• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Chelsea, too much too soon?

Status
Not open for further replies.
It was a big money move though and he was a total bust wasn't he? Record fee, surely equivalent to a £100m+ today.

Wiki : he moved from Lazio to Manchester United on 12 July for a fee of £28.1 million on a five-year deal, the most expensive transfer in English football at that time
Yeah that was bad. For us, has to be Carroll...
 
It's pretty disconcerting really that they have made all these signings. Regardless of how tactically astute Lampard is or isn't, he's (on paper at least) bought better than anyone this Summer. I know that's down to their dirty money, but either way, with what money they have he has identified big players who will make them formidable upfront. If he buys a decent keeper they will be there or thereabouts. They will take points off alot of teams regardless, including the big guns.
 
Come to think of it, who is the biggest "bust" in premier league history?
I'm talking young player moving to a big team for big money, not someone like Torres who was great for us and wank for Chelsea?


Kepa is a great shout if you discount the likes of Veron and Shevchenko. Chelsea had a fair few of these though - Kezman, Mutu, Bakayoko (had to google what happened to him and he's still their player but loaned out)

Out of our signings, obviously Aquilani and Markovic. Carroll if you count transfers between premier league teams
 
Depay? Or kepa
Talking of Depay, his contract finishes next year, has been in phenomenal form in France. Wonder if he is in Klopp's radar. Personally speaking this season if we can Thiago and someone like Daka, I would be happy. It could easily be financed by selling fringe players like Shaq, Wilson, Grujic etc.. There would be enough there to cover the black hole.
 
Oh missed the bit about youth. Mega expensive youth signings are kinda new aren't they? So much risk inolved.
 
Torres was also a waste at Chelsea.

As usual one or two of their signings will be great, one or two will be ok and one or two will be flops.
 
So now Chelsea are apparently open to selling Kante and Jorginho to fund the move for Declan Rice. Lampard is building a team that's more in his image, but taken all together I think it will not much of an improvement on last year's team. They would need to hit an absolutely jack-pot with every signing for it to be so.
 
I dont think Jorginho would be a huge loss to them, particularly if they are bringing Havertz to bolster the midfield. Id be surprised if they let Kante go, hes still one of the best in the business even if at 29 hes probably past his peak. Rice is only 21 so on that level it makes sense swapping 2 older players for 2 up and coming talents.
 
Chelsea still have a pretty shite defence that shipped 50+ goals, and a keeper with no arms.
I dont think Thiago Silva be the knight in shining armour to rescue that defence either. He'll give them some leadership and experience, but he's 36 and on the wrong side of his career. Think he'll struggle with the pace and intensity.
Replacing Alonso with Chilwell isnt that much of an instant uprade, but a long term English left back.

Offensivly they look good, but what happened to the English youth taking Chelsea forward?
Hudson Odoi, Abraham etc.

All in all, I'm not to concerned yet given their defence and Lampard as their manager.
I hate the fact that they are getting Havertz. He should be in our team.

Would have been interesting to know who we had lined up for this summer pre Covid. There was talk of 2-3 major signings with the right age to integrate quality and youth into the squad. Ah well.
 
Come to think of it, who is the biggest "bust" in premier league history?
I'm talking young player moving to a big team for big money, not someone like Torres who was great for us and wank for Chelsea?
Kepa certainly, Markovic, Kean at Everton looks to be going badly wrong.
 
So far that's been a really bad transfer for Real.

They spent €60m on Jovic from Frankfurt last summer. He scored 2 goals.

They are an absolute dogshit club, how they havent gone bankrupt several times already mystifies me
 
They spent €60m on Jovic from Frankfurt last summer. He scored 2 goals.

They are an absolute dogshit club, how they havent gone bankrupt several times already mystifies me
They have been quite frugal for sometime now, their net spend over the last 5 years (not including this transfer window) is less than Brighton's.
https://www.football365.com/news/europe-football-net-spend-liverpool-manchester-city#:~:text=12) Real Madrid.,a couple of first-teamers.
Liverpool are 29th.
Also, RM have taken their salaries way down to only being £312m only £2m more than LFC but having 40% more in turnover ( at €757m, highest in Europe)
https://www.sportbible.com/football...-bills-for-201819-have-been-revealed-20200306
Their cash balance was €155m. So at the moment they look to be one of the best run clubs in Europe.
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/real-madrid-profits-revenues-2018-19-season
 
Last edited:
I dont think Jorginho would be a huge loss to them, particularly if they are bringing Havertz to bolster the midfield. Id be surprised if they let Kante go, hes still one of the best in the business even if at 29 hes probably past his peak. Rice is only 21 so on that level it makes sense swapping 2 older players for 2 up and coming talents.

Where does this idea that 29 is past their peak come from?
 
They spent €60m on Jovic from Frankfurt last summer. He scored 2 goals.

They are an absolute dogshit club, how they havent gone bankrupt several times already mystifies me

The Jovic situation is a bit mystifying but Benzema has been scoring so... what can you say.

But the Hazard transfer has been the exception rather than the rule for Real in recent years. They've prioritised youth for quite a while now.

Funny how the roles have reversed between them and Barca now.
 

Kenny, Jockey, Cally, Tommy Smith, Gary Mac, Pirlo, Totti, Zanetti, Seedorf, Nesta, Xavi, Zidane, Zola, Maldini, Cafu, Vardy, Drogba, Deschamps, Blanc, Cannavaro, Scholes, Giggs, Sheringham, Larsson, Benzema, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski...
All past it at 29.
 
Kenny, Jockey, Cally, Tommy Smith, Gary Mac, Pirlo, Totti, Zanetti, Seedorf, Nesta, Xavi, Zidane, Zola, Maldini, Cafu, Vardy, Drogba, Deschamps, Blanc, Cannavaro, Scholes, Giggs, Sheringham, Larsson, Benzema, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski...
All past it at 29.

Why are people so stupid about this ?

Nobody is saying every single 29 year old is past their peak. But it's very likely that they are.
Because there are fucking millions of players that are past their peak by 29. Why don't you list them ?
 
Players don't suddenly become completely useless when they hit 30 but I doubt there are too many who are actually a lot better after they turn 30. Those that are would probably change their game in some way.

I'm sure there are some exceptions to the rule but then there are some players who hit their peak at 25-26. You can't honestly say that Michael Owen or Robbie Fowler were at their very best when they were 29.
 
This thread is depressing. It's reminded me that the difference in age between myself and a past-it professional footballer would be a child who's about to start secondary school.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom