Doesn't make it right.
Benteke - BOOOOOO the puns
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Of course yeah.
You're so wise Whaddapie. I'm sure you would have been there to explain the error of our ways.
*wipes sarcasm off the forum*
A transfer thread is never, ever complete without a post of Whaddapie's ilk.
It's like football hasn't changed. Out of sight.
It's like football hasn't changed. Out of sight.
For every Ian Rush, there has been about 4 Stuart Downing, so I'm not really sure what the point is at all. This isn't a 'we want a super-star' issue. I think most fans, on here at least, accept players like Lacazette may be beyond the reach of our appeal and so long as we at least throw our hat in the ring and succeed every so often then there's no real issue. This is about whether Rodgers has the ability to teach attacking play led by a physical striker with average technique. I accept that Benteke is on another level to Carroll, Crouch and Ballotelli, but there's more than enough concerns there for me to feel anxious about paying £32.5M for him.
The manager has to set the team up to play to Benteke's strengths or there's no point playing him. If he want's or expects Benteke to adapt his game to play like Suarez or Sturridge then it isn't going to work so the team has to get more crosses in and try not to play the ball into his feet with his back to goal as that doesn't suit him at all. Also the centre halves need to resist the hoof forwards because he can head the ball as it may be the easy option but that doesn't mean it's the right option.
Was waiting for you there, Gene - Surprised it took you so long. Well in. Clever and sharp as ever, your highness.
Thanks!
So, because football has changed, Benteke will fail because Carroll did, is it? And we're a joke of a club with a loser's mentality because Costa and Sanchez want to make more than we can pay them, win more than we can promise them and prefer the city of London to Liverpool. Ok. Fair enough. My apologies.
I think you've all missed the important thing here. Lancashire?
It's funny how football changes. A lot has been made of this 'proven premier league striker with a 1 in 2 ratio' .... Micky Quinn was a proven 1 in 2 striker for Coventry in the 90s... would he be worth 32 million in today's market?
It reminded me of Sherwood banging on about his win percentage at Tottenham. When I looked closer, it was more like 1 in 3.
Love your attitude, mate. I was not in favor of spending the Sterling money on Benteke either, but now that's it's a done deal, let's be constructive and see how it can work. I like the "diamond" idea; seeing this front 6 (plus Clyne and Moreno/Gomez providing width from the flanks) fills me with a lot more optimism than the 4-3-3/4-5-1 with Benteke as the lone striker, which is what we mostly see in the media as our future formation. A trio of floaty wingers/AMs behind one target man may sound logical at first, but Benteke is much worse than Ibra, Lewandowski or even Giroud at bringing teammates into play and our wingers/AMs don't pose enough of a consistent goal threat to make this formation truly effective.
Of course Coutinho needs to be the playmaker pulling the strings in the middle and both Milner and Henderson will start the majority of games in CM. For the DM position, I would suggest Can; another option would be to play him at the middle of 3 CBs (the Beckenbauer role). And when we need to freshen things up in attack, the likes of Lallana, Markovic, and Ibe can come on for one of the strikers (or both) and get busy running at the tired defenders. This might all still work, especially if Firmino hits the ground running.
I think its fair to say that based on the way last season panned out we were probably going to add a couple of different options rather than constantly trying to thread passes through the opposition defence, it became far too predictable and the better organised sides could stifle us by just clogging the middle of the park.. If nothing else Benteke is a viable alternative to all the other options currently at our disposal. I dont expect us to start hitting it long because Rodgers just doesnt play that way but I think we might start seeing the likes of Ibe, Markovic and Clyne given license to stay wide and get the ball into the box for Benteke to attack
I'm really not so concerned with this 'crosses' stat that every one on here keeps banging on about. We had ⅔ of the number of crosses Villa had last season and where Benteke will shine for us is where we fail miserably most of the time ... posing a real threat at corners and FKs into the box. Also Villa play counter-attacking football, they don't just lump the ball up to Benteke they play it to his feet or pass it ahead of him, that should again suit us perfectly. Though I do agree completely with your CB comments !
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[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/christian-benteke-transfer-liverpool-target-6093464]Benteke, whose £32.5million release clause has been triggered by Liverpool, is thought to favour a club that can give him Champions League football - and that could cause a delay to his Anfield transfer going through.
Belgium international Benteke is hoping one of the top four can offer him a platform on the biggest club stage of them all before he puts pen to paper with the Reds, who will play in the Europa League next season.[/article]
[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/christian-benteke-transfer-liverpool-target-6093464]Benteke, whose £32.5million release clause has been triggered by Liverpool, is thought to favour a club that can give him Champions League football - and that could cause a delay to his Anfield transfer going through.
Belgium international Benteke is hoping one of the top four can offer him a platform on the biggest club stage of them all before he puts pen to paper with the Reds, who will play in the Europa League next season.[/article]
According to the Belgian journos he worked best in Genk in a 4-4-2 with a pacey striker next to him.
I agree that he may become way to isolated as a lone striker but at the same time he offes that threat of running in behind the defence that Giroud wont.
The introducion of Clyne, Milner and Firmino will see us mixing things up and hitting some early crosses. Hopefully this will make us much less predictable. Which was a major problem last season.
Benteke needs to be facing goal most of the time though, and unlike our other strikers actually be in the box.
He should wait till after the 25th/26th of August then, in case the Mancs fail to make it past the CL play-off round. That will leave him 5 or 6 days before the window closes.
If true, let's hope we're hunting down alternatives rather sitting around waiting for the player to make up his mind.
Amen to that. I'm not keen for the club to be anyone's sloppy seconds, and that would include better players than Benteke.
Genk have been in the CL twice since the competition started.
Moving from Belgium to the PL is probably also about developing as a player no?
The newspaper headlines about him waiting for a CL club to come in sound like convenient lazy newspaper bollocks. He was linked to United just before we made a bid, which given that there hadn't really been much else in terms of that rumour or link to any other team, may've been a ploy from Villa/his agent to prompt our bid (call me cynical).
Now because there is talk of him coming over on Monday and having his medical, seems that journos have latched onto the "delay" and the United link and decided to print "Benteke to wait for CL club to swoop in" with absolutely no quotes. I'm sure in reality the lad is probably sitting there made up that we've taken the chance on his mammoth release clause to give him a crack.
Now because there is talk of him coming over on Monday and having his medical, seems that journos have latched onto the "delay" and the United link and decided to print "Benteke to wait for CL club to swoop in" with absolutely no quotes. I'm sure in reality the lad is probably sitting there made up that we've taken the chance on his mammoth release clause to give him a crack.
"Benteke in crack scandal". 😉
Just saw this update on the BBC when looking at the Ashes score:
10:00 Some breaking football transfer news for you... Liverpool have reached an agreement with Aston Villa over payment terms on their £32.5m move for Cristian Benteke. The Anfield club have now arranged a medical, which will take place in the UK. Liverpool's club doctor will fly home from the club's tour of Australia to complete the medical but Benteke will not join up with his new team-mates Down Under.
(Yes I do watch some cricket)
10:00 Some breaking football transfer news for you... Liverpool have reached an agreement with Aston Villa over payment terms on their £32.5m move for Cristian Benteke. The Anfield club have now arranged a medical, which will take place in the UK. Liverpool's club doctor will fly home from the club's tour of Australia to complete the medical but Benteke will not join up with his new team-mates Down Under.
(Yes I do watch some cricket)
So we have a new club doctor now?
