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blame rafa or whoevers responsbile for signing the shite

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[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=42123.msg1187248#msg1187248 date=1286122187]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42123.msg1187220#msg1187220 date=1286121849]
I'd take Rafa back with open arms right now. What a shit thread this is.
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I wouldn't, they can both fuck off.
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Agreed and well said.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=42123.msg1187248#msg1187248 date=1286122187]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42123.msg1187220#msg1187220 date=1286121849]
I'd take Rafa back with open arms right now. What a shit thread this is.
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I wouldn't, they can both fuck off.
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This ^^

I hated benitez for fucking us over, and i stuck up for roy giving him a chance but i cant anymore, these results are fucking pathetic
 
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
 
For the record I want to publicly disassociate myself from this Mac who I suspect is not a member of the Professoriad.
 
I believe Professor_mac is a professor at the University of the South Pacific. He is entitled to use that title because he paid $10 for it by Paypal. ;D
 
[quote author=Professor_mac link=topic=42123.msg1187157#msg1187157 date=1286121214]
i read people blamin roy, sure he may not be the right man BUT PLEASE look at the team/squad. he inherited. if i was an an inter fan id be shit scared.
kuyt - no skill work hard player
jovanvic - kuyt mark 2. willing runner but lacking in skill or vision
johnson - 18 mill? fuckin hell
lucas - fuckin hell
carra - past it?
ngog - hasnt done it
poulsen - people blame roy for this but that fuckwit eduardo macia was behind this transfer.
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We were beaten by blackpool. All those players you mentioned above would easily get into their squad. Again, we were beaten by Blackpool!!
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=42123.msg1187922#msg1187922 date=1286174635]
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
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I couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. For one thing his departure came after Hillsborough, a one-off reason if ever there was one. For another, the very fact of his appointment would have lifted a big part of the gloom surrounding the club before Roy even arrived. Last but not least, I'm confident that the squad - which is not good enough to take us back to the top, but not relegation fodder either - would have performed a lot better for the King and that our league position would have been correspondingly higher.
 
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[quote author=Portly link=topic=42123.msg1187922#msg1187922 date=1286174635]
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
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I couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. For one thing his departure came after Hillsborough, a one-off reason if ever there was one. For another, the very fact of his appointment would have lifted a big part of the gloom surrounding the club before Roy even arrived. Last but not least, I'm confident that the squad - which is not good enough to take us back to the top, but not relegation fodder either - would have performed a lot better for the King and that our league position would have been correspondingly higher.
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Completely agree with this - Dalglish is now the only option, and I dont believe we would be in this state if he had been given the job.

That's not to say that Hodgson has fucked it up all on his own, rather that he has come in to a very difficult situation, and failed miserably to negotiate the trials and tribulations of a job of this magnitude.

Even if youre the standout, A1, choice for the job it can happen - when youre the only taker after some spectacularly average options have already distanced themselves from the job you definitely need to get off to a good start. He hasnt. The writings on the wall.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=42123.msg1187922#msg1187922 date=1286174635]
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
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I can't believe this post
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=42123.msg1188021#msg1188021 date=1286184820]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=42123.msg1187922#msg1187922 date=1286174635]
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
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I can't believe this post
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It's terrible.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=42123.msg1187922#msg1187922 date=1286174635]
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
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you serious?
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42123.msg1187231#msg1187231 date=1286121990]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42123.msg1187220#msg1187220 date=1286121849]
I'd take Rafa back with open arms right now. What a shit thread this is.
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You're the first of what will become many.
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As long as he brought his £5m back with him.
 
[quote author=Dee link=topic=42123.msg1188042#msg1188042 date=1286186492]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42123.msg1187231#msg1187231 date=1286121990]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42123.msg1187220#msg1187220 date=1286121849]
I'd take Rafa back with open arms right now. What a shit thread this is.
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You're the first of what will become many.
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As long as he brought his £5m back with him.
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When we sack Roy, will he get stick for pocketing his Millions? Did Houllier when he and his staff got over 10 Million and Evans and Souness?

You'd think Rafa took it from the safe the way some people talk
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=42123.msg1187922#msg1187922 date=1286174635]
Whoever Professor_Mac may be, I agree with everything he says. Hodgson is taking the blame, but it was Rafa who ran down our squad to its current sorry state.

