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I'm not missing the point at all. You're making my point - you're finding excuses to minimise the evidence of Bidens corruption because you simply don't care that he's corrupt.

He’s allegedly corrupt.

So is the current President.

If all things were equal - neither of them would get it.

But things aren’t - so which corrupt cunt is worse.

For the record - I think Biden’s useless - I hope he gets elected and impeached if his transgressions are proven.

And no - I’m not convinced by all the information- because I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you clearly do - that doesn’t mean I don’t think he has questions to answer - but it’s also fair to expect him to do the exact same thing as Trump would do - ignore, lie, obstruct, win the election then control the narrative.

This information isn’t being leaked for the benefit of the American people - it’s being leaked for the benefit of one person.

They’re both cunts... but one’s worse than the other and it’s not even close - and it isn’t Biden.
 
I’m not sure Hunter Biden being naked in front of a girl or getting his cock sucked by one actually has to do with Joe Biden’s ability to be President.

I mean.... really.... apart from Dantes... we’ve probably all been naked in front of a girl and may even have had our cock sucked from time to time - probably before those that got married did so...
 
I’m not sure Hunter Biden being naked in front of a girl or getting his cock sucked by one actually has to do with Joe Biden’s ability to be President.

I mean.... really.... apart from Dantes... we’ve probably all been naked in front of a girl and may even have had our cock sucked from time to time - probably before those that got married did so...

You seemed quite sure of making the necessary logical deductions a few days ago, when you were arguing on the basis of the laptop being a fake. Now that it's no longer a fake as you can see, you're suddenly unsure about what it all means. Your memory is worse than Joe's!
 
You seemed quite sure of making the necessary logical deductions a few days ago, when you were arguing on the basis of the laptop being a fake. Now that it's no longer a fake as you can see, you're suddenly unsure about what it all means. Your memory is worse than Joe's!

I don’t know whether it’s fake or not - I’ll wait for someone more substantial than Steve Bannon to confirm its contents.
 
You seemed quite sure of making the necessary logical deductions a few days ago, when you were arguing on the basis of the laptop being a fake. Now that it's no longer a fake as you can see, you're suddenly unsure about what it all means. Your memory is worse than Joe's!

I dont know if a laptop excists or not, but a few naked pictures of Hunter Biden doesnt prove anything about the allegded corruption.

As Stevie says, I’m sure Joe Biden has his skeletons in his locker but you can bet your ass their on a different scale to the cunt in charge now. Its not even close.

I have little to no interest in US politics, but I’m surprised that they couldnt find a better candidate. One who isnt 150 years old. With how poor Trump is handling the current crisis and the turmoil of the last 4 years. It should be a landslide tomorrow with the right candidate.
Biden will win though, but how Trump handles the defeat will be interesting to see.
It will be quite the shitshow.
 
Also.... for the record.

I’m not sure Biden’s winning this election.

I think it’s too close to call and the drama hasn’t even started.

My money’s still on Trump starting a war of have some sort of manufactured domestic terrorist event to avoid the transfer of power if it’s anywhere near close.

It’s all or nothing - Trump goes to jail if he loses.
 
I dont know if a laptop excists or not, but a few naked pictures of Hunter Biden doesnt prove anything about the allegded corruption.

As Stevie says, I’m sure Joe Biden has his skeletons in his locker but you can bet your ass their on a different scale to the cunt in charge now. Its not even close.

I have little to no interest in US politics, but I’m surprised that they couldnt find a better candidate. One who isnt 150 years old. With how poor Trump is handling the current crisis and the turmoil of the last 4 years. It should be a landslide tomorrow with the right candidate.
Biden will win though, but how Trump handles the defeat will be interesting to see.
It will be quite the shitshow.

Evidence for:
Multiple people say it exists
The repair shop guy says it
The intelligence service says it is not Russian disinformation
There is a physical receipt of it being dropped off
Multiple people describe the contents of the laptop
Emails from it have been disclosed
Pictures from it have been disclosed
One of the people in the email chain went on national tv and said it's real, and slammed Biden for throwing him under the russian disinformation bus
Text messages from the laptop have been disclosed
The fake news and the Biden's avoid reporting and answering any questions about it
Multiple sex tapes from it have been leaked
etc...

Evidence against:
You don't know if the laptop exists
 
Just coz the whole repair shop story doesn't stack up at all I'd guess various people with access to Hunter Biden's shit, or on the other end of it, sold it to Bannon or similar, who then created a bullshit laptop full of whatever they found and probs a load more stuff too. They say it isn't Russian disinformation, but not all disinformation is Russian.

Anyways, here's the real story

 
No wonder he looks like a re-animated corpse, hopefully they do the decent thing and bring in an exorcist after he loses.
 
