So will he get his chance now Kuyt is out? Just reading through a few articles and they suggest that something may have happened at half time in the Trabzonspor match, hence the substitution. He probably tried to 'tweet' about his goal. Anyway, what's Ryan's chances, and will he prove us wrong?
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*awaits the babel bashing floodgates to swing wide open*
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Squiggles
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[quote author=Paddy link=topic=41817.msg1171841#msg1171841 date=1284110581]
So will he get his chance now Kuyt is out? Just reading through a few articles and they suggest that something may have happened at half time in the Trabzonspor match, hence the substitution. He probably tried to 'tweet' about his goal. Anyway, what's Ryan's chances, and will he prove us wrong?
[/quote]
His substitution did seem very abrupt given his last touch was a lovely goal.
So will he get his chance now Kuyt is out? Just reading through a few articles and they suggest that something may have happened at half time in the Trabzonspor match, hence the substitution. He probably tried to 'tweet' about his goal. Anyway, what's Ryan's chances, and will he prove us wrong?
[/quote]
His substitution did seem very abrupt given his last touch was a lovely goal.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41817.msg1171851#msg1171851 date=1284111242]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=41817.msg1171841#msg1171841 date=1284110581]
So will he get his chance now Kuyt is out? Just reading through a few articles and they suggest that something may have happened at half time in the Trabzonspor match, hence the substitution. He probably tried to 'tweet' about his goal. Anyway, what's Ryan's chances, and will he prove us wrong?
[/quote]
His substitution did seem very abrupt given his last touch was a lovely goal.
[/quote]
babel said that he was told before the game he would only get 45 minutes regardless, because torres was going to get the other 45 minutes.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=41817.msg1171841#msg1171841 date=1284110581]
So will he get his chance now Kuyt is out? Just reading through a few articles and they suggest that something may have happened at half time in the Trabzonspor match, hence the substitution. He probably tried to 'tweet' about his goal. Anyway, what's Ryan's chances, and will he prove us wrong?
[/quote]
His substitution did seem very abrupt given his last touch was a lovely goal.
[/quote]
babel said that he was told before the game he would only get 45 minutes regardless, because torres was going to get the other 45 minutes.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41817.msg1171854#msg1171854 date=1284111400]
Didn't Babel say that the Torres sub was pre-determined?
[/quote]
Didn't see that. Anyway, I think he can still do something for us. I just wish he had the belief to go down the wing more, rather than cutting in all the time. He has the pace to bother any full back around.
Didn't Babel say that the Torres sub was pre-determined?
[/quote]
Didn't see that. Anyway, I think he can still do something for us. I just wish he had the belief to go down the wing more, rather than cutting in all the time. He has the pace to bother any full back around.
babel's problem is there is just no consistancy to him, when you write him off he'll turn up with a brilliant lyon goal and when you say he can't finish he'll turn up with a trabzonspor goal.
anyway, as I said before I would keep him because of his ability to change games even if he himself doesn't directly score or assist its often his unpredictability that creates the chance or space for others, for instance in fulham game where we needed to score to keep the pressure on manu, deep into injury time it was babel's direct run into the heart of the fulham defence that created the opening for gerrard who in turn passed for benny noon.
ho hum, what ever happens this season with babel, happens.
anyway, as I said before I would keep him because of his ability to change games even if he himself doesn't directly score or assist its often his unpredictability that creates the chance or space for others, for instance in fulham game where we needed to score to keep the pressure on manu, deep into injury time it was babel's direct run into the heart of the fulham defence that created the opening for gerrard who in turn passed for benny noon.
ho hum, what ever happens this season with babel, happens.
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the_khl
Guest
I've said it most early Seasons so it's got kind of hollow rung to it by now, but I REALLY believe DJ Babel could turn out to be an asset for us this coming Season.
There's something about him - whether it's his attitude or greenpurple aura I can't say - that gives me the impression that he somehow thrives the more under Roys guidance.
I know it was only a testimonial and all but the way he sprinted past Everton defenders was very encouraging to watch.
I'm yet again a Babel-fan.
There's something about him - whether it's his attitude or greenpurple aura I can't say - that gives me the impression that he somehow thrives the more under Roys guidance.
I know it was only a testimonial and all but the way he sprinted past Everton defenders was very encouraging to watch.
I'm yet again a Babel-fan.
Babel (the idea) is a lot better than Babel (the player).
Raw materials are there, but the guy's problem is mental. He just doesn't have the desire or drive to be one of the best. He's content with making a living from the bench and getting the odd chance of exposure, to enhance his rap career.
I've given up on him.
