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I’m not a twat like. But I booked my travel before I got a ticket.

I’d still be going now without one.

I'm not calling people going without tickets twats. I'm saying that the twats administering the club don't like that idea at all. Putting the tinfoil hat again, the seeming participation of the club in setting horrendous prices for transport might be another means of sifting off undesirable scallies.
 
Most of my mates who have a lot of disposable income are undesirable scallies.
Again, the Lizard element doesn’t think that way. Money in America = respectability. You can bang porn stars and boast about grabbing women’s twats and get to be president if you’re rich.
 
Anyhoo, I’m sure it’s just a massively unlikely statistical coincidence with no reptilian thinking at all behind it....
 
Horrible scenario.

The overseas supporters clubs makes sense as does jacking up Airline prices to get keep as much riff raff away as possible.

Fans that travelled to more than half the away games should have gotten tickets automatically too.
 
These cunts like the idea of wealthy family daytrippers of the kind that pack Fenway every week. Not passionate, boozy lads who sing themselves hoarse.
 
Getting more tickets for real fans has always been an issue and will continue to be the same. Next year it’s in Ateltico’s new stadium and the year after its either Lisbon or back at the ataturk. None of which are 90,000 stadia.
 
These cunts like the idea of wealthy family daytrippers of the kind that pack Fenway every week. Not passionate, boozy lads who sing themselves hoarse.

Yeah, the difference in American sport and English is interesting. Going to watch the baseball or football in the states is an all-day, leisurely, family affair, with beers, tacos, multiple intermissions, and not actually that much noise, aggro or even passion.

It's hard to keep up any passion for three or four hours when you're full of Miller Lite and tacos, and the additional sideline entertainment and pre-match fucking whatever, turns it into an expensive spectacle and day out that seems to justify the higher entry price.

It's so, so, different.

Naturally I hated it and left early when I went to the Shea Stadium
 
I had a laugh at the basketball at MSG... the NYN scored in the last second to win their first in 9, so the place went fucking mental... but there was only a few of us there until the last quarter. Dude next to me said they all watch it in the pub and only come in if it looks like they've got a chance.
 
I had a laugh at the basketball at MSG... the NYN scored in the last second to win their first in 9, so the place went fucking mental... but there was only a few of us there until the last quarter. Dude next to me said they all watch it in the pub and only come in if it looks like they've got a chance.

I left the base ball before the last innings or whatever, and it seemed as if that was quite a popular time to leave. But as I've said loads of times, half the time the people actually there weren't watching the game anyway; there's areas to drink and eat actually inside the stadium that have no view of the game at all. And they're busy.

As for basketball, that seems almost pointless until that last quarter, so I can totally get that attitude.

Also, Americans can't do chants or decent abuse, or singing. All you ever hear is 'You suck!' and 'you're a bum!'
 
Yeah, I rex if I lived in North America I'd be into the Ice Hockey. All the other stuff is gash. I was just making the point that the last bit of the Basketball was ace. Funny, me and Mrs Woland had just had an ace meal not too far away, and we'd been on the ale all day, and every bar we were in the sports news would come on and some dude would be asking random New Yorkers about the 8 game losing streak and there was loads of 'If we don't win tonight that mofo can get the hell out of town' etc, so the build up was cool, I didn't think a game in an arena that only holds 17k in a city of 8million people would be such a big deal around town... so anyways I got quite into the game, and by the end I was drunk out my mind and I really wanted them to win, and when they did with like 1 second to go I was on my feet going nuts with all the guys around me like I'd supported them since I was a kid, the place was going nuts like when Lovren scored against Dortmund... and I look to my left, and there's Mrs Woland, fast asleep.
 
Mrs Athens can also fall asleep anywhere, and will sleep through most things except an earthquake above 4 on the scale. For someone who is "afraid" of flying she finds it pretty easy to sleep on a plane too.

It wrecks me that I can't do the same.
 
Anyways, did anyone hear Wenker yesterday saying that in the next couple of seasons the CL would be weekends and national leagues played in the week? He said it as though it had already been decided and was inevitable.
 
I seem to remember that getting tickets for Istanbul wasn't that hard, while for Athens and now Kiev it was a nightmare.

So why was Istanbul relatively easy?
 
Anyways, did anyone hear Wenker yesterday saying that in the next couple of seasons the CL would be weekends and national leagues played in the week? He said it as though it had already been decided and was inevitable.
I can't see that getting past the Premier league vote. The entire league has a vote & they'd effectively be voting for less tv rights money for everyone not in the top four.