I’m not sure Hunter Biden being naked in front of a girl or getting his cock sucked by one actually has to do with Joe Biden’s ability to be President.

I mean.... really.... apart from Dantes... we’ve probably all been naked in front of a girl and may even have had our cock sucked from time to time - probably before those that got married did so...

It doesn't. Which is why I pointed you in direction of the Ukrainian and Chinese dodginess that involves creep Joe
 
Just coz the whole repair shop story doesn't stack up at all I'd guess various people with access to Hunter Biden's shit, or on the other end of it, sold it to Bannon or similar, who then created a bullshit laptop full of whatever they found and probs a load more stuff too. They say it isn't Russian disinformation, but not all disinformation is Russian.

Anyways, here's the real story



Sounds like a conspiracy theory
 
I dont know if a laptop excists or not, but a few naked pictures of Hunter Biden doesnt prove anything about the allegded corruption.

As Stevie says, I’m sure Joe Biden has his skeletons in his locker but you can bet your ass their on a different scale to the cunt in charge now. Its not even close.

I have little to no interest in US politics, but I’m surprised that they couldnt find a better candidate. One who isnt 150 years old. With how poor Trump is handling the current crisis and the turmoil of the last 4 years. It should be a landslide tomorrow with the right candidate.
Biden will win though, but how Trump handles the defeat will be interesting to see.
It will be quite the shitshow.

So you haven't been following the story at all but you're still venturing an opinion on it. A poorly informed , stupid opinion.
 
Creepy Joe is a great nickname name.



How else would you describe him after that video ?


I'm not sure if any of the clips in that compilation are real, so I wouldn't know how to describe him. However, I know for sure that Trump has been far more creepy than Biden, it's not even close. Vote Biden!
 
And even then, I won't look at them because they couldn't possibly change my opinion.

Only a fool would let facts change their opinion
 
And even then, I won't look at them because they couldn't possibly change my opinion.

Only a fool would let facts change their opinion

Nor should someone be fooled by selective facts.
 
Nor should someone be fooled by selective facts.

You're allowing yourself to be fooled by selected polls and news stories designed to make creepy joe look like the favourite. The important objective fact is that in every state, 50,000 people turn up to cheer for Trump with vociferous enthusiasm. Meanwhile a handful of people show up for Biden, and could be forgiven for falling asleep or just leaving due to his inane unintelligible shouting hurting their ears. That is the most reliable indicator of what the people who are casting the votes actually think. You can turn a blind eye to it, or attribute it to social distancing, or the Trump voters being idiot cult members or whatever else you like, but the truth will reveal itself to you on wednesday morning.
 
You're allowing yourself to be fooled by selected polls and news stories designed to make creepy joe look like the favourite. The important objective fact is that in every state, 50,000 people turn up to cheer for Trump with vociferous enthusiasm. Meanwhile a handful of people show up for Biden, and could be forgiven for falling asleep or just leaving due to his inane unintelligible shouting hurting their ears. That is the most reliable indicator of what the people who are casting the votes actually think. You can turn a blind eye to it, or attribute it to social distancing, or the Trump voters being idiot cult members or whatever else you like, but the truth will reveal itself to you on wednesday morning.

People like Biden more than trump, but no one is enthusiastic for him. People are however quite enthusiastic to vote against trump, who has been historically unpopular.

They aren't going to kill themselves by packing rallies in contravention of good public health though. Not to listen to a below average public speaker, but really, not to listen to anyone. The core democratic voter is compliant with good public policy direction regarding coronavirus. All of bidens rallies have followed local policy, which means they aren't going to be big. All of trumps have flaunted it. It's like posting a video of Anfield right now and saying "where's your famous atmosphere?"

Trump rightly knows that a huge personal push for his core support, and the reality of the minority-ruled american electoral system, is the only thing that could get him over the line, and it's what worked for him last time. So he doesn't care if he goes to states with skyrocketing corona numbers, and puts on literally the only events that have that quantity of people grouped together. He doesn't care if people die.

So it's yet another fascinating sectarian moment, when people post a picture of a horde of enthusiastic voters for trump, it's evidence for both sides. Trumps core support things, wow, this is a real movement, look at how passionate all these people are, and look at how these people don't live in fear. People on the other side of the political divide think, wow, these people are worsening spread in their own communities to listen to a fucking idiot, we're really fucked!

I guess it's just a big, puzzling moment of subjectivity for all of us. Or it's not that at all, because you understand the very basics of germ theory and are aware that we are living in a special set of circumstances. One of those two I guess.

Either way, trumps legacy of assisting in the politicization of basic public health policy, especially mask wearing, is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.
 
