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I think we could replace half our team with elks and be better off. Although we might struggle with work permits.
I have defended Rodgers till his last day, but signing Benteke is the one thing that makes me want to poke his eyes Mourinho style...
What the fuck was he on....binning Balo off publicly and making him out to be the scapegoat for last season and then to go out there to buy Benteke? Almost makes me believe that he is a chancer like others on this site have said.
What the fuck was he on....binning Balo off publicly and making him out to be the scapegoat for last season and then to go out there to buy Benteke? Almost makes me believe that he is a chancer like others on this site have said.
About a week before he's next crocked.
Plan A. Plan B. He suits neither cos he's just fucking shite.
He wasn't exactly shite when he played for Villa though was he, especially when he played against us?
Performances against us is hardly a measure of greatness mate. I can't stand him. Big lumbering lazy galoot. 13 aerial challenges today. He won 2. He's a waste of space.
I was just thinking that teams on bad runs or strikers on barren streaks must take some measure of comfort in facing us. Having a bad time? Come break your duck at Liverpool!
He was good for Villa but has been poor for us but I don't think the reason for that is simply because he is shit.
However he doesn't seem that bothered and isn't exactly the hardest worker either so I am fucked if I am going to defend him.
He'll surely be gone in the summer.
Like others have said, he's a decent player in the right system. He just lacks the nous and flexibility to adapt to a more mobile and rounded role demanded of him here.
It's not going to work out. Origi (or a fit Sturridge) will lead the line come February and we'll be looking to move Benteke on in favour of a better suited player in the summer.
Of course, Ings is big fat dollop of bad luck this season given he'd have likely taken quickly to Klopp's style.
Like others have said, he's a decent player in the right system. He just lacks the nous and flexibility to adapt to a more mobile and rounded role demanded of him here.
It's not going to work out. Origi (or a fit Sturridge) will lead the line come February and we'll be looking to move Benteke on in favour of a better suited player in the summer.
Of course, Ings is big fat dollop of bad luck this season given he'd have likely taken quickly to Klopp's style.
Yep, all this talk of not playing to his strength is nonsense. When we send it up top he wasn't even close to winning the ball 90% of the time. Even when he won it it went to no one, not even close, just some random flick to nowhere. This against the mighty Collins and whoever their other centre back was.
He can't win the aerial challenges, he fluffed half chances badly, he is useless when the ball goes to his feet, he is as slow as Lucas, his touch is shite most of the time, I'm not sure what he is actually good at.
Shite signing together with Firmino.
Now is the winter of our marcusbent.
I doubt that. Klopp would never have joined us if he wasn't guaranteed a big transfer budget. If he want £300m in the next few windows then he will get it IMO. He will be able to buy a player even if he would cost £50m.
Klopp will need to spend the money on some fantastic players. Suarez type of players that will make the players believe that they will win against every team on the planet. He will sell a lot of players and replace some of them with high quaility players and the rest with players from our youth team.
At 32m it was always expensive. But he scores a goal every other start, so that puts him at a premium.
He's Continued that ratio at Liverpool.
He was horrendous today. But the one thing that stands out aswell is that we cant hit a cross to save our lives. It these floaty shitty crosses thats easier to defend against.
Lallana took 3 corners of equal shitness.
Why is it so hard to hit them with pace and in a zone where its difficult to defend against...
Lallana took 3 corners of equal shitness.
Why is it so hard to hit them with pace and in a zone where its difficult to defend against...
Except that at Liverpool we also talk about conversion rates; you're not expected frequently miss one on ones, disappear for long periods or simply be content with being in the Premier League.
It's not his fault that we're not clever with our money but the lad is not very good.
At Liverpool we talk about 'conversion rates'? What? When? Have I missed a meeting? What else was discussed?
One goal in two matches match, or hadn't you heard?
What?
Graeme Souness and Joe Fagan.
The problem is this:-
1) He looks lost for most the game, and his running is ... at a different frequency to the rest of the team.
2) He misses chances when he has to do a little thinking - yes I know Suarez missed many chances in his first season with us BUT - we could not fault him that much because he nearly always created those chances himself. But Benteke cannot create chances - he needs to be serviced, and its the type of service we cannot provide him because unlike Villa he now plays for a team who have to play against 10 man defenses so he is crowded out.
