Big D vs Twitter

[ibromurph]

I only care about my work, followed by the wealth and health of all other sentient life. The only thing a president does which effects those things, Big D does correctly. Noone else has or likely will ever get that correct. That's it. Not rocket science.

While you puke at the thought of Trump using a biased justice he installed to retain his position, I couldn't care less. You can show me concrete proof he has lost fair and square, in my mind the only moral thing to do is lie to win, I'd even kill Biden to win. Needs of the many.

Well at least you're honest about your bias.

Like you said.. you only care about yourself (basically). And Trump serves your interests well. Fair enough.

I'm sure there were blue-eyed, blonde-haired folk who thought Hitler was a smashing fella too. He served their interests well enough. Some entertaining speeches no doubt too.

All I ask from folk, from you, from both sides, is a bit of honesty and some nuance. You should be able to admit that Trump serves your interest but is a bit of a lunatic, a liar and very sore loser. Like the other side should be able to admit that Biden serves their interests best but yet is a bit senile, low-engergy, also a liar and has done some horrific things against blacks (with his crime bill).

 

[dantes]

Well at least you're honest about your bias.

Like you said.. you only care about yourself (basically). And Trump serves your interests well. Fair enough.

I'm sure there were blue-eyed, blonde-haired folk who thought Hitler was a smashing fella too. He served their interests well enough. Some entertaining speeches no doubt too.

All I ask from folk, from you, from both sides, is a bit of honesty and some nuance. You should be able to admit that Trump serves your interest but is a bit of a lunatic, a liar and very sore loser. Like the other side should be able to admit that Biden serves their interests best but yet is a bit senile, low-engergy, also a liar and has done some horrific things against blacks (with his crime bill).

If you were running against Hitler, lost, and then tried to fight the result... Imagine people calling you a sore loser and treating you the way the news just treated trump.

In his mind he is on the side of the American worker, which he said himself. He isn't wrong about that, and he isn't wrong to fight the result for them. I'm not having to warp my brain with that much bias to support him.

 

[StevieM]

I bet you believe he colluded with Russia

And you have verifiable evidence that he didn’t collude with Russia?

The first where it was an option for everyone, hence "mass mail in voting". This could have been used any time before now, and you're all dancing around the reason it has not been.

34% in the last Election in 2016 - up to 68% cast their votes early - which includes postal votes.

Look I know Big D would prefer that only votes for him are counted at all... but that’s not the way things work.

 

[dantes]

MSNBC literally cut him off with some paedophile rapist anchor explaining to the people that there is "no evidence" for Trumps claims, at which point I determined that there was no viable way to kill this fucking guy through a live stream, so I turned it off and found an alternative source.

Do you not see how ludicrous it is that the news won't even let people hear words, either they are turning full CCP or they think the American worker is that fucking stupid they need to be told what to think. It's sickening. How anyone can nod along to their bullshit and not see the consequences upon their actual wealth and health is beyond me.

 

[dantes]

And you have verifiable evidence that he didn’t collude with Russia?


34% in the last Election in 2016 - up to 68% cast their votes early - which includes postal votes.

Look I know Big D would prefer that only votes for him are counted at all... but that’s not the way things work.

If you think things 'work', you ain't been paying attention to the western world.

 

[StevieM]

So moving on, why do you not share the same concerns as the "vast majority of countries" for this particular election? I'll wait

I can organise a mail in vote in Australia if I can’t make the polls.L - I mean I don’t get a vote because I haven’t taken out citizenship - but I could - and I’m sure if Australia had a general election in the middle of a pandemic people would be encouraged to vote from home rather than in person.

In fact they’d be fined if they didn’t vote.

Pretty sure I can do a mail in vote for the UK - although what sort of pigs arse Boris would cone with for voting in a pandemic is anyone’s guess.

 

[dantes]

Let's do the math again. Prior to this election there was a 70% chance of mass mail votes leading to fraud. That's a conservative definition of vast majority. So if you go that route, there is a 30% chance it is fair.

The position of everyone is you have no evidence it is unfair. These people are thick idiots. There is also no evidence that is was fair. So what should your position be given the 70:30 odds? Yet the fake news are portraying trump as a delusional sore loser. The evidence will be out before the courts, and they will decide. I for one hope that it drags on for a long long long time to piss off the fake news and dumb people who are defying the existence of probability.

