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What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
aqualini = keane mark 2?
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1062926#msg1062926 date=1267536067]
What other explanation could there be?
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I think it could be a case of Rafa simply not trusting him to find his feet quickly. With the situation as it stands, we simply cannot afford to drop points. As such, Rafa, by nature, is likely to go with what he knows rather than gamble with a new player.
His scientific approach does not lend itself to unknown quantities. As horrifically mediocre as Lucas is, he's becoming quite consistent at it, so at the very least Rafa knows what he'll get from him.
I suspect the only times we'll see Aquilani this season is when we're a) winning comfortably, b) playing cannon fodder (if there is such a things for us these days) at Anfield or c) fucking desperate.
What other explanation could there be?
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I think it could be a case of Rafa simply not trusting him to find his feet quickly. With the situation as it stands, we simply cannot afford to drop points. As such, Rafa, by nature, is likely to go with what he knows rather than gamble with a new player.
His scientific approach does not lend itself to unknown quantities. As horrifically mediocre as Lucas is, he's becoming quite consistent at it, so at the very least Rafa knows what he'll get from him.
I suspect the only times we'll see Aquilani this season is when we're a) winning comfortably, b) playing cannon fodder (if there is such a things for us these days) at Anfield or c) fucking desperate.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39094.msg1062930#msg1062930 date=1267536467]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
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That's laughable horseshit
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
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That's laughable horseshit
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39094.msg1062930#msg1062930 date=1267536467]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
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Fuck. Me.
Straws meet sweaty retarded fat hand, you are about to be grasped.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
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Fuck. Me.
Straws meet sweaty retarded fat hand, you are about to be grasped.
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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39094.msg1062931#msg1062931 date=1267536626]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1062926#msg1062926 date=1267536067]
What other explanation could there be?
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I think it could be a case of Rafa simply not trusting him to find his feet quickly. With the situation as it stands, we simply cannot afford to drop points. As such, Rafa, by nature, is likely to go with what he knows rather than gamble with a new player.
His scientific approach does not lend itself to unknown quantities. As horrifically mediocre as Lucas is, he's becoming quite consistent at it, so at the very least Rafa knows what he'll get from him.
I suspect the only times we'll see Aquilani this season is when we're a) winning comfortably, b) playing cannon fodder (if there is such a things for us these days) at Anfield or c) fucking desperate.
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Yup, good post.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1062926#msg1062926 date=1267536067]
What other explanation could there be?
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I think it could be a case of Rafa simply not trusting him to find his feet quickly. With the situation as it stands, we simply cannot afford to drop points. As such, Rafa, by nature, is likely to go with what he knows rather than gamble with a new player.
His scientific approach does not lend itself to unknown quantities. As horrifically mediocre as Lucas is, he's becoming quite consistent at it, so at the very least Rafa knows what he'll get from him.
I suspect the only times we'll see Aquilani this season is when we're a) winning comfortably, b) playing cannon fodder (if there is such a things for us these days) at Anfield or c) fucking desperate.
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Yup, good post.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39094.msg1062368#msg1062368 date=1267450627]
looking at our squad in the harsh light of day, johnson is one of the VERY few quality players we have.
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Reina, Mascharano, Gerrard, Torres, Agger. A bit more than few, but admittedly not nearly enough
looking at our squad in the harsh light of day, johnson is one of the VERY few quality players we have.
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Reina, Mascharano, Gerrard, Torres, Agger. A bit more than few, but admittedly not nearly enough
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1062932#msg1062932 date=1267536643]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39094.msg1062930#msg1062930 date=1267536467]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
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That's laughable horseshit
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just giving a possible alternative to 'rafa thinks he's shite'.
personally I'm not in the least bit bothered (of aqua's exclusion) as I haven't seen enough of aqua to be the slightest bit annoyed that he is getting left out, the only thing that is bothering me is the 20m that could (and possibly should) have been spent elsewhere.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39094.msg1062930#msg1062930 date=1267536467]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39094.msg1062927#msg1062927 date=1267536086]
What else is there, Spidey?
Aquilani's father has said he's been fit for months and months.
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as many have said he could be saving him for next season giving him a full preseason. aqua has a history of injuries so he (rafa) may be treating him overly carefully.
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That's laughable horseshit
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just giving a possible alternative to 'rafa thinks he's shite'.
personally I'm not in the least bit bothered (of aqua's exclusion) as I haven't seen enough of aqua to be the slightest bit annoyed that he is getting left out, the only thing that is bothering me is the 20m that could (and possibly should) have been spent elsewhere.
