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When every player wants to play for you that gives you a position of strength when it comes to deals. We don't have that luxury so have to pay more.

Sure when a club like Madrid show their interest in you and your contract is up it's very likely that's where you'll end up, take Madrid out the equation then why wouldn't we have that luxury?
 
Mac Allister’s contract clause

It has been an unforgettable season for Alexis Mac Allister — the Argentina international won the World Cup and is now spearheading Brighton & Hove Albion’s bid to earn European qualification.
Mac Allister’s performances have generated intense speculation regarding his future, with the likes of Liverpool and Manchester United among the 24-year-old’s suitors as the transfer market nears.
Despite signing a new contract in October that secured him until 2025, there is a good chance the midfielder will be sold and there has been lots of debate about whether or not the deal includes a release clause.

It is understood the terms do, indeed, contain a mechanism which can be used to help facilitate a move and that has contributed to the level of interest building to prise Mac Allister from Brighton.
This is thought not to be a typical release clause other clubs may simply trigger, leaving the player to choose their next step, but a more complex feature that gives Brighton a say over the outcome.
As a result, the situation is not a foregone conclusion and there is no agreement in place for Mac Allister to leave the Amex Stadium. Although that could well materialise — the same applies to team-mate Moises Caicedo — but firm decisions are unlikely to be made until the campaign ends.
 
Mac Allister’s contract clause

It has been an unforgettable season for Alexis Mac Allister — the Argentina international won the World Cup and is now spearheading Brighton & Hove Albion’s bid to earn European qualification.
Mac Allister’s performances have generated intense speculation regarding his future, with the likes of Liverpool and Manchester United among the 24-year-old’s suitors as the transfer market nears.
Despite signing a new contract in October that secured him until 2025, there is a good chance the midfielder will be sold and there has been lots of debate about whether or not the deal includes a release clause.

It is understood the terms do, indeed, contain a mechanism which can be used to help facilitate a move and that has contributed to the level of interest building to prise Mac Allister from Brighton.
This is thought not to be a typical release clause other clubs may simply trigger, leaving the player to choose their next step, but a more complex feature that gives Brighton a say over the outcome.
As a result, the situation is not a foregone conclusion and there is no agreement in place for Mac Allister to leave the Amex Stadium. Although that could well materialise — the same applies to team-mate Moises Caicedo — but firm decisions are unlikely to be made until the campaign ends.

A completely baffling description of a clause that seems to do nothing at all. Ornstein is either has a poor command of written English, or hasn't been told what this clause is, and is doing verbal gymnastics as a favour to his source from Brighton or LFC.

If I had to guess, it would be a clause that allows us to speak to Mac Allister without Brighton's prior approval, and agree personal terms before making an official bid. Other than that it's a normal transfer.

Nothing else makes sense.
 
More like, "a bid above £xM forces Brighton to consider it formally and negotiate terms in their favour that exceed the fee"
 
A completely baffling description of a clause that seems to do nothing at all. Ornstein is either has a poor command of written English, or hasn't been told what this clause is, and is doing verbal gymnastics as a favour to his source from Brighton or LFC.

If I had to guess, it would be a clause that allows us to speak to Mac Allister without Brighton's prior approval, and agree personal terms before making an official bid. Other than that it's a normal transfer.

Nothing else makes sense.
In other words, a contract-- some of the quality of what passes off as journalism these days is shocking.
 
Could there be a set fee in the clause but Brighton get to dictate how it’s paid or choose between offers based on method of payment?

So they have the right to choose a lump sum over instalments?

Just pointless speculation though really but nobody in their right mind ties themselves to Brighton indefinitely in the midst of a good season with a potential showcase for one of the worlds top footballing countries coming in the next month. He’s got a wage bump in exchange for a reasonable fee clause imo.
 
Could there be a set fee in the clause but Brighton get to dictate how it’s paid or choose between offers based on method of payment?

So they have the right to choose a lump sum over instalments?

Just pointless speculation though really but nobody in their right mind ties themselves to Brighton indefinitely in the midst of a good season with a potential showcase for one of the worlds top footballing countries coming in the next month. He’s got a wage bump in exchange for a reasonable fee clause imo.
I thought all fees are paid over an extended period, often the length of the player’s initial contract?
 
I thought all fees are paid over an extended period, often the length of the player’s initial contract?

This is a beamrider question but i think that’s how the buyer would have a transfer in their own accounts but the selling party can demand any terms they want. It’s part of the reason we bought Jota from what i recall, wolves were open to instalments over a long period.
 
