Big D vs Twitter

[StevieM]

So with that full statement, is where you are at "stop it, think of the children, and just stop now for the love of god, stop looking for and talking about fraud" or is it "hmm let me wait until the vote data is analysed, and in the meantime I'll pay more attention to the analysis of the publicly available vote data which the autistics scraped off websites".

I’ll stick where I was 80 odd pages and a month ago - no evidence of systemic voter fraud.

I could have added “to date” for Ross and your benefit - and it would have been the same today - pretty much confirmed by the US Attorney General.

Look... feel free to keep clutching at straws, believing that some Trump supporter with a copy of Excel has cracked the Divinci Code or something (maybe he should have sent the info to the Attorney General instead of Rudi Giuliani - Barr hasn’t seen it “AS YET” maybe???).

You know it’s all bollocks - of course you do.

 

[Farkmaster]

I see he's raked in $150 million by telling the red pilled he's been cheated. Pretty funny really.

Yeah, but now that he knows how easy this PT Barnum shit is, he's going to fucking run again so he has an excuse to fundraise.

 

[StevieM]

That's less than $2 per voter. Tight bastards.

You’d thing they’d stump up more to avoid that $20k-$30k extra tax they’ll be paying soon...

 

[dantes]

I’ll stick where I was 80 odd pages and a month ago - no evidence of systemic voter fraud.

I could have added “to date” for Ross and your benefit - and it would have been the same today - pretty much confirmed by the US Attorney General.

Look... feel free to keep clutching at straws, believing that some Trump supporter with a copy of Excel has cracked the Divinci Code or something (maybe he should have sent the info to the Attorney General instead of Rudi Giuliani - Barr hasn’t seen it “AS YET” maybe???).

You know it’s all bollocks - of course you do.

Haha as if I wouldn't notice how you've quietly added the qualifier of "systemic" in there.

What I know is mail in ballots were sent out by the millions, then democrat volunteers went around collecting as may as they can like something out of the crystal maze. The same way you would bemoan voter suppression by the right, this is voter exaggeration. Nothing illegal about either tactic. However, the result of the election is down to the democrats exaggerating more votes than the republicans could suppress. It's bullshit in other words. The will of the people had there been a democratic election, is pretty obvious from the turnouts at the rallies. The only way to bring that about now is through the courts or through bloodshed.

 

[dantes]

Biden won:

 

[Farkmaster]

Biden won:

Hi Dantes, what was it like being in a temporal anomaly?

 

[Woland]

. The will of the people had there been a democratic election, is pretty obvious from the turnouts at the rallies.

Do you think Corbyn won too?

 

[dantes]

Do you think Corbyn won too?

Interesting question. No, both candidates were viewed with disdain by their own voter base. I think of it like boxing. You have both fighters are juiced up to their eyeballs. Both have haggled over the gloves and ringwalks to get every silly advantage they can, appointed corrupt judges, both hit the other with dirty shots in the clinch. It's bullshit passing itself off as the gentleman's duel of old. But you can usually suspend your disbelief and say the better man won in the end.

But with mass mail in ballots, you've just handed Biden a baseball bat this time, and that corrupt son of a bitch didn't hesitate to swing it. Now there is no suspension of disbelief, Biden isn't a better boxer than Trump, he just had a baseball bat, and it's very weird to me that people celebrate his win as if he proved himself to be the better boxer. I don't understand what planet they live on, and just put it down to them not thinking about things mathematically the way I do.

 

[dantes]

If you follow the court cases, the ones trying to get injunctions based on a technicality rather than fraud, the main argument was around the "equal protection clause", where voters have a right to be treated equally. The evidence was voters in democrat precincts were given better treatment, as in door to door service of collecting and curing their ballots for mistakes. Republican precincts did not get such treatment. The implications are obvious for the election.

The defence to that argument was that is not the fault of the democrats, you should sue republican counties for not going door to door. The court accepted that interpretation of equal protection and dismissed the lawsuit. Then you have morons like Hansern who count is as 2-35 now, see no ethidence of fraud, no ethidence.

 

[Farkmaster]

BLM protests dwarfed Trumps rallies. It was one of the most broad demonstrations in American history. It's odd you are puzzled that a historic amount of voters absolutely hated trump, even if they aren't that arsed about Biden.