Raw materials are there, but the guy's problem is mental. He just doesn't have the desire or drive to be one of the best. He's content with making a living from the bench and getting the odd chance of exposure, to enhance his rap career.
I've given up on him.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41817.msg1171867#msg1171867 date=1284112915]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41817.msg1171850#msg1171850 date=1284111004]
Nah, nothing to bash.
Just another average player bought at a high price and who'll never justify his transfer fee.
[/quote]You shut your whore mouth!
[/quote]
Girl, you know it's true. 8)
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41817.msg1171850#msg1171850 date=1284111004]
Nah, nothing to bash.
Just another average player bought at a high price and who'll never justify his transfer fee.
[/quote]You shut your whore mouth!
[/quote]
Girl, you know it's true. 8)
T
the_khl
Guest
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41817.msg1171867#msg1171867 date=1284112915]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41817.msg1171850#msg1171850 date=1284111004]
Nah, nothing to bash.
Just another average player bought at a high price and who'll never justify his transfer fee.
[/quote]You shut your whore mouth!
[/quote]
Why the flying Harry-Potting-fuck can't I join your army your old fat wizard??!?!??
What's wrong with you?
Or is it me? Am I too Viking?
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41817.msg1171850#msg1171850 date=1284111004]
Nah, nothing to bash.
Just another average player bought at a high price and who'll never justify his transfer fee.
[/quote]You shut your whore mouth!
[/quote]
Why the flying Harry-Potting-fuck can't I join your army your old fat wizard??!?!??
What's wrong with you?
Or is it me? Am I too Viking?
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41817.msg1171873#msg1171873 date=1284113096]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41817.msg1171867#msg1171867 date=1284112915]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41817.msg1171850#msg1171850 date=1284111004]
Nah, nothing to bash.
Just another average player bought at a high price and who'll never justify his transfer fee.
[/quote]You shut your whore mouth!
[/quote]
Why the flying Harry-Potting-fuck can't I join your army your old fat wizard??!?!??
What's wrong with you?
Or is it me? Am I too Viking?
[/quote]
Must be an Agger thing.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41817.msg1171867#msg1171867 date=1284112915]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41817.msg1171850#msg1171850 date=1284111004]
Nah, nothing to bash.
Just another average player bought at a high price and who'll never justify his transfer fee.
[/quote]You shut your whore mouth!
[/quote]
Why the flying Harry-Potting-fuck can't I join your army your old fat wizard??!?!??
What's wrong with you?
Or is it me? Am I too Viking?
[/quote]
Must be an Agger thing.
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the attributes.
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the attributes.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171884#msg1171884 date=1284114229]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[/quote]
Yeah, rare moments.
Who knows, if Roy can instill some game intelligence (i'm not one of those who think it's all natural) and confidence in the lad, then he could a useful player. But again, I just don't see the desire, drive or hunger on Ryan's side of things, for him to ever be any good.
He tweets like he thinks he's a superstar and has already 'made it'. (and sometimes plays like that too)
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[/quote]
Yeah, rare moments.
Who knows, if Roy can instill some game intelligence (i'm not one of those who think it's all natural) and confidence in the lad, then he could a useful player. But again, I just don't see the desire, drive or hunger on Ryan's side of things, for him to ever be any good.
He tweets like he thinks he's a superstar and has already 'made it'. (and sometimes plays like that too)
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171892#msg1171892 date=1284114892]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171884#msg1171884 date=1284114229]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[/quote]
Yeah, rare moments.
Who knows, if Roy can instill some game intelligence (i'm not one of those who think it's all natural) and confidence in the lad, then he could a useful player. But again, I just don't see the desire, drive or hunger on Ryan's side of things, for him to ever be any good.
He tweets like he thinks he's a superstar and has already 'made it'. (and sometimes plays like that too)
[/quote]
and as a multi-millionaire in his mid 20s, he'd have a point.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171884#msg1171884 date=1284114229]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[/quote]
Yeah, rare moments.
Who knows, if Roy can instill some game intelligence (i'm not one of those who think it's all natural) and confidence in the lad, then he could a useful player. But again, I just don't see the desire, drive or hunger on Ryan's side of things, for him to ever be any good.
He tweets like he thinks he's a superstar and has already 'made it'. (and sometimes plays like that too)
[/quote]
and as a multi-millionaire in his mid 20s, he'd have a point.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171925#msg1171925 date=1284117166]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[/quote]
alonso?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[/quote]
alonso?
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41817.msg1171898#msg1171898 date=1284115384]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171892#msg1171892 date=1284114892]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171884#msg1171884 date=1284114229]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[/quote]
Yeah, rare moments.
Who knows, if Roy can instill some game intelligence (i'm not one of those who think it's all natural) and confidence in the lad, then he could a useful player. But again, I just don't see the desire, drive or hunger on Ryan's side of things, for him to ever be any good.