Maybe he is actually a she, and Rafa dare not let her get changed at the same time as the rest of the team. For fear of a mass orgy ten minutes before KO.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061768#msg1061768 date=1267377291]
It's obvious he has more talent and is more incisive than Lucas, but that's not really hard is it?
Certainly being 'better than Lucas' was about the bottom rung of my expectations for a 20m player who was bought to replace Xabi Alonso
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Least Keane was given a chance and proved he was shit, Aquilani isnt even getting a chance to show if he is good enough.
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I don't think Keane was. He needs to play in a 442 with a partner and never really got that here.
Agreed Aquaman has never been given any sort of a chance and should never have been bought.
There are so many prem cm that would have done a way better job than him and for less.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061768#msg1061768 date=1267377291]
It's obvious he has more talent and is more incisive than Lucas, but that's not really hard is it?
Certainly being 'better than Lucas' was about the bottom rung of my expectations for a 20m player who was bought to replace Xabi Alonso
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Least Keane was given a chance and proved he was shit, Aquilani isnt even getting a chance to show if he is good enough.
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I don't think Keane was. He needs to play in a 442 with a partner and never really got that here.
Agreed Aquaman has never been given any sort of a chance and should never have been bought.
There are so many prem cm that would have done a way better job than him and for less.
Who Dreamy? Lucarse or Purple Aqui?
(Or both)
(Or both)
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061892#msg1061892 date=1267389161]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=39094.msg1061875#msg1061875 date=1267386808]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061863#msg1061863 date=1267384890]
Bollocks, probably, but it is exactly what Benitez has actually said
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i just can't believe that's true.
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That whole pathetic, disgraceful Benitez/ Barry/ Keane interview was one of the two moments that made me belatedly realise that we need to fuck Benitez off.
The other was his starting XI against Spurs at the beginning of the season, when it was obvious - even in August - we were going to struggle.
Ah well.
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100% agree.
After day 1, some of said we would battling for fourth not 1st and were ranted at left right and centre.
Obviously I've never kicked a ball in my life.
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=39094.msg1061875#msg1061875 date=1267386808]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061863#msg1061863 date=1267384890]
Bollocks, probably, but it is exactly what Benitez has actually said
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i just can't believe that's true.
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That whole pathetic, disgraceful Benitez/ Barry/ Keane interview was one of the two moments that made me belatedly realise that we need to fuck Benitez off.
The other was his starting XI against Spurs at the beginning of the season, when it was obvious - even in August - we were going to struggle.
Ah well.
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100% agree.
After day 1, some of said we would battling for fourth not 1st and were ranted at left right and centre.
Obviously I've never kicked a ball in my life.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061935#msg1061935 date=1267392185]
Hmmm, not sure about that one Dreamy.
I suppose there is a "priority/ cost" argument, but I was - and still am - happy that we signed Magic, because I think he's a very good player and one of the best RBs in Europe.
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I really like GJ but he's not a defender and his run of games before injury proved that. He cost to much for what he offers.
We couldn't afford another striker but we spent 18m on a right back. It was very poor judgement on Rafa's part. We have looked so much more solid since magic has been out.
Hmmm, not sure about that one Dreamy.
I suppose there is a "priority/ cost" argument, but I was - and still am - happy that we signed Magic, because I think he's a very good player and one of the best RBs in Europe.
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I really like GJ but he's not a defender and his run of games before injury proved that. He cost to much for what he offers.
We couldn't afford another striker but we spent 18m on a right back. It was very poor judgement on Rafa's part. We have looked so much more solid since magic has been out.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061935#msg1061935 date=1267392185]
Hmmm, not sure about that one Dreamy.
I suppose there is a "priority/ cost" argument, but I was - and still am - happy that we signed Magic, because I think he's a very good player and one of the best RBs in Europe.
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I really like GJ but he's not a defender and his run of games before injury proved that. He cost to much for what he offers.
We couldn't afford another striker but we spent 18m on a right back. It was very poor judgement on Rafa's part. We have looked so much more solid since magic has been out.
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I thought you we're advocating Rafa to be sacked if he payed 17 million for a right back and then not playing him there?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1061935#msg1061935 date=1267392185]
Hmmm, not sure about that one Dreamy.