I thought all fees are paid over an extended period, often the length of the player’s initial contract?
3 instalments is standard - 1/3 up-front and then 1/3 on each of the 1st and 2nd anniversaries. Agent fees usually follow the same pattern.
Barcelona seem to prefer paying in 5 x 6-monthly instalments (they did with Suarez) so possibly the Spanish league, where players are also paid 6-monthly, follows a slightly different pattern (and probably for that precise reason).
However, a lot of release clauses require the money all in one go, up-front - I believe this may be what made us cool on Timo Werner (bullet dodged).
 
I think Mac Allister looks dead good, but we don't really play with attacking mids. Yeah I know we don't play with any mids at the minute so having someone with a load of energy in there would be a massive improvement, but being skillful and getting in the box isn't really what klopp wants from his sideways passing ball winner backers.
 
I think Mac Allister looks dead good, but we don't really play with attacking mids. Yeah I know we don't play with any mids at the minute so having someone with a load of energy in there would be a massive improvement, but being skillful and getting in the box isn't really what klopp wants from his sideways passing ball winner backers.

If we were trying to sign a 25 year old Wijnaldum right now would we be saying the same though?
 
Well some people tell me he's a DM, but as I only ever see highlights of Brighton I only ever see him running into the box doing the kinda stuff you'd expect from, I dunno, shakiri, carvalho, elliot, etc. I don't want another square peg for zillions of quid, but my knowledge isn't exactly boundless here.
 
Translation:

Liverpool is advancing more and more for Alexis Mac Allister: the proposal is already under analysis by the father and agent of the national team's soccer player and is a contract until December 2028.

The final decision will be made when he finishes competing with Brighton.
 
Teamtalk (shit source..I know) reporting Brighton would be willing to do a deal Kelleher + 40m
 
3 instalments is standard - 1/3 up-front and then 1/3 on each of the 1st and 2nd anniversaries. Agent fees usually follow the same pattern.
Barcelona seem to prefer paying in 5 x 6-monthly instalments (they did with Suarez) so possibly the Spanish league, where players are also paid 6-monthly, follows a slightly different pattern (and probably for that precise reason).
However, a lot of release clauses require the money all in one go, up-front - I believe this may be what made us cool on Timo Werner (bullet dodged).

How many 6 monthly instalments do Barca still owe us for Coutinho?
 
We do need some proper mobility around this lad. A bit like with Thiago.
So, next lad must be a proper monster.
 
I rate MacAllister, however I'm inclined to agree.

I find it really worrying that we seem to be focusing all our attention on PL hype players.

It's not to say these players are all bad, it's just that they represent really poor value for money and given that we seem to spend our lives crying about money, it's a really strange market to do home in on.
Wholeheartedly agree with this. I've expressed concerns about the likes of Caicedo before now. A better (and cheaper) strategy might be to initially agree to sign Caicedo/Mac Allister for silly money, wait to see who Brighton line up as a replacement, then pull out of the deal and sign them instead.

I'm kidding, of course, but we really need to find these players before they have their breakout Premier League season, not after. One good season in the Premier League seems to add £50m to your price tag these days. And it's not just the inflated fee that's the problem; it's that it's based on very limited evidence. Any player can have a purple patch - we could end up blowing half our transfer budget on a journeyman.
 
We're linked with about 15-20 midfielders from both the PL and other leagues. I think our signings will be a mix of both.
If we believe that Mac Allister is the correct part of our new midfield it shouldnt matter if he plays in the PL.
 
Well some people tell me he's a DM, but as I only ever see highlights of Brighton I only ever see him running into the box doing the kinda stuff you'd expect from, I dunno, shakiri, carvalho, elliot, etc. I don't want another square peg for zillions of quid, but my knowledge isn't exactly boundless here.

He plays both positions with the same ease. Sometimes switching positions during the games. He's only started as an attacking midfielder in 9 games this season and was a CM for Argentina in the WC. He's another type of player than the ones mentioned and much better defensively. He wont have an issue playing as CM for us.
 
Wholeheartedly agree with this. I've expressed concerns about the likes of Caicedo before now. A better (and cheaper) strategy might be to initially agree to sign Caicedo/Mac Allister for silly money, wait to see who Brighton line up as a replacement, then pull out of the deal and sign them instead.

I'm kidding, of course, but we really need to find these players before they have their breakout Premier League season, not after. One good season in the Premier League seems to add £50m to your price tag these days. And it's not just the inflated fee that's the problem; it's that it's based on very limited evidence. Any player can have a purple patch - we could end up blowing half our transfer budget on a journeyman.
When we have a proper SD a strategy could be in place.
We could look to Brazil, Argentina and France, breading ground for very good players like Benfica and Brighton do.
 
I agree, We've done well by buying the under the radar or "almost there" players and coaching them to better form. think Mane, VVD, Salah, Gini, Robertson, etc.

50% of the fee for the Irish Argie is due to them winning the world cup.
 
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