If Kenny Dalglish had been appointed manager, he would be gone by now, because one thing he proved for certain during his managerial career is that he cannot handle stress.
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Benitez left Hodgson with essentially the same squad that finished 2nd in the League minus Alonso, Hypia & Arbeloa, replaced with Johnson, The Greek & Acquilani, which then finished 7th.

Hodgson's impact and changes have us sitting in 18th, the onlt League win being a scrappy 1-0 home victory over the mighty West Bromich Albion.
 
Benitez left Hodgson with essentially the same squad that finished 2nd in the League minus Alonso, Hypia & Arbeloa, replaced with Johnson, The Greek & Acquilani, which then finished 7th.

Hodgson's impact and changes have us sitting in 18th, the onlt League win being a scrappy 1-0 home victory over the mighty West Bromich Albion.
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And our worst start for nearly 6 decades. But it's all Rafa's fault.
 
Don't forget that Mascherano is overrated and Roy was right to replace him with a cheap experienced alternative and spunk the rest of the money away on an attacking midfielder that plays in the same position that Cole was promised (who Roy signed). Thankfully Roy had a plan for that and decided to play the central midfielder on the wing.

Roy was been a complete twat so far.
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42123.msg1188117#msg1188117 date=1286190557]
Don't forget that Mascherano is overrated and Roy was right to replace him with a cheap experienced alternative and spunk the rest of the money away on an attacking midfielder that plays in the same position that Cole was promised (who Roy signed). Thankfully Roy had a plan for that and decided to play the central midfielder on the wing.

Roy was been a complete twat so far.
[/quote]Yup. All those things he was supposed to take a sensible pragmatic decision on he's fucked up completely. He's like that fast show 'oh bugger' character.
'Rrrright off to the game, knowing my luck I'll fuughet to play our centre midfielder in the middle and we'll lose to blackpool'

'Oh buggher'
 
The worst bit for me is... all this time I thought he was only messing, being savvy, avoiding limelight. I'm THAT thick.
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=42123.msg1188121#msg1188121 date=1286190988]
The worst bit for me is... all this time I thought he was only messing, being savvy, avoiding limelight. I'm THAT thick.
[/quote]Haha me too.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42123.msg1188122#msg1188122 date=1286191095]
[quote author=crump link=topic=42123.msg1188121#msg1188121 date=1286190988]
The worst bit for me is... all this time I thought he was only messing, being savvy, avoiding limelight. I'm THAT thick.
[/quote]Haha me too.
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It was when I realised I'd been self-duped, about a week ago, I changed my avatar to suit the mood.

This is what my Sheffield Wednesday mate just said:

i see similarities with our situation, the manager seems to be out of his depth at a 'big' club due to his negative outlook on football. the 'avoid losing' mentality instead of 'try to win' being employed by us in league one or liverpool fc in general is criminal. both managers seem obsessed with stopping the opposition playing instead of aiming to impose swfc/lfc's will on said opposition.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42123.msg1188119#msg1188119 date=1286190808]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42123.msg1188117#msg1188117 date=1286190557]
Don't forget that Mascherano is overrated and Roy was right to replace him with a cheap experienced alternative and spunk the rest of the money away on an attacking midfielder that plays in the same position that Cole was promised (who Roy signed). Thankfully Roy had a plan for that and decided to play the central midfielder on the wing.

Roy was been a complete twat so far.
[/quote]Yup. All those things he was supposed to take a sensible pragmatic decision on he's fucked up completely. He's like that fast show 'oh bugger' character.
'Rrrright off to the game, knowing my luck I'll fuughet to play our centre midfielder in the middle and we'll lose to blackpool'

'Oh buggher'
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I think I hate him. I've never hated any Liverpool manager before (although Ged got on my nerves) and I don't like it.
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42123.msg1188117#msg1188117 date=1286190557]
Don't forget that Mascherano is overrated and Roy was right to replace him with a cheap experienced alternative and spunk the rest of the money away on an attacking midfielder that plays in the same position that Cole was promised (who Roy signed). Thankfully Roy had a plan for that and decided to play the central midfielder on the wing.

Roy was been a complete twat so far.
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all we need is lucas to play on the left side of midfield to have 4 CM across the park. genius, the opposition will never break us down then.
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42123.msg1188125#msg1188125 date=1286191236]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42123.msg1188119#msg1188119 date=1286190808]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42123.msg1188117#msg1188117 date=1286190557]
Don't forget that Mascherano is overrated and Roy was right to replace him with a cheap experienced alternative and spunk the rest of the money away on an attacking midfielder that plays in the same position that Cole was promised (who Roy signed). Thankfully Roy had a plan for that and decided to play the central midfielder on the wing.

