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At this point they are both going to argue that Black is White.

May as well just accept it, they aren't going to listen to any evidence that doesn't support their way of thinking.

You're wasting your time.

I think you’re right.
 
I think they've done a way better job than the media that influences you - who without any investigation whatsoever concluded there was no fraud.

Really - do you - Cyber Ninjas?

And you’re basing that on... the fact they produced a report that “sits well” with you?

Who’s paying them? What affiliations do they have?
 
Really - do you - Cyber Ninjas?

And you’re basing that on... the fact they produced a report that “sits well” with you?

Who’s paying them? What affiliations do they have?

You're showing promise now Stevie.

Ask the same questions when the media narratives are put out without any factual basis and you might actually be able to read the news properly in future.
 
Scientists are analysing scientific data, such as trying to forecast a temperature change as a multiphase fluid flows down a length of pipe. There's all sorts of ways you can get it wrong because modelling nature is just hard, and there are all sorts of reasons to suspect 99% of academics would just not bother to spend sufficient time upon doing it right.

Cyber Ninjas counted things like "23,000 voters had moved out of state". This is counting, of things, using whole numbers, you don't even need fractions. I can't imagine a single plausible way you can fuck that up. You are the one who is reaching to think that there is some mysterious complexity in this dark art of counting which we're just not aware of, and which allows you to hold on to your laughable silly belief that the fraud was a big lie.

Yes... they counted - and if you believe them, they found the counted results were accurate.

Then they presented some numbers, and said there’s sone ballots they think are dodgy.

Great.

So - the people that were paid...handsomely... not from the public purse... specifically to find something they could report on to justify that expenditure... found things they called out as irregularities... which pretty much everyone else internal or external challenges as not being accurate or correct.... presented some numbers that..

... actually... there is no point to me doing this...

Doesn’t matter to Ross - he doesn’t care about truth or accuracy- he just needs something to feed his ego.

Doesn’t matter to you - you’ll perform the sort of gymnastics, mentally, that would see you in a leotard.... I’ll stop there because the image is already too distressing.... but... there is nothing that would convince you that your hero lost the election fairly.
 
I'll summarise the problems for you Stevie, I know you haven't read the report. Just the narrative.

None of the various systems related to elections had numbers that would balance and agree with each other.
In
some cases, these differences were significant.

• There appears to be many 27, 807 ballots cast from individuals who had moved prior to the election.

• Files were missing from the Election Management System (EMS) Server.

• Ballot images 284,412 on the EMS were corrupt or missing.

• Logs appeared to be intentionally rolled over, and all the data in the database related to the 2020 General
Election had been fully cleared.

• On the ballot side, batches were not always clearly delineated, duplicated ballots were missing the required
serial numbers, originals were duplicated more than once, and the Auditors were never provided Chain-of-
Custody documentation for the ballots for the time-period prior to the ballot’s movement into the Auditors’
care. This all increased the complexity and difficulty in properly auditing the results; and added ambiguity into
the final conclusions.

• Maricopa County failed to follow basic cyber security best practices and guidelines from CISA
 
You're showing promise now Stevie.

Ask the same questions when the media narratives are put out without any factual basis and you might actually be able to read the news properly in future.

that’s your problem - you think I don’t question.

I just don’t reach the same conclusions as you - because in most cases, they’re palpably mad.
 
I'll summarise the problems for you Stevie, I know you haven't read the report. Just the narrative.

None of the various systems related to elections had numbers that would balance and agree with each other.
In
some cases, these differences were significant.

• There appears to be many 27, 807 ballots cast from individuals who had moved prior to the election.

• Files were missing from the Election Management System (EMS) Server.

• Ballot images 284,412 on the EMS were corrupt or missing.

• Logs appeared to be intentionally rolled over, and all the data in the database related to the 2020 General
Election had been fully cleared.