Not much would surprise me in football so there could be a way to placate them I suppose, but it'd be a huge shakeup.
 
I seem to remember that getting tickets for Istanbul wasn't that hard, while for Athens and now Kiev it was a nightmare.

So why was Istanbul relatively easy?

Like with everything, social media has blown everything off the charts. It's made things people like accessible 24/7 instead of when you could catch a moment about it on the radio, so many more get obsessed with stuff. See bands reforming and being instantly ten times bigger than they were when they were cool etc.
 
I honestly don't know how hard it was getting Athens tickets as I didn't even try. The lack of turnstiles was known about in advance
 
I don’t know. It’s just fucking weird.

Unless me, Woland and da huge just know some very unlucky people.

Mate from Belfast and his mates had 8 cards in the ballot and not one was successful. The whole thing stinks.
 
Defo. They probably see me as a cost, rocking up at 5 to 3 and spending fuck all in the ground, sat next to someone who travelled for miles and spent 300 quid in the club shop and 30 quid on hotdogs.

Don't forget £4 on a half pint of warm Carlsberg.
 
They have all gone corporate. I dont know why you are all surprised.
If each of the massive corporate sponsors gets say 500 tickets each (Coke, Ford, Amstell or whomever sponsors this shit) and each of the other ones get say 100 each thats half the fucking ground gone.

The all the people who own the corporate boxes at Anfield and the Bernabeau get dibs (the Wembley boxes hold 40 so I would assume ours are similar) lets say there are 100 corporate at ours and 150 at theirs thats another 10’000 gone.

They can say the Liverpool fans get 16’000 or 20’000 or whatever but what actually hits the matchdays fans hands?

Couple of thousand?
 
My former boss who is the Director at a big UK company said he could get as many as he wanted. I dont think he was showing bravado. Thats just the way it works. Im fairly sure if he wanted he could get 30 or 40 tickets.


Woland nailed it. Hes a drain on the clubs POTENTIAL earnings.
 
The flashmob of Ukrainians hosting fans for the final is getting bigger and bigger. At this rate each of you who makes it to Ukraine will be greeted by a full military parade and stay in the Presidential Palace 🙂

Meet the Ukrainian MP hosting Champions League final fans for free

Margaryta Chornokondratenko, Alessandra Prentice

KIEV (Reuters) - Ukrainian lawmaker Yegor Sobolev and his family decided to invite soccer fans to stay in their home for free when they heard hotels had aggressively raised prices for the night of the Champions League final on May 26. Many hotels and apartments are asking several thousand dollars for accommodation that normally costs around $50 per night or cancelling existing bookings to charge higher rates for the expected influx of around 50,000 supporters. To promote a welcoming image of Ukraine, Ukrainians have taken to social media to offer supporters spare beds, lifts from the airport and even home-cooked meals of borscht, a traditional beetroot soup.

Even President Petro Poroshenko has offered to host a few fans to make up for the lack of affordable accommodation in the capital over the weekend of the final between Liverpool and Spain’s Real Madrid.
Opposition MP Sobolev, his wife and three children have agreed to hand over the keys to their apartment in central Kiev to a Liverpool supporter and his young daughter.
“I don’t think this is a risky idea. This is a pleasant and powerful way to connect people from different countries and continents,” he told Reuters in his apartment.
“That is what football means,” he said, surrounded by his children including his soccer-mad son Misha, 11, who was wearing full Liverpool kit.
This is not the first time the family have hosted strangers. In 2014, they invited a family to stay for three months who had fled pro-Russian separatist fighting in eastern Ukraine.

Kiev’s outpouring of hospitality stems in part from a desire to show the country has recovered from the worst of a political and economic crisis sparked by a 2013/14 pro-European uprising and subsequent separatist conflict.
A Facebook group called ‘Kyiv FREE couch’ that matches Ukrainians offering free accommodation with soccer supporters in need of a place to stay has gained over 5,000 members since its launch on May 5.
“This group should be called ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’,” member Zibby Puculek said in a post, referring to the Liverpool club anthem. “You are very, very nice people.”
 
The flashmob of Ukrainians hosting fans for the final is getting bigger and bigger. At this rate each of you who makes it to Ukraine will be greeted by a full military parade and stay in the Presidential Palace 🙂
Aha...new PR occasion for Poroshenko.
The government better be checking the violation of the price rates that just joing this free couch movement for PR 😡
 
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