrard and for that position he needs to offer alot more as the team is suffering as whole with him in it with the current formation.

Gerrard with Masher and Yossi in thw whole makes the most sense now.

It brings our currently often isolated captain into the thick of the action. Provides some cover for Masher when he goes up field (as Gerrard is much quicker over the ground than Lucas) and gives Torres a very good link player in Yossi who is obviously better in the middle.

Do you not agree?
 
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carragher is fucking useless!! cost us both goals
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Easy...
 
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