Adam banana

[Rosco]

You have to be wilfully stupid to think 25m on this lad was a good idea. And you have to be braindead to think his season justifies the signing.

I can't see it getting much better for him or us. But it can't get much worse either, so I suppose that's a positive.

He wasn't a luxury signing, just a bad one.

 

[Fabio]

Obvious problem is city and United can afford to spend big on fuck ups

We can't

 

[Red Bird]

Isn't it relative- Utd spend £50m+ on Di Maria, we spend £25m on Lallana.

City spend £40m on Mangala, we spend £20m on Lovren.

I don't think it's relative. We wasted £20 million on a player we did not need. The skanks wasted £50 million on a player they needed. And they have more resources than we can ever make, anyway, has finished above us.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I like Lallana. A very gifted player but we don't seem to know the best position fo him and he has as much stamina as me.

 

[Fabio]

I like Lallana. A very gifted player but we don't seem to know the best position fo him and he has as much stamina as me.

I honestly don't know what position he can make his own.

I would have liked to seen him given a go as striker instead of sterling tbh. He always seems to know when to make smart runs in to the box and when exactly to press

 

[Frogfish]

Goals per minutes played (PL only) :

Sturridge (4 in 753 mins) : 188.3 mins per goal
Gerrard (8 in 2,145 mins) : 268.1
Lallana (5 in 1,689 mins) : 337.8
Sterling (7 in 3,047 mins) : 435..3 mins
Henderson (6 in 3,166 mins) : 527.7
Coutinho (5 in 2,702 mins) : 540.4
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Lambert (2 in 841 mins) : 420.5
Markovic (2 in 932 mins) : 466.0
Moreno (2 in 2,209 mins) : 1,104.5

 

[darkstarexodus]

And Balotelli?

 

[Judge Jules]

That'll be on his tombstone.

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

Average number of minutes played per leagie match by Lallana is 45. He'd want to have some other amazing stats to counteract that and juatify the fee.

 

[Tinto]

Goals per minutes played (PL only) :

Sturridge (4 in 753 mins) : 188.3 mins per goal
Gerrard (8 in 2,145 mins) : 268.1
Lallana (5 in 1,689 mins) : 337.8
Sterling (7 in 3,047 mins) : 435..3 mins
Henderson (6 in 3,166 mins) : 527.7
Coutinho (5 in 2,702 mins) : 540.4
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Lambert (2 in 841 mins) : 420.5
Markovic (2 in 932 mins) : 466.0
Moreno (2 in 2,209 mins) : 1,104.5

Sorry, but that's just telling us we should keep Stevie. If you don't agree with that, then it's a useless selection of data.

 

[davud graham]

For me he's just a poor version of Yossi Benayoun.

 

[Dreambeliever]

I remember it as everybody wanted him apart from Modo who you all called a right fucking wanker of a bellend and then banned him for being anti English.

I suggested Tadic as a cheaper alternative.

I never wanted him for that price either

 

[StevieM]

Sorry, but that's just telling us we should keep Stevie. If you don't agree with that, then it's a useless selection of data.

Not really - take out the set piece goals and things change.

 

[Tinto]

Not really - take out the set piece goals and things change.

Would you want Lallana taking our pens?

 

[Rosco]

Would you want Lallana taking our pens?

No, his run up would take about half an hour

 

[StevieM]

Would you want Lallana taking our pens?

Dunno - didn't he score his penalties in our shootouts?

 

[Moe Dough]

Lol.

 

[Frogfish]

Average number of minutes played per leagie match by Lallana is 45. He'd want to have some other amazing stats to counteract that and juatify the fee.

That's pretty ridiculous because you have included the matches Rodgers only used him as a sub, probably when coming back from injury. Hansern has already posted in this very thread the ave. minutes per match started, 81 mins.

 

[Frogfish]

Sorry, but that's just telling us we should keep Stevie. If you don't agree with that, then it's a useless selection of data.

I'll give you a chance to get your brain into gear before answering that. Hint : 11 metres.

 

[Rosco]

That's pretty ridiculous because you have included the matches Rodgers only used him as a sub, probably when coming back from injury. Hansern has already posted in this very thread the ave. minutes per match started, 81 mins.

