If it was generally considered a more likely method of scoring a penalty, more teams would do it.
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If it was generally considered a more likely method of scoring a penalty, more teams would do it.
That's not too crazy, I suppose. Although I can't say I would ever place such a large bet.
the bale, ronaldo, benzema combination has scored just as many goals as the barca front 3 this season.
Messi was out for what, 2 months?
Last year, with Suarez out for a few months, they smashed them too.
As I mentioned in a betting forum post......I put £1,000 into a betfair account many years ago and have since taken out considerably more; I look at the money in my betting account as "ill-gotten gains" and "other people's money" so I don't feel guilty or too bad if a bet loses.
Well, maybe they should but it's a matter of having the balls, nerves and teamwork to do it.
I believe there are about 6 recorded instances* of a Tap Penalty and only 1 (Arsenal) miss. So done properly, there is probably a very high success rate. Probably more than a Paneka.
Anyway, on arrogance, an interesting question is: If you are 6-0 up at the 60th minute, is it more arrogant to keep scoring until you are 12-0, or take off your best strikers?
*(Rik Coppens 1957 / Johnny Newman, 1964 / Johan Cryuff, 1982 / Thierry Henry, 2005 / Martin Ericsson, 2007 / Messi, 2016)
If your strikers could benefit from a rest, rest them. There's difference between arrogance and managing your squad.
As for the success rate of "tap penalties", the success rate is skewed by the very limited data set, and there's a reason it's limited which is also the same reason they wouldn't have tried it if they were 0-0 in a Real/ Barca derby.
A few years ago my son's U11 team overachieved & got to a local cup final. They were playing the A-team of the top club in the county (they had A, B, C, D teams whereas our lot did well to scrape a starting 11 together), and so the final was, unsurprisingly, very one sided.
With about 10-minutes to go, and winning 5-0, the opposition got a corner and, encouraged by his manager, the goalkeeper went up into the box. I remember our manager, myself & a number of other parents taking offense at that as it was seen as being disrespectful and rubbing or lads' noses in it
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With about 10-minutes to go, and winning 5-0, the opposition got a corner and, encouraged by his manager, the goalkeeper went up into the box. I remember our manager, myself & a number of other parents taking offense at that as it was seen as being disrespectful and rubbing or lads' noses in it
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And you would be correct.
Definitely. A man coaching kids that age should never teach kids to be so disrespectful to their opponents.
Yeah, that's pretty shit. However, if it were the other way around (ie they were losing and wanted to get on the scoresheet) I'd have no problem.
All's fair so long as rules are not broken. Didn't even know that was a legal move til yesterday.
Does Luis Enrique get any credit?
That's twisting my argument in the most clumsy way possible. Who said anything about cloggers? Did you ever watch the Liverpool of Paisley or Dalglish with Barnes and co at their peak? Cloggers, were they, because they knew how to behave with class as well as skill? I just hate that kind of vainglorious pissing about to embarrass the other side. And as for all this crap about them wanting Suarez to have a hattrick - well, there was an easier way - they could have just let him take the bloody penalty!
Had this been his first job, he'd be talked like Guardiola is talked about ... as it wasn't, he's not been given enough credit but he may very well win back to back trebles ... unheard of.
Levante has a yearly budget of 12 mill euros.
Barcelona has a budget close to 560 mill euros.
This is the Spanish league and the very reason they do so well in Europe. They have every opportunity to be well rested.
I think they are too soft this year to go all the way though.
Barcelona has a budget close to 560 mill euros.
This is the Spanish league and the very reason they do so well in Europe. They have every opportunity to be well rested.
I think they are too soft this year to go all the way though.
Easy there
I wasnt twisting anything you were saying. I was giving my opinion.
And, no I never got the chance to watch the Paisley or Dalglish days, however I'm fairly certain they weren't cloggers
Obviously there are teams that can destroy the opposition fairly easily without the need for showboating. My point was the showboating makes the genius of those teams more apparent.
If Barca had won by 10 goals without that Pen, instead of by 5 with it, would it have been any less humiliating?
If you're clearly so much better than the opposition, I don't see why it's so damming to show it.
Also, it's meant to have been a pass to Neymar (as he and Messi have been practicing it), but Suarez poached it. That makes it even better
In truth they were not so much better than the opposition - I saw the game, it took them a while to break them down (it was 1-1 at half time) and Celta Vigo had a few good chances when they were 2-1 down. The problem was that Celta decided to just go for it - what happened to them could have happened to any team who decide to be less defensive when facing the likes of MSN.
Can I just say watching - Suarez - O man !!! - his willingness and determination is infecting Barca to be better.
Obviously not, but if they played themselves into the position to be able to do it you can't call it disrespectful. They earned the right to try it and any semi decent team would not have allowed the hottest player in Spain to run in unopposed like that.
Where were the defenders?
So you didn't enjoy Liverpool dominating the 80's?
He's entitled to be cocky though.
We were winning a game 7-0 last season and I let our keeper take a penalty.
He was delighted.
It made his season.
If they obviously wouldn't do it at 0-0 but would at 3-1 or whatever it was, it was disrespectful.
Just seen some highlights from the game and post match interviews.
Firstly. .. The post match presser....what the fuck! There is a small advertising board that flashes and blocks half of Enriques face. Is that common practice for Barca press conferences ? The same brands that flash on the board are the same ones littered all over the back ground wallpaper. Deep throat marketing. I now hate those brands even more than before.
Then Neymar gets interviewed in the tunnel .. he looks like he's been dressed by one direction, wearing a fucking daft fedora . Next thing... Boom... Alves totally blows him out of the water, rocks up dressed like Will.I.Am.
What a bunch of twats
Firstly. .. The post match presser....what the fuck! There is a small advertising board that flashes and blocks half of Enriques face. Is that common practice for Barca press conferences ? The same brands that flash on the board are the same ones littered all over the back ground wallpaper. Deep throat marketing. I now hate those brands even more than before.
Then Neymar gets interviewed in the tunnel .. he looks like he's been dressed by one direction, wearing a fucking daft fedora . Next thing... Boom... Alves totally blows him out of the water, rocks up dressed like Will.I.Am.
What a bunch of twats
Jeez Macca - if you can't enjoy watching at least 4 of the greatest players of all time then that's a real pity.
BTW if no-one else has mentioned this and I'm not quiffing ..... Cruyff has been diagnosed with lung cancer.
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