 

[ibromurph]

If you were running against Hitler, lost, and then tried to fight the result... Imagine people calling you a sore loser and treating you the way the news just treated trump.

In his mind he is on the side of the American worker, which he said himself. He isn't wrong about that, and he isn't wrong to fight the result for them. I'm not having to warp my brain with that much bias to support him.

Problem is, you're actually supporting Hitler in this analogy, and saying he's on side of the German worker, which he was.

Good people looked away when Hitler was doing all sorts of madness to Jewish people too, in the name of German prosperity.

So you might not have to warp you brain that much, but you're certainly looking away and "following orders". (for your own interests)

 

[StevieM]

If you were running against Hitler, lost, and then tried to fight the result... Imagine people calling you a sore loser and treating you the way the news just treated trump.

In his mind he is on the side of the American worker, which he said himself. He isn't wrong about that, and he isn't wrong to fight the result for them. I'm not having to warp my brain with that much bias to support him.

Now imagine you ran against Hitler and won.

All of a sudden, Hitler starts losing his shit and him & Goebbels start wanging on about voter fraud and how they’re going to refer it all to a bunch of 9 judges - 3 of which Hitler appointed.

Fun times

 

[ibromurph]

Let's do the math again. Prior to this election there was a 70% chance of mass mail votes leading to fraud. That's a conservative definition of vast majority. So if you go that route, there is a 30% chance it is fair.

The position of everyone is you have no evidence it is unfair. These people are thick idiots. There is also no evidence that is was fair. So what should your position be given the 70:30 odds? Yet the fake news are portraying trump as a delusional sore loser. The evidence will be out before the courts, and they will decide. I for one hope that it drags on for a long long long time to piss off the fake news and dumb people who are defying the existence of probability.

When Fox News are distancing themselves from it and a lot of prominent Republicans (including Mitch Mc) are distancing themselves from Trump's claims, you have to wonder why they're not sticking their neck out if it was sooooo obvious.

The 70:30 likelihood seems to be a number you've plucked from thin air (or some Trump stan) to prove your point.

 

[StevieM]

MSNBC literally cut him off with some paedophile rapist anchor explaining to the people that there is "no evidence" for Trumps claims, at which point I determined that there was no viable way to kill this fucking guy through a live stream, so I turned it off and found an alternative source.

Do you not see how ludicrous it is that the news won't even let people hear words, either they are turning full CCP or they think the American worker is that fucking stupid they need to be told what to think. It's sickening. How anyone can nod along to their bullshit and not see the consequences upon their actual wealth and health is beyond me.

He should be pulled up and fact checked every time he lies - as should Biden.

 

[StevieM]

Let's do the math again. Prior to this election there was a 70% chance of mass mail votes leading to fraud. That's a conservative definition of vast majority. So if you go that route, there is a 30% chance it is fair.

The position of everyone is you have no evidence it is unfair. These people are thick idiots. There is also no evidence that is was fair. So what should your position be given the 70:30 odds? Yet the fake news are portraying trump as a delusional sore loser. The evidence will be out before the courts, and they will decide. I for one hope that it drags on for a long long long time to piss off the fake news and dumb people who are defying the existence of probability.

You made up that 70% number didn’t you.

 

[ibromurph]

He should be pulled up and fact checked every time he lies - as should Biden.

Every debate, both should have been fact-checked. On the spot.

Liars have a hard time with consistency.

 

[StevieM]

If you think things 'work', you ain't been paying attention to the western world.

I dunno mate - The Lying Rag still came up this morning and I’m still beavering away trying to find ways to sell cheap plonk to the masses.

Seems similar to last year but without the commute.

 

[StevieM]

Federal Judge has stopped Trump’s motion to stop ballot counting in Philadelphia forvthe 3rd time.

I guess the Federal Judges are in on it as well now.

 

[kingjulian]

If the votes were mailed in before the end of election and that postal ballot is an acceptable form of registering the vote by the constitution, then how on earth can the judicial system stop the vote counting?

They need to pass an amendment first to change the constitution before judge can consider such a plea, but it is too late for that now.

Makes me want to question the qualification of certain people though it is not my place to do so...

 

[Hyena]

It's like Barcelona trying to stop the game at half time.

 

[Hyena]

In Trump's mind, votes are like the Coronavirus. If you don't count them they don't exist.

You can take that attitude to life but that's how 200,000 people died.