His comments about Fauci at the latest rally also sums him up. If you dare to speak against him, or challenge his opinion. Sooner or later you’re getting replaced.

How do you think he’ll respond if he, hopefully, loses the election? @Farkmaster

He has already said his lawyers will be on the case as soon as the election is over, before the result is in.
 
People like Biden more than trump, but no one is enthusiastic for him. People are however quite enthusiastic to vote against trump, who has been historically unpopular.

They aren't going to kill themselves by packing rallies in contravention of good public health though. Not to listen to a below average public speaker, but really, not to listen to anyone. The core democratic voter is compliant with good public policy direction regarding coronavirus. All of bidens rallies have followed local policy, which means they aren't going to be big. All of trumps have flaunted it. It's like posting a video of Anfield right now and saying "where's your famous atmosphere?"

Trump rightly knows that a huge personal push for his core support, and the reality of the minority-ruled american electoral system, is the only thing that could get him over the line, and it's what worked for him last time. So he doesn't care if he goes to states with skyrocketing corona numbers, and puts on literally the only events that have that quantity of people grouped together. He doesn't care if people die.

So it's yet another fascinating sectarian moment, when people post a picture of a horde of enthusiastic voters for trump, it's evidence for both sides. Trumps core support things, wow, this is a real movement, look at how passionate all these people are, and look at how these people don't live in fear. People on the other side of the political divide think, wow, these people are worsening spread in their own communities to listen to a fucking idiot, we're really fucked!

I guess it's just a big, puzzling moment of subjectivity for all of us. Or it's not that at all, because you understand the very basics of germ theory and are aware that we are living in a special set of circumstances. One of those two I guess.

Either way, trumps legacy of assisting in the politicization of basic public health policy, especially mask wearing, is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.

Enthusiasm is what drives turnout. The messaging and debating isn't going to drive a significant number of people to suddenly change their political position, certainly not in favour of creepy joe. A trump supporter in 2016 ain't voting biden in 2020 because of masks "come on man". It's all about getting as many of your own supporters out as you can, and the turnout for Trump will be bigger than the turnout for Biden, by a landslide, which you can tell from their respective rallies. Just look at Trump, he's engaging the audience, he's funny, he's making them want to go out and vote. He knows how to win. Biden comes across as a depressingly pessimistic shouty old man, trust me he will have a lower turn out than killary did, by a long way.
 
Enthusiasm is what drives turnout. The messaging and debating isn't going to drive a significant number of people to suddenly change their political position, certainly not in favour of creepy joe. A trump supporter in 2016 ain't voting biden in 2020 because of masks "come on man". It's all about getting as many of your own supporters out as you can, and the turnout for Trump will be bigger than the turnout for Biden, by a landslide, which you can tell from their respective rallies. Just look at Trump, he's engaging the audience, he's funny, he's making them want to go out and vote. He knows how to win. Biden comes across as a depressingly pessimistic shouty old man, trust me he will have a lower turn out than killary did, by a long way.

Biden is much much more popular than Hillary was, and turnout will be higher this year. Trump has identified his only way of winning, and it's much the same as last time around, but its a weaker play in a number of ways, and stands an even narrower chance of success. Nothing he has done has significantly changed Biden's popularity. His attempt to mobilize an attack line around Hunter Biden has not changed the narrative at all, nor budged any thinking on Biden's popularity, despite your protestations to the contrary. This compared to last time, when the Comey announcement narrowed the race dramatically by dominating the news cycle.

The only thing he has to his advantage this year is the fact that he can use the machinery of the state (the post, the judiciary, the supreme court) to enjoy an advantage to secure a narrow victory. Another factor to account for is that many democrats didn't think Trump could win last time. I know I wrote it off till just a few days before. I didn't think America could be that stupid, but now we all know better.

Again, a LOT of people are enthusiastic to vote against Trump. His messaging has been driven at bringing out his core support, but it's an even narrower constituency than it used to be, and strongly pandering to your shrinking base also energizes your opponents base. Everyone from the center right of establishments democrats like biden, to the left, are more unified than they have been around their disgust for Trump. Were biden to win, that coalition would almost immediately break around policy, but for now, all of these people have had a chastening experience of pragmatic voting last time around. As an anecdote, looking at lawn signs, you won't see as many Biden signs in Democratic areas as you will see Trump signs in trump areas, but the amount of black lives matter, anti-trump signs, combined with biden signs, dwarf the trump signs.

Every election is different. Some are won by a narrow appeal to a base, especially lower turn out elections. Others are won by moderate boring candidates. In fact the latter used to be a boring conventional wisdom. Part of Biden's most effective argument is quite literally, we're all fucking tired of this circus, make politics boring again.
 
Why is Joe Biden so warm toward China?

