Hung Parliament says Exit poll.
Just 59 seats for Lib Dem. cant see it myself.
Just 59 seats for Lib Dem. cant see it myself.
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Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
92?
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100580#msg1100580 date=1273179726]
Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
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Yeah. I think I might actually have cried that night. Poor Neil Kinnock.
Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
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Yeah. I think I might actually have cried that night. Poor Neil Kinnock.
I think the exit polls are based on a limited amount of constitutencies and at a rough estimate I'd say all those figures could end up +/- 10%ish.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100583#msg1100583 date=1273180121]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100580#msg1100580 date=1273179726]
Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
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Yeah. I think I might actually have cried that night. Poor Neil Kinnock.
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Yeah, my dad was exceptionally angry.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100580#msg1100580 date=1273179726]
Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
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Yeah. I think I might actually have cried that night. Poor Neil Kinnock.
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Yeah, my dad was exceptionally angry.
They were almost exactly right last time though, weren't they?
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100585#msg1100585 date=1273180502]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100583#msg1100583 date=1273180121]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100580#msg1100580 date=1273179726]
Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
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Yeah. I think I might actually have cried that night. Poor Neil Kinnock.
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Yeah, my dad was exceptionally angry.
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It was a shock on a similar scale to how people would feel if Brown were re-elected tonight. Major was generally considered a lame-duck candidate, and we'd been waiting 13 years to get rid of the Tories. It really was weird.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100583#msg1100583 date=1273180121]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100580#msg1100580 date=1273179726]
Wasnt teh exit poll wrong a while back, seem to remember when I was younger it said Hung & was Tory.
92?
[/quote]
Yeah. I think I might actually have cried that night. Poor Neil Kinnock.
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Yeah, my dad was exceptionally angry.
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It was a shock on a similar scale to how people would feel if Brown were re-elected tonight. Major was generally considered a lame-duck candidate, and we'd been waiting 13 years to get rid of the Tories. It really was weird.
You'll never get a true representation of what Britain wants till you get proportional representation, so there'll always be strange results.
It's a fucking stupid system that's currently in place.
It's a fucking stupid system that's currently in place.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40111.msg1100589#msg1100589 date=1273180934]
You'll never get a true representation of what Britain wants till you get proportional representation, so there'll always be strange results.
It's a fucking stupid system that's currently in place.
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Depends whether you believe that your local MP really does represent your local consituency. If you do believe that, then PR won't work. Maybe we should just move to a presidential system, like the French and Americans?
You'll never get a true representation of what Britain wants till you get proportional representation, so there'll always be strange results.
It's a fucking stupid system that's currently in place.
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Depends whether you believe that your local MP really does represent your local consituency. If you do believe that, then PR won't work. Maybe we should just move to a presidential system, like the French and Americans?
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
I'm fairly sure UKIP & Green are evenly split normally in polls.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100598#msg1100598 date=1273181603]
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
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Well I think NI provides 18 seats, so a mixture of Shinners, DUP, SDLP and Independents. Then the Welsh mob and Scots Nationalists. The Tories may well make a deal with the NI Unionists.
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
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Well I think NI provides 18 seats, so a mixture of Shinners, DUP, SDLP and Independents. Then the Welsh mob and Scots Nationalists. The Tories may well make a deal with the NI Unionists.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40111.msg1100601#msg1100601 date=1273182055]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100598#msg1100598 date=1273181603]
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
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Well I think NI provides 18 seats, so a mixture of Shinners, DUP, SDLP and Independents. Then the Welsh mob and Scots Nationalists. The Tories may well make a deal with the NI Unionists.
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How many Unionists and UKIP are there likely to be? The Tories, on that exit poll, would need an extra 8 seats, wouldn't they?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100598#msg1100598 date=1273181603]
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
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Well I think NI provides 18 seats, so a mixture of Shinners, DUP, SDLP and Independents. Then the Welsh mob and Scots Nationalists. The Tories may well make a deal with the NI Unionists.
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How many Unionists and UKIP are there likely to be? The Tories, on that exit poll, would need an extra 8 seats, wouldn't they?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100602#msg1100602 date=1273182135]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40111.msg1100601#msg1100601 date=1273182055]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100598#msg1100598 date=1273181603]
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
[/quote]
Well I think NI provides 18 seats, so a mixture of Shinners, DUP, SDLP and Independents. Then the Welsh mob and Scots Nationalists. The Tories may well make a deal with the NI Unionists.
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How many Unionists and UKIP are there likely to be? The Tories, on that exit poll, would need an extra 8 seats, wouldn't they?
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The DUP and Ulster Unionists (who are now officially allied to the Tories) would give them that. When I say Independents, in NI it is proper independent candidates rather than UKIP.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40111.msg1100601#msg1100601 date=1273182055]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100598#msg1100598 date=1273181603]
If that exit poll is correct, then not only the Lib Dems but even the minority parties are going to have a say in who's PM. Anyone know how the 29 'others' would divide up?
[/quote]
Well I think NI provides 18 seats, so a mixture of Shinners, DUP, SDLP and Independents. Then the Welsh mob and Scots Nationalists. The Tories may well make a deal with the NI Unionists.
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How many Unionists and UKIP are there likely to be? The Tories, on that exit poll, would need an extra 8 seats, wouldn't they?
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The DUP and Ulster Unionists (who are now officially allied to the Tories) would give them that. When I say Independents, in NI it is proper independent candidates rather than UKIP.
Sky now suggesting a Lib-Lab-others coalition to get a referendum on voting reform.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40111.msg1100608#msg1100608 date=1273182433]
Sky now suggesting a Lib-Lab-others coalition to get a referendum on voting reform.
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I don't think a Lib/Lab coalition will necessarily be enough. I have a feeling a Conservative/Unionist alliance is more likely. Unfortunately.
Sky now suggesting a Lib-Lab-others coalition to get a referendum on voting reform.
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I don't think a Lib/Lab coalition will necessarily be enough. I have a feeling a Conservative/Unionist alliance is more likely. Unfortunately.
[quote author=Asim link=topic=40111.msg1100609#msg1100609 date=1273182798]
First blood to Labour in Houghton Sunderland.
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If the Tories had taken a seat there it would have been a fucking huge shock I'm guessing.
First blood to Labour in Houghton Sunderland.
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If the Tories had taken a seat there it would have been a fucking huge shock I'm guessing.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40111.msg1100611#msg1100611 date=1273182922]
[quote author=Asim link=topic=40111.msg1100609#msg1100609 date=1273182798]
First blood to Labour in Houghton Sunderland.
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If the Tories had taken a seat there it would have been a fucking huge shock I'm guessing.
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Yup apparently so, it did swing closer to Tories though. BNP down 2% also
[quote author=Asim link=topic=40111.msg1100609#msg1100609 date=1273182798]
First blood to Labour in Houghton Sunderland.
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If the Tories had taken a seat there it would have been a fucking huge shock I'm guessing.
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Yup apparently so, it did swing closer to Tories though. BNP down 2% also
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40111.msg1100620#msg1100620 date=1273183959]
The exit poll is much lower for Lib dem than the scm swingometer led us to believe.
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The exit poll is based on seats though. The Libdems may well have 30% of the vote.
The exit poll is much lower for Lib dem than the scm swingometer led us to believe.
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The exit poll is based on seats though. The Libdems may well have 30% of the vote.
Revised exit poll: Tories 305, LDs 61.
Does that make a difference to your Tory-Unionist alliance, Doc?
Does that make a difference to your Tory-Unionist alliance, Doc?
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