 

[rurikbird]

Every “voter fraud” conspiracy debunked:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1324435797374808066.html

 

[rurikbird]

Georgia is about to flip Blue and call the election for Biden (at least according to 2 networks who have already called Arizona). Pennsylvania not far behind.

 

[Holle]

This tells you all you need to know.

 

[Athens]

That's the type of answer that would land you in contempt of court.

I would just use the well known legal defence of "ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer" and the judge would say "ooh, he got you there".

 

[Rosco]

I have heard that "STOP THE COUNT" is trending on twitter.
What the fuck have I done?
😗

 

[Rosco]

Re Ross point is it appropriate re Pelosi..
Good point if true, agree it maybe isn't appropriate.. is it illegal? Does she have influence over it?
You'd image if it was an issue there's be some public eyebrows raised.

It's similar here though, there was all this stuff about Nadeem Zahawi being owner of a polling comp and then the issue that created.. doubt he has some kinda influence on it.. and if he did well there's others to pick from go ahead.

There's been issues re the counting before heck it's hundreds of millions of votes there's gonna be some issues...doesn't mean there's some underhanded counted going on.

See this is the problem. You can go and verify that she does own 50%.

You shouldn't have expect that there would be controversy over this if it was true. It is true.

The question is why the media has not mentioned it.

 

[dantes]

Problem is, you're actually supporting Hitler in this analogy, and saying he's on side of the German worker, which he was.

Good people looked away when Hitler was doing all sorts of madness to Jewish people too, in the name of German prosperity.

So you might not have to warp you brain that much, but you're certainly looking away and "following orders". (for your own interests)

In one case genocide outweighs the German worker. In the other case the American worker outweighs lies and feelings.

I'm on the right side of the analogy. You have the stakes back to front.

 

[dantes]

You made up that 70% number didn’t you.

You were incapable of grasping basic probability using words. So I turned the word "vast majority" into a simple round number to try to get the point across to you. It failed. Would you like a udemy course suggestion?

 

[Rosco]

And they sounded equally as deluded when they did it.

I'm not sure I believe that. The FBI did investigate for years , I'm just fairly certain nobody cares about the outcome of the investigation

 

[Rosco]

And you have verifiable evidence that he didn’t collude with Russia?


34% in the last Election in 2016 - up to 68% cast their votes early - which includes postal votes.

Look I know Big D would prefer that only votes for him are counted at all... but that’s not the way things work.

See Ibro, look at this fucking idiot.

 

[Frogfish]

If you were running against Hitler, lost, and then tried to fight the result... Imagine people calling you a sore loser and treating you the way the news just treated trump.

In his mind he is on the side of the American worker, which he said himself. He isn't wrong about that, and he isn't wrong to fight the result for them. I'm not having to warp my brain with that much bias to support him.

This article from the Guardian hits the nail on the head regarding Trump/Trumpism.

Narcissists see what they want to see. What makes Trump more unusual is that an astonishing number of people see what they want to see when they look at him..................

It’s strangely apt that such a raging narcissist should function as a distorted mirror to so many, one in which they see their own fantasies reflected back at them. Whether he actually is a billionaire or not has never been important: since the 1980s he has presented himself as the cartoon image of one and people see what they want to see.
His white working-class supporters saw in him their own aggrievement at not being accepted by elites who rigged the game; the elites saw a fellow plutocrat who would protect their fortunes. Before this election I often heard people talk anxiously about how, even if Trump lost, “Trumpism” wouldn’t go away.

But what even is Trumpism? The man has never had any moral code beyond closing the deal, and these days barely seems capable of maintaining a thought to the end of a sentence: the idea that he has the desire let alone the wherewithal to construct an ideology is like assuming that monkey on the typewriter is writing Hamlet. Read any thinkpiece and “Trumpism” is boiled down to nativism, showmanship and lying, all of which can be more accurately summed up as “being a racist grifter”.

 

[StevieM]

See this is the problem. You can go and verify that she does own 50%.

You shouldn't have expect that there would be controversy over this if it was true. It is true.

The question is why the media has not mentioned it.

Is this like that time when we had a Tayto Cheese & Onion Taste-off in the Porterhouse pub and an independent adjudicator who was not from any part of the UK or Ireland determined that Northern Tayto was superior in taste and flavour to the southern muck.

It was totally irrelevant that, at the time, she was my other half.

The decision still stands to this day and was the correct one.