3) He also seems really fragile when he has the ball - a little push and a little pressure and he loses the ball. For a big guy he really needs to be a bit more bullish.
Fucking hell its so depressing.
1) He looks lost for most the game, and his running is ... at a different frequency to the rest of the team.
2) He misses chances when he has to do a little thinking - yes I know Suarez missed many chances in his first season with us BUT - we could not fault him that much because he nearly always created those chances himself. But Benteke cannot create chances - he needs to be serviced, and its the type of service we cannot provide him because unlike Villa he now plays for a team who have to play against 10 man defenses so he is crowded out.
3) He also seems really fragile when he has the ball - a little push and a little pressure and he loses the ball. For a big guy he really needs to be a bit more bullish.
Fucking hell its so depressing.
I don't blame him. He's fucking shite like, but I don't really blame him; he is what he is.
How in the name of fuck Rodgers thought he was the man though I'll never know. As if seeing Carroll, Balotelli and Lambert fail fucking miserably in that 'role' wasn't enough, and with the Suarez/4-4-2 evidence staring him in the fucking face, he still goes on say's, nope I want the big man.
It infuriates me that just about every fucking one of us (Mark aside, of course) saw this coming. It was fucking obvious this cunt wouldn't suit. How can a collection of keyboard warriors just know this was coming, yet a manager is capable of convincing a bunch of owners otherwise.
For 32M quid.
We're such a fucking shit club.
How in the name of fuck Rodgers thought he was the man though I'll never know. As if seeing Carroll, Balotelli and Lambert fail fucking miserably in that 'role' wasn't enough, and with the Suarez/4-4-2 evidence staring him in the fucking face, he still goes on say's, nope I want the big man.
It infuriates me that just about every fucking one of us (Mark aside, of course) saw this coming. It was fucking obvious this cunt wouldn't suit. How can a collection of keyboard warriors just know this was coming, yet a manager is capable of convincing a bunch of owners otherwise.
For 32M quid.
We're such a fucking shit club.
This post needs to somehow, some way, to make it to the inbox of John W Henry.
I reckon desperation lay behind it, simple as. Rodgers knew the axe was poised over him and by that stage he was looking for the quickest possible fix, quite possibly in the knowledge that it was a gamble.
That said, scoring scrappy winners is a useful skill for a striker to have and Benteke's managed that a couple of times lately, besides which he's always been a streaky player. I'm keeping hope alive as long as he's still around.
That said, scoring scrappy winners is a useful skill for a striker to have and Benteke's managed that a couple of times lately, besides which he's always been a streaky player. I'm keeping hope alive as long as he's still around.
He's clearly not shit though. Thats the curse of the keyboard warriors. Not suited for us - sure. But he's not shite. You dont achieve a 1 in 2 record and score the 4th most goals in the league the last 3 years being shite.
Fuck that lazy argument.
Comparing him to Heskey. Benteke has almost scored the same amount of goals that Heskey has done his entire career, but with 12 years and 500 games less.
It beggers belief.
Fuck that lazy argument.
Comparing him to Heskey. Benteke has almost scored the same amount of goals that Heskey has done his entire career, but with 12 years and 500 games less.
It beggers belief.
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Quite. I completely understand the suitability argument, but he's a good striker equally suffering from our lack of support as much as we're suffering from a forward that fits how we want to play.
I want to be sympathetic towards Benteke and he does score goals... however the Heskey comparisons don't seem all that ridiculous when you watch him struggle to gain any kind of foothold against West Ham's defense.
It's not like we're expecting Suarez / Aguero type magic rather what should be bread and butter type stuff for centre forwards like Benteke and he's falling badly short. That's got nothing to do with his team-mates. He needs to decide whether he's going to succeed here and make it happen by sheer force of will instead of running around looking like someone who's been hard done by.
It's not like we're expecting Suarez / Aguero type magic rather what should be bread and butter type stuff for centre forwards like Benteke and he's falling badly short. That's got nothing to do with his team-mates. He needs to decide whether he's going to succeed here and make it happen by sheer force of will instead of running around looking like someone who's been hard done by.
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