Last week, Biden raised eyebrows when he shrugged off concerns over the China threat. “Come on, man,” Biden said. “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

Perhaps Biden’s insouciant attitude toward the Chinese government has to do with the fact that his family does not consider them competitors but business partners.

In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president.

If it sounds shocking that a vice president would shape US-China policy as his son — who has scant experience in private equity — clinched a coveted billion-dollar deal with an arm of the Chinese government, that’s because it is.

Until the publication of my book, “Secret Empires,” no one knew the deal took place. Indeed, it took me and a team of seasoned investigators nearly two years to unearth and report the facts.

Without the aid of subpoena power, here’s what we know. The businesses of Hunter Biden and his partners created a series of LLCs involved in multibillion-dollar private equity deals with companies owned by the Chinese government.

The centerpiece of these deals is Rosemont Seneca Partners, an investment firm controlled by Hunter Biden and his associates: Chris Heinz, who is John Kerry’s stepson, and Heinz’s longtime associate Devon Archer. The trio founded Rosemont Seneca in 2009 and quickly began making deals through a series of overlapping entities under the Rosemont name.

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Less than a year after opening Rosemont Seneca’s doors, Hunter Biden and Archer were in China meeting with top Chinese officials. To assist in their new venture, they partnered with a Massachusetts-based consultancy called the Thornton Group, headed by James Bulger, son of former Massachusetts state Sen. Billy Bulger. James Bulger has the dubious honor of being named after his uncle, the notorious mob hitman James “Whitey” Bulger.

The Thornton Group’s account of the meeting on their Chinese-language Web site is telling: Chinese executives “extended their warm welcome” to the “Thornton Group, with its US partner Rosemont Seneca chairman Hunter Biden (second son of the now Vice President Joe Biden).”

The purpose of the meetings was to “explore the possibility of commercial cooperation and opportunity.” Curiously, details about the meeting did not appear on their English-language Web site.

The timing of this meeting was also notable. It occurred just hours before Hunter Biden’s father, the vice president, met with Chinese President Hu Jintao in Washington as part of the Nuclear Security Summit.

Twelve days after Hunter stepped off Air Force Two in Beijing, his company signed a historic deal with the Bank of China, the state-owned financial behemoth often used as a tool of the Chinese government. The Bank of China had created a first-of-its-kind investment fund called Bohai Harvest RST (BHR). According to BHR, one of its founding partners was none other than Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC.

It was an unprecedented arrangement: the government of one of America’s fiercest competitors going into business with the son of one of America’s most powerful decisionmakers.

Chris Heinz claims neither he nor Rosemont Seneca Partners, the firm he had part ownership of, had any role in the deal with Bohai Harvest. Nonetheless, Biden, Archer and the Rosemont name became increasingly involved with China. Archer became the vice chairman of Bohai Harvest, helping oversee some of the fund’s investments.

Troublingly, some of those investments had major implications for national security.

In December 2014, BHR became an “anchor investor” in the IPO of China General Nuclear Power Corp. (CGN), a state-owned energy company involved in the construction of nuclear reactors. In April 2016, the US Justice Department would charge CGN with stealing nuclear secrets from the United States — actions prosecutors said could cause “significant damage to our national security.”

Joe Biden meeting with then Ukrainian prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk during a meeting in Kiev in 2014.AP
Of particular interest to CGN were sensitive, American-made components that, according to experts, resembled components used by the US on its nuclear submarines.

That Hunter Biden had no experience in China, and little in private equity, didn’t dissuade the Chinese government from giving his company a business opportunity in place of established global financial brands like Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs. In fact, the Chinese government wasn’t done funding deals with Hunter Biden.

Also in December 2014, a Chinese state-backed conglomerate called Gemini Investments Limited was negotiating and sealing deals with Hunter Biden’s Rosemont on several fronts. That month, it made a $34 million investment into a fund managed by Rosemont.

The following August, Rosemont Realty, another sister company of Rosemont Seneca, announced that Gemini Investments was buying a 75 percent stake in the company. The terms of the deal included a $3 billion commitment from the Chinese, who were eager to purchase new US properties. Shortly after the sale, Rosemont Realty was rechristened Gemini Rosemont.

Chinese executives lauded the deal.

“Rosemont, with its comprehensive real-estate platform and superior performance history, was precisely the investment opportunity Gemini Investments was looking for in order to invest in the US real estate market,” declared Li Ming, Sino-Ocean Land Holdings Limited and Gemini Investments chairman. “We look forward to a strong and successful partnership.”

The plan was to use Chinese money to acquire more properties in the United States. “We see great opportunities to continue acquiring high-quality real estate in the US market,” one company executive said. “The possibilities for this venture are tremendous.”
 
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