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Adam Johnson A Nonce

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It looks like he's admitted to kissing a girl of 15, knowing she was 15, and grooming. The more serious other 2 he's denying by the looks of it. I'd guess his top of the range expensive lawyers will get him off with the other two, and he'll be charged for those 2 minor offences? Can't see him getting too much punishment for that, they let off a lad for raping a 5yr old the other week:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/18/teenager-avoids-jail-after-raping-girl-aged-five-5509917/

That's disgraceful. Judges have too much power when it comes to sentencing.
 
Within hours of the alleged sexual encounter, Johnson is said to have sent a message to the girl saying: “Wasn’t bad was it? Lol”. She replied: “No haha”. He continued: “Haha think we need to go in the back next time lol”. She said: “Haha yeah”.
 
Prosecutor Kate Blackwell said: “By February, there was significant conversation going on and it would seem the defendant was keen to check the age of consent and searched ‘legal age of consent’ on February 3.”

The prosecution allege that this was not because of his worry over what he had done but his intention to go even further with the teenager.
 
He is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucked.

As an aside, what the fucketty fuck is his Mrs doing still hanging around? Is it too harsh to say "seeing if he gets off, so she can go back to spending 60k per week"?
 
He is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucked.

As an aside, what the fucketty fuck is his Mrs doing still hanging around? Is it too harsh to say "seeing if he gets off, so she can go back to spending 60k per week"?

I wondered this too. But given how late the guilty pleas came , I'm guessing Johnson was trying to fight up to the last. I wouldn't be surprised if the first time she heard the extent of the evidence was today.

And she walked out of the public gallery during the hearing according to some reports.
 
The jury has heard Johnson’s girlfriend Stacey Flounders was sending him messages trying to save their relationship while he was engaged in sex acts with the teenage girl in a County Durham car park.

Stacey Flounders said: “I am going to try and be less negative but not if you are doing stupid stuff.

“I really want us to work because we are a family it’ll be a shame to spoil it now” [after their daughter was born in January 2015].
 
When arrested, Adam Johnson told police he couldn’t remember if he knew the girl’s age, the court hears.

As he was detained he told girlfriend Stacey Flounders: “Well, she said she was 16.”

“That was a lie,” the prosecutor tells the jury.
 
The teenage girl posted a picture of herself on Snapchat in a white bikini which Johnson could see, the court hears.

He messaged her “Yeah that’s what I meant, send another one with the bikini off,” the court hears.

Prosecutor Ms Blackwell says Johnson “knew her age, he knew she looked up to him, he knew he could take advantage of her and he did.”

Game over
 
He wont be buying himself out for £50 either.

Imagine if they stuck him in HMP Newcastle. Lads fucked.
 
I wonder if he may get some sort of community order/tag and be spared jail. What he's done is twisty and obviously wrong morally and legally, but I do wonder if it's a custodial sentence is fitting given it's a first offence. I also wonder if the judge will consider the punishment of being sacked and named and shamed in the media when considering sentencing options, but that's a possibility.

Naturally I expect parents and many people to disagree him being spared jail.
 
Game over

Jesus what kind of lawyer are you? You sound like that marine from Aliens when the transport crashes. Game over man, game over. I'd still win it from here, there's thousands of technicalities and case law to churn through. Expert witnesses to come in and portray the girl as a fantasist. Witnesses can disappear. It's game on.

To be fair that marine did end up dead.
 
Jesus what kind of lawyer are you? You sound like that marine from Aliens when the transport crashes. Game over man, game over. I'd still win it from here, there's thousands of technicalities and case law to churn through. Expert witnesses to come in and portray the girl as a fantasist. Witnesses can disappear. It's game on.

To be fair that marine did end up dead.

I'm the lawyer who has the paper of record in his country writing articles about his cases.

What would you do here Dantes ?
 
I wonder if he may get some sort of community order/tag and be spared jail. What he's done is twisty and obviously wrong morally and legally, but I do wonder if it's a custodial sentence is fitting given it's a first offence. I also wonder if the judge will consider the punishment of being sacked and named and shamed in the media when considering sentencing options, but that's a possibility.

Naturally I expect parents and many people to disagree him being spared jail.

It'd be inline with some of the other cases that have been in papers recently but his fame might count against him.
 
I'm the lawyer who has the paper of record in his country writing articles about his cases.

What would you do here Dantes ?

I'd look up the procedures that need to be followed by the police in obtaining WhatsApp evidence. The phone needs to go to some approved expert to extract and analyse the data, there would need to be a paper trail showing who had the phone and when, all that sort of stuff. There will have been a mistake somewhere by someone, I'll use it to make the evidence inadmissible. Move on to the next evidence. That's what I'd do.
 
He's admitted grooming then kissing a 15 year old girl.
He's getting everything he deserves the fucking vile idiot.
 
I'd also make a huge deal about it influencing the layperson jury, and see what case law there is to justify it being a mistrial. And on that point, how in the fuck did his idiotic lawyer allow the jury to be made up of 7 women and 4 guys. Once you see that, you delay it, come up with an excuse, break his legs if necessary, anything to get a new jury appointed with better odds.
 
I'd look up the procedures that need to be followed by the police in obtaining WhatsApp evidence. The phone needs to go to some approved expert to extract and analyse the data, there would need to be a paper trail showing who had the phone and when, all that sort of stuff. There will have been a mistake somewhere by someone, I'll use it to make the evidence inadmissible. Move on to the next evidence. That's what I'd do.

I would have thought if that was possible it would have been done already.
The jury has heard that evidence already.

There's also the fact that Johnson didn't deny meeting with the girl and told the police he thought she was 16 when he already knew she was just gone 15
 
"This is fucking bullshit man....who had my phone? What did they do with it when I wasnt present? I never wrote that vile shit! Who the fuck is trying to fit me up?!"

"Not only did we record how your phone was handled whilst in our possession and extracting the data we are presenting, we also have the receiving phone of the FIFTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD and confirm that the messages correspond"

"Oh, errrrr...."

"Just whilst you're contemplating that, we also pulled the gps data for your phone at the times the messages were sent to verify your whereabouts"

"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Im going to get bummed to death by geordies"
 
I would have thought if that was possible it would have been done already.
The jury has heard that evidence already.

There's also the fact that Johnson didn't deny meeting with the girl and told the police he thought she was 16 when he already knew she was just gone 15

A poor memory, poor numerical skills and stress can explain his police interview. The messages can be explained as references to him kissing her. The inconsistent part about doing her from behind is ridiculous. You could say he was saying that as an inside joke she wouldn't get, so to laugh to himself, but between them it meant he wanted to kiss her from behind. He has poor human anatomy skills.

Then a bunch of dirty tricks, make her take the stand and rip her to shreds. Its still possible
 
A poor memory, poor numerical skills and stress can explain his police interview. The messages can be explained as references to him kissing her. The inconsistent part about doing her from behind is ridiculous. You could say he was saying that as an inside joke she wouldn't get, so to laugh to himself, but between them it meant he wanted to kiss her from behind. He has poor human anatomy skills.

Then a bunch of dirty tricks, make her take the stand and rip her to shreds. Its still possible

I'll be surprised if she will be needed to give evidence. So cross examination is unlikely to arise.

And in all reality ripping her to shreds won't change a thing. It will however draw the ire of the judge who will ultimately be sentencing Johnson.
 
And the biggest problem for Johnson is that today was just outlining the case, the evidence comes next week ......
 
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