Roy was been a complete twat so far.
[/quote]Yup. All those things he was supposed to take a sensible pragmatic decision on he's fucked up completely. He's like that fast show 'oh bugger' character.
'Rrrright off to the game, knowing my luck I'll fuughet to play our centre midfielder in the middle and we'll lose to blackpool'

'Oh buggher'
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I think I hate him. I've never hated any Liverpool manager before (although Ged got on my nerves) and I don't like it.
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I've never 'actively' wanted a manager out in all my years as a liverpool support, NEVER, until now.
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=42123.msg1188124#msg1188124 date=1286191185]
i see similarities with our situation, the manager seems to be out of his depth at a 'big' club due to his negative outlook on football. the 'avoid losing' mentality instead of 'try to win' being employed by us in league one or liverpool fc in general is criminal. both managers seem obsessed with stopping the opposition playing instead of aiming to impose swfc/lfc's will on said opposition.

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The worst thing is that he is failing so miserably, we are failing to stop the opposition playing and our midfield is being dominated.
 
Yup. All those things he was supposed to take a sensible pragmatic decision on he's fucked up completely. He's like that fast show 'oh bugger' character.
'Rrrright off to the game, knowing my luck I'll fuughet to play our centre midfielder in the middle and we'll lose to blackpool'

'Oh buggher'
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Hahahaha!
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=42123.msg1188124#msg1188124 date=1286191185]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42123.msg1188122#msg1188122 date=1286191095]
[quote author=crump link=topic=42123.msg1188121#msg1188121 date=1286190988]
The worst bit for me is... all this time I thought he was only messing, being savvy, avoiding limelight. I'm THAT thick.
[/quote]Haha me too.
[/quote]

It was when I realised I'd been self-duped, about a week ago, I changed my avatar to suit the mood.

This is what my Sheffield Wednesday mate just said:

i see similarities with our situation, the manager seems to be out of his depth at a 'big' club due to his negative outlook on football. the 'avoid losing' mentality instead of 'try to win' being employed by us in league one or liverpool fc in general is criminal. both managers seem obsessed with stopping the opposition playing instead of aiming to impose swfc/lfc's will on said opposition.

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Get him to sign up here. Respectful fans of other teams are always welcome and your friend seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
 
how many times did I say careful what you wish for when some of you jokers were spouting bile about Benitez.

I really can't believe some of you can show your face on message boards.

Actually I can. A lot of our fans are utter, utter disgraces.

I cannot believe what is happening to LFC.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=42123.msg1188519#msg1188519 date=1286213323]
how many times did I say careful what you wish for when some of you jokers were spouting bile about Benitez.

I really can't believe some of you can show your face on message boards.

Actually I can. A lot of our fans are utter, utter disgraces.

I cannot believe what is happening to LFC.


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He didn't deserve abuse Rebel, but don't get all fucking high and mighty about it, last season (and a couple of his others) were fucking tragic.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42123.msg1188521#msg1188521 date=1286213613]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=42123.msg1188519#msg1188519 date=1286213323]
how many times did I say careful what you wish for when some of you jokers were spouting bile about Benitez.

I really can't believe some of you can show your face on message boards.

Actually I can. A lot of our fans are utter, utter disgraces.

I cannot believe what is happening to LFC.


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He didn't deserve abuse Rebel, but don't get all fucking high and mighty about it, last season (and a couple of his others) were fucking tragic.
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it was not tragic at all, a mere blip which he would have sorted out. This is fucking tragic.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=42123.msg1188526#msg1188526 date=1286213689]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42123.msg1188521#msg1188521 date=1286213613]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=42123.msg1188519#msg1188519 date=1286213323]
how many times did I say careful what you wish for when some of you jokers were spouting bile about Benitez.

I really can't believe some of you can show your face on message boards.

Actually I can. A lot of our fans are utter, utter disgraces.

I cannot believe what is happening to LFC.


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He didn't deserve abuse Rebel, but don't get all fucking high and mighty about it, last season (and a couple of his others) were fucking tragic.
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it was not tragic at all, a mere blip which he would have sorted out. This is fucking tragic.


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It wasn't a mere blip, the signs were there all through his tenure, he made mistakes and repeatedly failed to learn from them, and he squandered £80m in two seasons on DROSS.
 
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