 

[Frogfish]

Trump said there was fraud, he's then gathered witnesses, gathered data, employed lawyers and analysts, and whistleblowers, court cases, hearings before senators, statistical anomalies, paper trails. That's no longer whining, he's gone and done something about it. The other side are repeatedly saying to stop it, stop doing that, stop, think of the children, we need unity wah wah wah. That's whining. If Trump was a dick, he could just say "go on then, make me..." and there'd be zero action to make him stop. So it's pure whining.

That's the alternative version as told to Trumsters to get them to part with their money.

The REAL version :

Trump said there was fraud, he's then gathered liars, beggars, whores and thieves, invented data, employed snake charmers and Qanon analysts, and faux whistleblowers who would do anything for a minute in the limelight, he got laughed out of a plethora of court cases, called hearings that senators ignored, chased unsubstantiated and mathematically refuted irrelevant statistical anomalies, and has failed time and time again to find any incriminating paper trail (because there isn't one). All whilst whining his goddamn head off ... I won ! I won ! And hiding himself away to sulk on his golf course. In other words he totally failed to find absolutely anything systemic and lied until his nose reached epic proportions (adding to the 16,000+ lies he's told, according to fact checkers, over the past 4 years).

The other side have joined the rest of the world in laughing their absolute balls off !

 

[dantes]

BLM protests dwarfed Trumps rallies. It was one of the most broad demonstrations in American history. It's odd you are puzzled that a historic amount of voters absolutely hated trump, even if they aren't that arsed about Biden.

Maybe in media coverage and duration. Not in turnout.

 

[Hyena]

The level this has descended to.

"Trump had bigger rallies so he must have won"

It's like arguing that Barcelona had more possession.

 

[jon545660]

count is as 2-35 now.

It's 1-39 dude

 

[Farkmaster]

Maybe in media coverage and duration. Not in turnout.

Yes, in turnout.

 

[Woland]

Makes you think

 

[StevieM]

Haha as if I wouldn't notice how you've quietly added the qualifier of "systemic" in there.

What I know is mail in ballots were sent out by the millions, then democrat volunteers went around collecting as may as they can like something out of the crystal maze. The same way you would bemoan voter suppression by the right, this is voter exaggeration. Nothing illegal about either tactic. However, the result of the election is down to the democrats exaggerating more votes than the republicans could suppress. It's bullshit in other words. The will of the people had there been a democratic election, is pretty obvious from the turnouts at the rallies. The only way to bring that about now is through the courts or through bloodshed.

No Dantes - it was the phrase I used a month ago :

....
There’s no evidence of systemic voter fraud, but that doesn’t matter to Trump - as usual he’ll just lie, make some noise, threaten to sue, throw a tantrum, lie some more and then do as much damage as he can before being removed... and then lie about it.
.....

 

[StevieM]

So where we’re at.

Ross & Dantes are basically doing their own little amateur production of Waiting for Godot.

I don’t want to spoil the ending.... but... pretty sure you can guess what happens.

Dantes is now effectively arguing that because Trump has bigger rallies - he should have won - this is what “clutching at something” looks like when all the straws are gone.

Added to that is the little slip from Dantes that the Democratic crafts didn’t do anything illegal - they were just better at working the system and outflanked Trump - in a way similar to how he manage to bear Clinton 4 years ago.

The US election processes are decentralised with different regulations and practices in each state and you only have to target specific areas in specific states to swing that state.

But that’s always the way it’s been - so complaining because the result didn’t go the way Trump’s ego wanted it to go doesn’t make the result invalid.

In 10 years time when Willian Barr “AS YET” still has not uncovered evidence of enough voter fraud to change the outcome - that will continue to not matter either.

 

[tomasjj]

Has he pardoned dantes and Ross yet?

 

[StevieM]

Trump would probably pardon Hunter Biden if he thought it’d get him immunity.

 

[dantes]

So where we’re at.

Ross & Dantes are basically doing their own little amateur production of Waiting for Godot.

I don’t want to spoil the ending.... but... pretty sure you can guess what happens.

Dantes is now effectively arguing that because Trump has bigger rallies - he should have won - this is what “clutching at something” looks like when all the straws are gone.

Added to that is the little slip from Dantes that the Democratic crafts didn’t do anything illegal - they were just better at working the system and outflanked Trump - in a way similar to how he manage to bear Clinton 4 years ago.

The US election processes are decentralised with different regulations and practices in each state and you only have to target specific areas in specific states to swing that state.