I suppose there is a "priority/ cost" argument, but I was - and still am - happy that we signed Magic, because I think he's a very good player and one of the best RBs in Europe.
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I really like GJ but he's not a defender and his run of games before injury proved that. He cost to much for what he offers.
We couldn't afford another striker but we spent 18m on a right back. It was very poor judgement on Rafa's part. We have looked so much more solid since magic has been out.
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I thought you we're advocating Rafa to be sacked if he payed 17 million for a right back and then not playing him there?
Uh oh
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39094.msg1062770#msg1062770 date=1267519391]
I fear that one of my favourite ever signings is going to be a footnote in our history. He will almost certainly be off in Summer. My hope was that a new manager would play him where he should be played and regularly too, but Rafa will begets next year now. So erm yeah Aquilani will only ever be seen as a failure if he isn't given a chance to play.
The list of players who Rafa has hindered at this club is probably as long as those he's improved.
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Oncy, your tone initimates that we've bought quality but it's Rafa's fault he's not showing it.
That's not entirely true or fair is it?
I fear that one of my favourite ever signings is going to be a footnote in our history. He will almost certainly be off in Summer. My hope was that a new manager would play him where he should be played and regularly too, but Rafa will begets next year now. So erm yeah Aquilani will only ever be seen as a failure if he isn't given a chance to play.
The list of players who Rafa has hindered at this club is probably as long as those he's improved.
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Oncy, your tone initimates that we've bought quality but it's Rafa's fault he's not showing it.
That's not entirely true or fair is it?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39094.msg1063181#msg1063181 date=1267566339]
Uh oh
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Tut tut Pat. I defended you in the oher thread when you said this
Bottom line GJ should be at RB or Rafa should not be at the club.
If you spunk 18m on a f*cking right back you better play him there or you should be get the boot.
Now your contradicting it by saying he is not a defender, and we're more solid without him.
Uh oh
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Tut tut Pat. I defended you in the oher thread when you said this
Bottom line GJ should be at RB or Rafa should not be at the club.
If you spunk 18m on a f*cking right back you better play him there or you should be get the boot.
Now your contradicting it by saying he is not a defender, and we're more solid without him.
I know fuck all about Tommy Smyth but it sounds like you're right on the money.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39094.msg1063192#msg1063192 date=1267566555]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39094.msg1062770#msg1062770 date=1267519391]
I fear that one of my favourite ever signings is going to be a footnote in our history. He will almost certainly be off in Summer. My hope was that a new manager would play him where he should be played and regularly too, but Rafa will begets next year now. So erm yeah Aquilani will only ever be seen as a failure if he isn't given a chance to play.
The list of players who Rafa has hindered at this club is probably as long as those he's improved.
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Oncy, your tone initimates that we've bought quality but it's Rafa's fault he's not showing it.
That's not entirely true or fair is it?
[/quote]He cant show it if he doesnt play Ryan. We already know (its clear) that Rafa doesnt rate him/trust him, so he wont play. The ONLY way he will have a career at Liverpool is if Gerrard leaves in summer or Rafa does.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39094.msg1062770#msg1062770 date=1267519391]
I fear that one of my favourite ever signings is going to be a footnote in our history. He will almost certainly be off in Summer. My hope was that a new manager would play him where he should be played and regularly too, but Rafa will begets next year now. So erm yeah Aquilani will only ever be seen as a failure if he isn't given a chance to play.
The list of players who Rafa has hindered at this club is probably as long as those he's improved.
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Oncy, your tone initimates that we've bought quality but it's Rafa's fault he's not showing it.
That's not entirely true or fair is it?
[/quote]He cant show it if he doesnt play Ryan. We already know (its clear) that Rafa doesnt rate him/trust him, so he wont play. The ONLY way he will have a career at Liverpool is if Gerrard leaves in summer or Rafa does.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39094.msg1063316#msg1063316 date=1267571437]
Haha. I watched a stream of the Everton Vs United game the other day and he was in th studio.
He is from Louth, just had a look at his wiki page. Liked this bit:
Popularity
He is rated as one of the most annoying commentators according to football fans
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So he is a less erudite and articulate version of Stan Staunton then?
Haha. I watched a stream of the Everton Vs United game the other day and he was in th studio.
He is from Louth, just had a look at his wiki page. Liked this bit:
Popularity
He is rated as one of the most annoying commentators according to football fans
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So he is a less erudite and articulate version of Stan Staunton then?
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