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Whatever happens, Brighton has made both us and Chelsea look like complete dickheads. I feel like we're 'all in' at this point. If Caicedo joins Chelsea then other clubs will jack up their prices and the market gets further inflated. Additionally, the amount of cretins on the internet praising Jorj for using Lavia as a smokescreen for our real target has made me wince. This has never been the plan. There's been no groundwork in place for this deal - Arsenal worked on Rice for 12 months. We likely had a 6-12 month plan to attract VVD. There's been none of that for Caicedo. It's all been lost in the turnover of Sporting Directors and it will largely be for that reason if we do not get this over the line.

All we've done is write off signing a CB, combined whatever cash we do have, and stuck it all on red 5 minutes before the casino shuts. Whether we come out winners or losers there's no doubt that this has been messy and uncoordinated.

Assuming he signs for us, in what way do we look dickheads? We contacted Brighton and had a deal accepted within hours, Chelsea has faffed around for months, we've tied it up in a day.

We obviously knew about Caicedo, but didn't need him / couldn't afford him before the Saudi transfers, but they changed everything. This might still fall through, but at the moment I'm convinced it's just agent talk, Chelsea won't match, but even they do, we can't control if the player / agent are dishonest, they obviously encouraged our bid and it seems Caicedo wants to come, but the agent is playing funny bollocks.

We've been clinical here, we've made Chelsea look like dickheads, and conversely both us and Brighton have come out looking like the more professional outfits who want to get things done, him going to Chelsea doesn't change that for me.

I do agree about your concerns over the centre back position though, we're shamefully light there, an injury to Konate (which let's be honest is a foregone conclusion) and we're fucked.
 
All will be forgotten when he puts in a huge crunching tackle on Ollie Watkins in his first home game against Aston Villa.
As long as he doesn’t kiss the badge as he clearly has no empathy for the club regardless of this messy deal
 
Twitter twatter that Chelsea offered him over twice the wages from the 120k that was first agreed, 250k per week.
No wonder that the agent was acting up, if true.
 
Chelsea most likely are trying to make us walk away from all this. Wonder if we will have the balls to just sit tight and hope our deal with Brighton is the one that is valid. If Klopp gets the feeling we are second choice then he'll pull the plug. Which is fair obviously.

Yep, I think you're right, looks like Chelsea can't afford to match the bid.

 
Assuming he signs for us, in what way do we look dickheads? We contacted Brighton and had a deal accepted within hours, Chelsea has faffed around for months, we've tied it up in a day.

We obviously knew about Caicedo, but didn't need him / couldn't afford him before the Saudi transfers, but they changed everything. This might still fall through, but at the moment I'm convinced it's just agent talk, Chelsea won't match, but even they do, we can't control if the player / agent are dishonest, they obviously encouraged our bid and it seems Caicedo wants to come, but the agent is playing funny bollocks.

We've been clinical here, we've made Chelsea look like dickheads, and conversely both us and Brighton have come out looking like the more professional outfits who want to get things done, him going to Chelsea doesn't change that for me.

I do agree about your concerns over the centre back position though, we're shamefully light there, an injury to Konate (which let's be honest is a foregone conclusion) and we're fucked.
We could have offered 100m in July. He would be safely in the net and would have had a pre-season with us.
 
So what now? Reports that caicedo has started following Chelsea on social media....https://talksport.com/football/1529...stagram-chelsea-transfer-mauricio-pochettino/

Are we running this seaon with Cujo as DM? Go back for Lavia? or some other player? Aurélien Tchouaméni would be a good alternative but if Real dont want to sell theres nothing we can do there.

This is a big mess to be honest. Why would you negotiate like this. smacks of amatuer hour. Edwwards would never. surely we should have had feelers out to the palyers camp regarding wether he would be interested in joining Liverpool.


He's also following Arsenal, Man Utd and City
 
Nah, there is nothing wrong with his stance if this tweet is true (cos who the fuck is davidockop), we've come in an tried to hijack a deal for a player who'd agreed to sign for someone else, absolutely nothing wrong with him respecting the club who put in infinitely more effort for him if all things were equal. We were perfectly happy when VVD chose us over City for this reason, it's exactly the same thing.
If that's the case, he shouldn't be open to play for us, irrespective of whether we offer more money or not.

It should be Chelsea or nothing.
 
Chelsea taking all summer to sign him suggests they actually weren’t that interested otherwise they would have got it done before the season started.
 
So what's the actual latest? He will sign for LFC if Chelsea don't bid £111m or more or he is going to Chelsea regardless?
 
I seem to recall reading an article, perhaps in the Athletic, on the purchase of Caicedo by Brighton.
If memory serves me right there were many complications with the transfer, among which were numerous parties having rights to much of the fee paid.
It was enough to put off lot of other clubs in trying to buy him, even though there was considerable interest at the time.
Perhaps things are no different now
 
He’s off to Chelsea now. Seems as though Brighton are open to improved offers and Chelsea are moving funds around to make it happen.
 
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