Allen to Stoke for £13m Agreed
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Didn't we offer him a new contact at some point but he wanted assurances about playing time?
If we were going to lose him in a year anyhow it is probably best to get a fee for him now and use this season to bed in his replacement in the squad.
He seemed like a decent lad and was a good pro so hopefully he makes a success of it for himself elsewhere as long as it doesn't impact on the success of liverpool
If we were going to lose him in a year anyhow it is probably best to get a fee for him now and use this season to bed in his replacement in the squad.
He seemed like a decent lad and was a good pro so hopefully he makes a success of it for himself elsewhere as long as it doesn't impact on the success of liverpool
Nice guy and a nice footballer, but he was never really dynamic enough to be a starter in a top side. He was more influential at Swansea than he ever was here where Rodgers seem to restrict him as a holding midfielder which he didn't seem suited to. He looked better under Klopp because he played him in a more advanced role against tired legs. That shouldn't mark the fact he wasn't good enough to start week in, week out. Klopp both saw and used him as an option. His preference, I believe is to have two big, tall strong CM's at the base of midfielder who can compete in aerial duals when teams are trying to bypass our press. I think we'll see a lot of Grujic and Can for this very reason - with Lucas and Allen both consistently linked with moves away.
I genuinely hope he does well for them and wish him the best of luck.
I genuinely hope he does well for them and wish him the best of luck.
just a little bit of sentimentality before the inevitable departure. He did well in the Euros, but yes, you're right, bite their hand off.
Goodbye sweet prince.
Good business in the end.
Nice player Allen, in an age where athletes are preferable to footballers. All the best Joe.
If klopp really rated him they would have offered him a new contract and he would have played him in the big games from the start.
It is possible to think someone is both a wonderful footballer and also not quite fit into your 5 year plan for a club the intended level of Liverpool. Not mutually opposing ideas.
Klopp does not seem like the insincere type to me.
Good player but not quite good enough. Made a good team better but not capable of pulling a mediocre team up by the bootstraps.
Like him, as a person and a player. Best wishes, except against us.
Like him, as a person and a player. Best wishes, except against us.
Wouldn't say he is injury prone (the Sturridge type) but he tends to miss games through injuries suffered every other 2-3 months. Definitely doesn't help with securing starting XI position and maintaining form and fitness.
Still getting sold though, isn't he.
Yes he did. And then he'd not pick him for the next game. Which is perhaps more telling.
He did the same with Sturridge last year too.
The situations are hardly comparable. Sturridge was clearly being nursed back to strength after repeated injuries. Allen was fit but left on the bench.
"It's not you, Joe - it's me"
My point was that you can only choose 11 players to play, and given we (like most other clubs) have more than 11 good players, there are always going to be players that the manager rates who don't necessarily get in the team. Beyond his injuries, Sturridge was dropped in favour or Origi last year. Doesn't mean the manager doesn't rate him.
It's the same with Allen. I believe Klopp rates him, and rates him highly, and the fact he's being sold shouldn't reflect on Allen's lack of 'fit' within Klopp's side, more that Allen's the sort that wants to play and Klopp couldn't guarantee that. Plus the fact he has a year left on his contract and can get 13M for him.
Ah shame really. If Stoke have really got him they have done well. 13mill seems about right to me.
He obviously doesn't think he's shite Ryan, but the fact remains that he clearly saw Sturridge as a much more important player than Allen and he repeatedly left Allen out of the team in the biggest matches which was generally not true of Sturridge. Against Dortmund, Villareal, the Europa final, the League cup final etc etc., Allen was on the bench.
He clearly rated him less than his other midfield options.
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