• On the ballot side, batches were not always clearly delineated, duplicated ballots were missing the required
serial numbers, originals were duplicated more than once, and the Auditors were never provided Chain-of-
Custody documentation for the ballots for the time-period prior to the ballot’s movement into the Auditors’
care. This all increased the complexity and difficulty in properly auditing the results; and added ambiguity into
the final conclusions.

• Maricopa County failed to follow basic cyber security best practices and guidelines from CISA

Where did you copy and paste this from, because I reckon you haven’t read the report either?

Send me a link to the report - I couldn’t find one.

Also... again... are the people behind this report biased in any way? Are they credible? What’s their track record line? Is there any influences on them that may have “directed” their findings?

The things above you mentioned - what of the debunks that suggest they aren’t issues?
 
Rosco and Dantes on their honeymoon

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She was presenting TV when I was a kid, I'm now 41... by my estimate she must be near 100 now.
 
Where did you copy and paste this from, because I reckon you haven’t read the report either?

Send me a link to the report - I couldn’t find one.

Also... again... are the people behind this report biased in any way? Are they credible? What’s their track record line? Is there any influences on them that may have “directed” their findings?

The things above you mentioned - what of the debunks that suggest they aren’t issues?
The report was led by Doug Logan, a 'cybersecurity expert with no previous elections experience' who embraced Trump voting conspiracies early in the piece. So all votes in Maricopa county were hand counted after the Republicans forced a review. After a hand recount of 2.1 million votes Trump got 261 less votes and Biden an extra 99 votes. Widespread corruption indeed.
 
The report was led by Doug Logan, a 'cybersecurity expert with no previous elections experience' who embraced Trump voting conspiracies early in the piece. So all votes in Maricopa county were hand counted after the Republicans forced a review. After a hand recount of 2.1 million votes Trump got 261 less votes and Biden an extra 99 votes. Widespread corruption indeed.

Doc if I borrowed 500 pound from you and have you 450 pound and then 50 quid in monopoly money , would I have repaid my debt ?
 
This analogy works how?

It is because if 50 votes are fraudulent, those votes don't spontaneously disappear from existence, they're still there and counted up in the total vote tally, and then recounted in the audit tally. So your point is basically there is no widespread failure in the ability of people to count paper accurately to within +/- a few hundred. Nobody claimed otherwise, ever. So if you therefore counted monopoly money, it would still come up to a count of 500 +/- whatever mistakes you make with counting which would probably be a fair few, and then you would presumably be quite happy the debt was repaid.
 

  • The Hunter Biden e-mail coverup is the clearest evidence yet of media corruption
    By David Harsanyi

    September 24, 2021 | 5:56pm

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    The Post covered stories on Hunter Biden's laptop at great length last fall.Photo by Paul Morigi/Getty Images for World Food Program USA
    The Hunter Biden e-mail coverup may not be the most contemptible example of the modern political media’s corruption, but it is probably the most demonstrable.

    Politico reports that Ben Schreckinger’s new book, “The Bidens: Inside the First Family’s Fifty-Year Rise to Power,” corroborates much of the New York Post’s pre-election reporting on Hunter Biden’s e-mails. Two of them stick out: The first is a 2015 missive from a Ukrainian businessman thanking Hunter for the chance to meet Joe Biden — then, still vice president. The second is a 2017 e-mail in which a proposed equity breakdown of a venture with Chinese energy executives included the line, “10 held by H for the big guy?”

    Of course, The Post story already had more substantiation than the histrionic and fallacious Russia-collusion scoops the nation had been subjected to for four years. The Post had reported, in great detail, how it had physically obtained Hunter’s laptop. It had interviewed the owner of the Delaware computer shop where Hunter had abandoned his computer. It had Hunter’s signature on a receipt and on-the-record sources with intimate knowledge of Hunter’s interactions. Later, the e-mails were authenticated by forensic specialists.


    A photo of Hunter Biden from his missing laptop.
    Yet virtually the entire censorious journalistic establishment, with the help of tech giants, attempted to limit the story’s exposure by banning it outright, creating the impression that it didn’t meet proper journalistic standards or that it had been planted by Russian spooks.

