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Ha. It takes two to Tango.
Kindly withdraw this defamatory insinuation or you'll be hearing from my solicitors in the morning. 😉
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It takes some doing for a highly talented and reasonably quiet fella to be detested by two of the four clubs he played for and deemed irrelevant by the other two. Loved by nobody. A highly lucrative but strange career.
This one is really sad because it's so close to the truth.
He could have been an all time legend of the kop if he'd stayed with us; he got hurried out the door by Rafa and his new kingdom but that was ok in my book. I had no grudge against him going to Real who were clearly the biggest club in the world at the time. When he left there and came back to Newcastle I thought that was poor; Rafa didn't really want him but Owen could have made it happen if he'd wanted to but chose the cash of the barcodes. Then he went to the mancs after declaring he'd never go there. He was diseased before he went there but dead to me when he did.
I don't care about him anymore; he was incredible for us for years but clearly never really understood the words of our anthem.
After that hamstring tear at Elland Road he went straight from being a fearless, joyful young kid to being a profoundly neurotic, joyless adult. That finished him in terms of potential. But as you say, the Newcastle move was a truly calamitous decision in terms of maximising his career.
He should've stayed at Madrid. He was getting sub appearances and scoring regularly. Morientes was on his way out and Fat Ronaldo was getting fatter by the day.
There was no rush to move and he would've walked into the England team as long as he was fit and scoring the odd goal.
There was no rush to move and he would've walked into the England team as long as he was fit and scoring the odd goal.
Agreed with Keni on this one. Should have stayed at Real. He was involved in 45 games in his first season, and it was a very strange move going to Newcastle. I hated his guts when he left for 8 mill, but laughed at him when we won the CL.
When he signed for Utd he was dead to me. And even though he was an excellent player for us he'll never be up there with the best after his career desicions.
When he signed for Utd he was dead to me. And even though he was an excellent player for us he'll never be up there with the best after his career desicions.
Owen is asking for it with all of this Twitter crap and self-promotion, maybe it's just me though, I don't think he's a bad person, I think he's just a bit self obsessed and didn't really actually play for anyone other than Michael Owen, he had ambition and wanted to be the best, without really having an affinity to anyone - we weren't exactly lovestruck either, like we were with Robbie. I just find all this baiting and abuse on Twitter a bit sad, I thought fans were better than that. We might be bitter about how it ended up, but he carried us for seasons singlehandedly, like Gerrard did. He might have kicked us in the teeth but personally, I'm not that arsed he went to United when he did, he wasn't a threat to anyone by that stage and just wanted the silverware. Only he will know much self satisfaction he's gained from playing a bit part in receiving those medals.Great player in his shortlived day and scored some important goals for us that helped us win a few cups, the Arsenal game being the most memorable for his part, he doesn't deserve much from anyone, I just don't think he deserves the level of abuse either. Let it go.
He was scoring goals just about every second game though; admittedly they were mostly subs but really he only had Raul who was going to keep him on the bench.
As for going elsewhere; Real were clearly trying to balance their books (as much as Madrid ever does that) so when he floated the option of coming back he just had to hold tough and force the move. If I remember we were supposedly going to offer 12m for him while Newcastle did something like 16 or 17m. If he'd held tight he could have ensured the two options were sign for LFC or stay at Madrid and keep scoring goals for a team that always made headlines.
Going to Newcastle was stupid; doing it over returning to Anfield was pathetic. He never really recovered from that move.
He was brought up really well by his parents and also Steve Heighway. He behaved pretty much impeccably when most players of his young age were gauche and often insensitive towards the fans. That's what makes Owen such a puzzle to me - in recent years he's seemed so different, allowing his management team to market him in increasingly tacky ways, saying the wrong thing needlessly, pointlessly winding up supporters of his ex-clubs, getting drawn into stupid little spats with creeps like Piers Morgan, etc etc. It's like another person, from hyper-tactful to hopelessly tactless.
Well....if so is it really so strange? Probably from the age of 11 or 12 he'd been annointed as this great future star, and up to about 25 pretty much everything people told him would happen came true.
For his career to just disintegrate completely at its peak is bound to have an effect on a person.
I don't feel sorry for him but I don't hate him either. People who hate him for going to Utd just seem kind of rabid to me. I'd have done the same thing in his place; Gerrard almost left for Chelsea at the peak of his powers, after just lifting our 5th European Cup, having supported LFC all his life, and receiving unlimited adulation from the supporters. None of which applied to Owen.
If Gerrard had gone to the Chavs then, despite the "enlightened few" who claimed it was his right to seek the success, he'd have needed an armoured tank to go anywhere around Liverpool. Owen made it worse by declaring that he'd never play for united and then doing it without a whiff of discomfort.
True, but that was after being helped out the door by Rafa, then seeing us make only a half-arsed effort to bring him back, then being mocked and barracked by LFC fans while struggling at Newcastle - the same fans who never particularly warmed to him in the first place - then seeing his career whimper out, and then being given a final and completely unexpected shot at winning trophies at the most irresistible trophy-winning machine in world football.
People who honestly expected him to turn down that chance in order to honour a glibly given assurance in different times were living in a fantasy world, IMHO. Maybe that's what it takes to be a true supporter, but it doesn't really work for me.
People who honestly expected him to turn down that chance in order to honour a glibly given assurance in different times were living in a fantasy world, IMHO. Maybe that's what it takes to be a true supporter, but it doesn't really work for me.
He got booed by our fans when he was playing for newcastle... Why should he bother about not playing for United anymore, when we had made it abundantly clear that we dont like or appreciate that he represented our club well for a really long time.
Half-@rsed effort to bring him back? No more so than Owen's own part in the proceedings. We offered what we thought he was worth, and he himself could have done a darn sight more to force a move if he was that dead set on one.
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Not the money, but from what I heard we made very little effort to make him feel wanted when he met with us. Which isn't really surprising, because I don't think Rafa *did* particularly want him, anymore than he did in 2004. I think mixed feelings within the club, plus the fact we didn't have the money for it, basically added up to a half-arsed effort, even if it was understandable. That's bound to affect any feelings of loyalty he might've had towards us a bit.
Weirdly I agree with pretty much all of that; as I've discussed with Jules on many occasions, it was fairly clear that Rafa engineered the move our of Liverpool as he didn't fit his plans. Owen put up little resistance to leaving and put up a similar effort in making the return. That's the part I didn't like; he claimed for 12 months that he always looked for us first but then wasn't willing to make the effort to return. All the claims of "my blood bleeds red" etc sounded very hollow.
How is he 'down' given the first part of your post?
Hes an irksome little fucking bellend and deserves a far bigger pasting than he gets.
'....the pathetic thing is some fans kicking......'
Grow up ffs.
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