But that’s always the way it’s been - so complaining because the result didn’t go the way Trump’s ego wanted it to go doesn’t make the result invalid.

In 10 years time when Willian Barr “AS YET” still has not uncovered evidence of enough voter fraud to change the outcome - that will continue to not matter either.

Where we were at is I asked you simple yes or no question this morning. You went off on a delusional tirade I guess to avoid giving an answer that would be hypocritical.

I've responded to the bits of your delusional tirade that I could understand. Now you think I'm effectively reduced to arguing on it. Uh I was arguing those things because you couldn't answer the question.

And I hate to criticise your reading comprehension again, but the thing I said was perfectly legal is ballot harvesting. That is not a synonym for the democrats did nothing illegal.

 

[StevieM]

Where we were at is I asked you simple yes or no question this morning. You went off on a delusional tirade I guess to avoid giving an answer that would be hypocritical.

I've responded to the bits of your delusional tirade that I could understand. Now you think I'm effectively reduced to arguing on it. Uh I was arguing those things because you couldn't answer the question.

And I hate to criticise your reading comprehension again, but the thing I said was perfectly legal is ballot harvesting. That is not a synonym for the democrats did nothing illegal.

Of course you can’t prove there’s no voter fraud - there’s fraud in every election of some sort.

All you can prove is that what fraud existed was not systemic and not significant to affect the outcome - either way and where we’re at is a lot of made up claims of fraud that fall apart at the merest bit of scrutiny, allied to a fishing exercise that has, SO FAR, uncovered zilch” and increasingly looks likely to uncover zilch.

Unlike, say 2004, when you could argue that there was fraud that affected the end outcome of the election - but that’s history now.

I was trying to inject a bit of fun - I don’t really think you’re Greta and I have no children or hair of my own for you to braid.

You’re always welcome to come over for a bottle of wine as long as you promise not to skin me and wear me as a coat.

 

[Frogfish]

Makes you think

What the actual fuck ? Can I have my 1.5 mins back please ? Some people are just absolutely of unsound mind, as we know with certain individuals on this forum. I could see them thriving in a post apocalyptic world however, as Gary Oldman (or the old cannibalistic couple) in The Book of Eli.

 

[Frogfish]

Maybe in media coverage and duration. Not in turnout.

So, as a percentage of the American voters, what do these rally attending people represent then? Does it even reach above 0.1% ?

 

[Frogfish]

So where we’re at.

Ross & Dantes are basically doing their own little amateur production of Waiting for Godot.

I don’t want to spoil the ending.... but... pretty sure you can guess what happens.

Dantes is now effectively arguing that because Trump has bigger rallies - he should have won - this is what “clutching at something” looks like when all the straws are gone.

Added to that is the little slip from Dantes that the Democratic crafts didn’t do anything illegal - they were just better at working the system and outflanked Trump - in a way similar to how he manage to bear Clinton 4 years ago.

The US election processes are decentralised with different regulations and practices in each state and you only have to target specific areas in specific states to swing that state.

But that’s always the way it’s been - so complaining because the result didn’t go the way Trump’s ego wanted it to go doesn’t make the result invalid.

In 10 years time when Willian Barr “AS YET” still has not uncovered evidence of enough voter fraud to change the outcome - that will continue to not matter either.

Aren't the Republican party famous for their gerrymandering? Isn't that how they beat Clinton?

 

[Frogfish]

Has he pardoned dantes and Ross yet?

Not going to happen, they've nothing to bribe him with.

 

[Hyena]

Your comprehension skills are lacking.
"to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."

Imagine going before a judge and saying "to date, we have no evidence that the defendant did anything that caused my client loss"

It's as clear a concession as you can make. Every lawyer knows this.

 

[Grjt2]

Dantes going for the “delusional tirade” jibe. Zero irony. None. 😉

 

[jon545660]

Finally some mass voter fraud that will stand up in court:

 

[Frogfish]

Senator Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican and close ally of President Donald Trump, reportedly described the president as an "a**hole" and admitted President-elect Joe Biden won the election about three weeks ago, a former Wisconsin Republican official said.

According to Mark Becker—a former Brown County supervisor and former chairman of the Republican Party there—the senator told him privately on a call three weeks ago that he accepted Biden's victory. Becker said Johnson told him that "yes, Donald Trump is an asshole" but argued it would be "political suicide" for him to go against the president. Johnson reportedly told Becker that Trump had inspired significant voter turnout and that the views of those voters are important to consider.