    Only a month earlier, Jeffrey Goldberg had published a highly shared Atlantic piece accusing Donald Trump of besmirching the American military in which he failed to offer a single on-the-record source or corroborating evidence — and then refused to respond to the 21 sources, including on-the-record eyewitnesses, who publicly refuted his account.

    And a few months later, the media were breathlessly reporting the infamous Russian-bounty story, about Russia paying the Taliban to kill coalition troops, including Americans. This, too, turned out to be another in a long line of “fake news” pieces.


    Ben Schreckinger’s confirms a good chunk of The Post’s previous coverage on Hunter Biden’s laptop.
    Jonathan Ernst/File Photo/Reuters

    The Hunter Biden laptop is confirmed?! Color us shocked!
    This had gone on for years. Is it any wonder that trust in the media dropped from 70 percent in 2016 to 35 percent this year?

    CNN, where unsubstantiated gang-rape allegations against Brett Kavanaugh were treated as legitimate news, wrote a piece headlined: “The anatomy of the New York Post’s dubious Hunter Biden story.” What was dubious about it? CNN’s chief media correspondent, Brian Stelter, who regularly hosted the raving smear-peddler Michael Avenatti (now in prison for extortion), said of The Post, “We are not talking about fully reliable sources here.” Well, I suppose, the one thing the Post had going for it over CNN in its investigation of a presidential son was the presence of a nonimaginary source.

    When Hunter’s former partner and Navy veteran Tony Bobulinski was interviewed on Tucker Carlson, he claimed he’d had a business meeting with Joe Biden in 2017 and that the former vice president had been intimately involved in the family business for years. We now have e-mails that lend credence to those claims.


    CNN had previously covered assault claims against Brett Kavanaugh extensively.
    Erin Schaff/The New York Times via AP, Pool

    Hunter Biden emails boast ties to White House and China
    We shouldn’t forget, either, that there is still no widespread reporting on evidence showing that the president may have benefited from his son’s shady overseas scams. Perhaps Hunter lied in the e-mails about the “Big Man” getting paid, but on numerous occasions, Joe Biden denied having any knowledge about Hunter’s business deals or his use of family ties to strike deals with Chinese Communists and Ukrainian energy interests. Does anyone believe that Biden didn’t ask his son what he was doing when Hunter tagged along on an Air Force Two trip to China in 2013?


    A selfie of Hunter Biden from his stolen laptop.
    When Hunter became a board member of Burisma in 2014, contemporaneous news reports suggested there was a conflict of interest, given his father’s position. Did Biden not read those pieces? Two Obama-administration officials reportedly raised the ethical problems with Hunter’s dealings. But Joe never discussed this with anyone?

    It’s a risible claim.

    Much of the reticence in investigating Hunter Biden was surely a reaction to the fallout over the Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal. A revisionist history has emerged in which Hillary was the victim of an unfair and unnewsworthy story. In reality, because of her reckless and potentially criminal behavior, there was an open FBI investigation into the front-running presidential candidate for the presidency of the United States. If anything, Hillary is lucky that James Comey let her off the hook.


    Tony Bobulinski has said he had a business meeting with Joe Biden four years ago.
    Evan Vucci/AP
    Still, political media weren’t going to have a repeat of 2016 and ruin the Democrats’ chances. We don’t know whether Joe Biden has engaged in any criminal, corrupt or even fishy behavior — and major outlets seem determined to never find out. And it speaks poorly of the nation’s political media, to say the least, that Americans have a better chance of learning what Biden’s favorite ice-cream flavor is than whether he knew about, or cashed in on, his son’s corrupt adventures.

    Twitter: @DavidHarsanyi

 
If memory serves, when Tony Bobulinski was interviewed on fox news, Hansern instantly dismissed it because Tucker Carlson is not a reliable source, then had the temerity to speak down to me as if I was some sort of fool falling for his big nasty fox news lies, and Hansern of superior intellect was the objective voice of reason etc etc etc. Good times. Shame they didn't age well for him.
 