He tweets like he thinks he's a superstar and has already 'made it'. (and sometimes plays like that too)
[/quote]
and as a multi-millionaire in his mid 20s, he'd have a point.
[/quote]
Touché
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171892#msg1171892 date=1284114892]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171884#msg1171884 date=1284114229]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=41817.msg1171882#msg1171882 date=1284114046]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171877#msg1171877 date=1284113294]
pace
power
a thunderbolt of a shot
can finish when he is in the mood
babel really should be further along than he is as he has the tools and the physical attributes.
[/quote]
Unfortunately for Ryan, the game is 50% mental.
[/quote]
true, but there are moment when he does display intelligence, like the trabzonspor goal where he peals off the shoulder of the last defender, opens his body and clinically finishes.
[/quote]
Yeah, rare moments.
Who knows, if Roy can instill some game intelligence (i'm not one of those who think it's all natural) and confidence in the lad, then he could a useful player. But again, I just don't see the desire, drive or hunger on Ryan's side of things, for him to ever be any good.
He tweets like he thinks he's a superstar and has already 'made it'. (and sometimes plays like that too)
[/quote]
and as a multi-millionaire in his mid 20s, he'd have a point.
[/quote]
Touché
It's been the same every August/September since his first season, a bunch of people claiming "this will be his season", he will finally "fulfill his potential" etc.
Unfortunately for us Ryan Babel will never become a top player, the best we can hope for is an impact sub with the odd moment of brilliance
Unfortunately for us Ryan Babel will never become a top player, the best we can hope for is an impact sub with the odd moment of brilliance
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171927#msg1171927 date=1284117425]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171925#msg1171925 date=1284117166]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[/quote]
alonso?
[/quote]
No! I need a better example. Basically Ryan was put on a helicopter going to London at 3pm on deadline day, and told to sign for Spurs, West Ham, anyone, but not to come back until he had £9 mill in his pocket so we could use it to sign Carlton fucking Cole.
He didnt manage it so he came back on the train.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171925#msg1171925 date=1284117166]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[/quote]
alonso?
[/quote]
No! I need a better example. Basically Ryan was put on a helicopter going to London at 3pm on deadline day, and told to sign for Spurs, West Ham, anyone, but not to come back until he had £9 mill in his pocket so we could use it to sign Carlton fucking Cole.
He didnt manage it so he came back on the train.
[quote author=jan link=topic=41817.msg1171931#msg1171931 date=1284117747]
It's been the same every August/September since his first season, a bunch of people claiming "this will be his season", he will finally "fulfill his potential" etc.
Unfortunately for us Ryan Babel will never become a top player, the best we can hope for is an impact sub with the odd moment of brilliance
[/quote]
I'll take that, especially if it earns us points that would have slipped away.
It's been the same every August/September since his first season, a bunch of people claiming "this will be his season", he will finally "fulfill his potential" etc.
Unfortunately for us Ryan Babel will never become a top player, the best we can hope for is an impact sub with the odd moment of brilliance
[/quote]
I'll take that, especially if it earns us points that would have slipped away.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171933#msg1171933 date=1284117886]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171927#msg1171927 date=1284117425]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171925#msg1171925 date=1284117166]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[/quote]
alonso?
[/quote]
No! I need a better example. Basically Ryan was put on a helicopter going to London at 3pm on deadline day, and told to sign for Spurs, West Ham, anyone, but not to come back until he had £9 mill in his pocket so we could use it to sign Carlton fucking Cole.
He didnt manage it so he came back on the train.
[/quote]
the alonso example is pretty apt as the only reason he wasn't sold was juve refused to play (the pittence) we were asking for.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171927#msg1171927 date=1284117425]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171925#msg1171925 date=1284117166]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41817.msg1171910#msg1171910 date=1284116021]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41817.msg1171895#msg1171895 date=1284115138]
I think the fact that Roy put Ryan on a helicopter to London on deadline day, tells you all you need to know about Roy's opinion of Ryan
[/quote]
better players than babel have been a inch away from being sold before rescuing their career...
[/quote]
Im sure there are Neil but I just cant remember any of them getting such a clear message.
[/quote]
alonso?
[/quote]
No! I need a better example. Basically Ryan was put on a helicopter going to London at 3pm on deadline day, and told to sign for Spurs, West Ham, anyone, but not to come back until he had £9 mill in his pocket so we could use it to sign Carlton fucking Cole.
He didnt manage it so he came back on the train.
[/quote]
the alonso example is pretty apt as the only reason he wasn't sold was juve refused to play (the pittence) we were asking for.
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