Yeah how dare he not cherry pick a stat to make this.disaster signing look like it has some.merit

 

[Frogfish]

Yeah how dare he not cherry pick a stat to make this.disaster signing look like it has some.merit

How surprising you should pop up with an irrelevant comment just to shit-stir as per. Being given penalty taking duties doesn't make any difference at all to a players scoring stats do they.

 

[Rosco]

How surprising you should pop up with an irrelevant comment just to shit-stir as per. Being given penalty taking duties doesn't make any difference at all to a players scoring stats do they.

They do. Obviously.

But saying Adam Lallana played 81 mins a game for Southampton is irrelevant.

He couldn't do it this season

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

That's pretty ridiculous because you have included the matches Rodgers only used him as a sub, probably when coming back from injury. Hansern has already posted in this very thread the ave. minutes per match started, 81 mins.

He's only been fit enough to play on average half a game. When you spend 20 odd million on a player, you need him to be fit and performing for a lot more than that.

Yes, he can't help being injured, but our transfer committee should be better at identifying players that will stay fit, and play more games.

 

[Hansern]

If you looked at his record for Soton. Fitness and staying fit wouldnt be an issue.
Paying 25 mill was waaaay to much. That should have put us off the deal.
But the fitness issue isnt relevant imho. Only once in his career has he played less than 40 games in a season.
He covered the 5th most ground in the entire league last season. How can you manage that if you're unfit or have issues with your fitness?

He's also played in 40 games this season, 26 in the league. Its not like he's been out like Studge.
His injury record this season is more down to bad luck imho, or maybe even some incompetence from our own staff.
You have to wonder with the amount of injuries we suffer.

 

[red_maradona]

Never the right profile for a top 4 club*

*oh, I forgot, we aren't a top 4 club....

 

[Tinto]

I'll give you a chance to get your brain into gear before answering that. Hint : 11 metres.

To counter your set of data that talks about goals and minutes on the pitch, you're going to introduce distance now?

Everybody pretty much agrees that Stevie's had a poor season to put it kindly. You're using a set of stats to prove Lallana has been decent and yet Stevie is above Lallana in your chart.

You can't take away Stevie's penalties from those stats of yours because someone has to take them. Scoring from penalties is a skill and Stevie is by far the best penalty taker out of the players in your chart.

It isn't like when we were looking at signing Barry under Rafa and Barry's goal good scoring stat was given as a good reason to sign him. Not including his penalties made sense in that case because everybody knows he wouldn't be taking them here at Liverpool with Stevie around.

 

[Ryan]

Am I the only one who feels that he often slows down our play in the attacking third because he's too fond of taking multiple touches?

BECAUSE THERE'S NO CUNT TO FUCKING PASS IT TO.

 

[StevieM]

I don't thing Froggie or anyone is trying to prove that Lallana had a good season - he didn't.

What a few of us are trying to say is that he's a decent player who despite being injured for significant parts of the season- showed that he can contribute.

 

[Ryan]

LALLANA MISSED OUT ON THE BULK OF PRE-SEASON TOO, SO I'D SUGGEST HE'S NOT BEEN WORKING OFF THE SAME FITNESS BASE AS OTHERS IN THE SQUAD.

WHEN HE HAS PLAYED, HE'S PLAYED WELL, SCORED AND CREATED. BEHIND COUTINHO, HE'S BEEN OUT BEST ATTACKING PLAYER THIS SEASON.

I THINK RODGERS THOUGHT WE WERE PROBABLY BETTER AND CLOSER THAN WE ARE, AND THAT LALLANA WOULD BE THE EXTRA BIT WE NEEDED TO CHANGE GAMES, WIN MATCHES, ETC. BUT WE'RE NBOT, WE'RE SHIT, AND WE HAVE LALLANA, COUTINHO AND STERLING WANDERING AROUND IN CIRCLES WITH NO ONE TO GIVE THE BALL TO.

LALLANA WAS OUR THE BEST PLAYER ON THE PITCH ON SATURDAY - BY A DISTANCE. HE CAN CLEARLY PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.

 

[Ryan]

Fucking caps lock.