The report was led by Doug Logan, a 'cybersecurity expert with no previous elections experience' who embraced Trump voting conspiracies early in the piece. So all votes in Maricopa county were hand counted after the Republicans forced a review. After a hand recount of 2.1 million votes Trump got 261 less votes and Biden an extra 99 votes. Widespread corruption indeed.

Your eyebrows might be raised even more when you find out who Logan is besties with and who funded the whole investigation.

If Ross has read the report and applied the “critical thinking” he wangs in about, then he’ll have rigorously assessed all the criticisms of the report and be able to stand by the reports accuracy and independence as well as outline why all the criticisms are not valid.

I mean... if he’s just posted it because his favoured “news” outlet says it proves the election was fraudulent - then has he just become the sort of cunt he accuses everyone else of being?
 
Your eyebrows might be raised even more when you find out who Logan is besties with and who funded the whole investigation.

If Ross has read the report and applied the “critical thinking” he wangs in about, then he’ll have rigorously assessed all the criticisms of the report and be able to stand by the reports accuracy and independence as well as outline why all the criticisms are not valid.

I mean... if he’s just posted it because his favoured “news” outlet says it proves the election was fraudulent - then has he just become the sort of cunt he accuses everyone else of being?

As long as Logan graduated from kindergarten, then he can count, so you don't have to worry about whether the numbers in the report are accurate or independent. Counting things isn't that hard. Perhaps you should ask yourself why those criticisms are trying to tell you that it is hard and requires some detailed knowledge and experience. We're not auditing financial statements here, he audited bits of paper, but do continue pretending he wasn't qualified. If there is a single number in the entire report that is inaccurate, I'll eat a plate of that pizza.
 




This is the debunking explanation for the missing data. The auditor subpoena'd the server. They had to hand it over on the 3rd of Feb. So the night before, on the 2nd, the election officials backed stuff up to another server, then erased data off the server they handed over. Their explanation is this is just normal practice, it's their fault they didn't subpoena the drive we backed everything up onto the night before, they're dumb, not our problem.

I cannot imagine how stupid you have to be, to not instantly conclude from that without a fucking shadow of a doubt that they were concealing election fraud. Much less believe anything the people who did this tell you afterwards.
 
Your eyebrows might be raised even more when you find out who Logan is besties with and who funded the whole investigation.

If Ross has read the report and applied the “critical thinking” he wangs in about, then he’ll have rigorously assessed all the criticisms of the report and be able to stand by the reports accuracy and independence as well as outline why all the criticisms are not valid.

I mean... if he’s just posted it because his favoured “news” outlet says it proves the election was fraudulent - then has he just become the sort of cunt he accuses everyone else of being?

I don't think the report is perfect, so I don't have to stand over every little thing it.

That's how critical thinking works.

When there are explanations for the odd goings on with servers being wiped and the duplicate ballots and other potentially fraudulent ballots then we'll be in a position to determine whether the election was stolen.

But until then there is still evidence that suggests there was fraud that needs further investigation - and that's despite all the claims of there being no evidence from the media outlets that continuously pull the wool over your eyes.
 




This is the debunking explanation for the missing data. The auditor subpoena'd the server. They had to hand it over on the 3rd of Feb. So the night before, on the 2nd, the election officials backed stuff up to another server, then erased data off the server they handed over. Their explanation is this is just normal practice, it's their fault they didn't subpoena the drive we backed everything up onto the night before, they're dumb, not our problem.

I cannot imagine how stupid you have to be, to not instantly conclude from that without a fucking shadow of a doubt that they were concealing election fraud. Much less believe anything the people who did this tell you afterwards.


Who’s Julia, and is she likely to be biased in any way towards what she’s “reporting”?
 
I still love how these dicks use machines to count the votes. What's the problem with getting a load of students in to count the paper ones like they do here? It's all done quickly enough.
 
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