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Transfer Rumours 21/22

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by King Binny, Feb 9, 2021.

  1. FreshRed

    FreshRed Well-Known Member

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    Echo that thanks from Binny. Sometimes the analysis is a little exhausting, but such a nice contrast the pseudo-analysis crap in most sources.
     
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    He is pissed at the clubs lack of spending, he has said it as much on more than a few occasions.
     
  3. King Binny

    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Yeah, I think it's more convenient that way. I do see (from tweets) that there are many interesting reads (although a lot of them do seem really long!) about other clubs/football issues.

    I am, but it might take a bit of getting used to when I get back to work as I haven't taken a break as long over these 1-2 years.

    And many sites are quoting other site's news o_O rather than generating their own

    LOL! If I may correct the wording, it's the apparent "lack of forward planning" rather than the money spent. I prefer for us to be more proactive. I'm just a couch potato fan though, Edwards and co. should know better (hopefully).
     
  4. King Binny

    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Portuguese press (not the most reliable I think) claimed that Klopp was impressed with Diaz


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  5. King Binny

    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Article: It was all new for Luis Diaz.

    Despite having been raised next to the border with Venezuela in north-eastern Colombia, the young winger had never set foot abroad when he was called up to represent his country at the Copa America of Indigenous People in mid-2015.

    As a member of the Wayuu, the largest indigenous community in Colombia, he could not have been more excited after impressing local legend Carlos Valderrama.

    "The competition would be held in Chile so we took a five-hour flight there and you could see his eyes light up with that experience," former Colombia international John 'Pocillo' Diaz, who coached that side, told BBC Sport.

    "Lucho would ask us if he could have the same meal more than once. He was this humble."


    Although this has not changed, one thing certainly did - Diaz has made many other trips since then.

    The latest of them to Liverpool, where he arrives as Porto's main hope of causing an upset at Anfield on Wednesday and taking a step towards the knockout stages of the Champions League.

    Diaz was unstoppable during this summer's Copa America, finding the net against the likes of Brazil and Argentina and finishing the tournament as joint top scorer alongside Lionel Messi. He has followed that with 11 goals in 17 appearances for Porto this season.

    The 24-year-old is quickly becoming the next big thing in Portuguese football, with a Premier League move looking increasingly likely having been linked with Everton, Newcastle and Liverpool too.

    It has been a long journey for the boy who is now emulating his compatriots Radamel Falcao, James Rodriguez, Fredy Guarin and Jackson Martinez, all four of them former Porto stars.

    One of Diaz's hobbies as a child was to watch large trains go by his small village of Barrancas three times a day, carrying coal from the Cerrejon, one of the world's biggest open pit coal mines. Most of the product is loaded onto ships and sent to Europe.

    As trains moved through, Diaz often caught himself wondering if he would ever have a chance to see more of the world too.

    Very few kids born in the La Guajira region actually have. To this day, it remains one of the most neglected areas by the Colombian government, where 4.770 Wayuu children died from malnutrition between 2008 and 2016.


    The humanitarian crisis still persists and has drawn attention from organisations such as the United Nations and Human Rights Watch.

    When 'Pocillo' Diaz first met the Porto winger in 2015, the coach was astonished by how underweight he looked.

    "For a moment, we thought it would be very difficult for him to perform because Lucho seemed to have malnutrition problems - he was very skinny and lost the duels with other players," he recalled.

    "But despite that, he managed to stand out among 400 candidates and make the 26-man squad. He initially played as a striker, but had one big issue in his game. He used to run the ball with his head down, so sometimes he didn't even notice that he had reached the end of the pitch. He was very fast and had a very good technique, the ball would stick to his foot like glue."


    Ultimately, Colombia lost the Copa America of Indigenous People's final 1-0 to Paraguay, but Diaz ended the competition with two goals to his name and a bright future ahead.

    A record-breaking deal in the summer?
    As he returned from Chile, he did not head back to Barrancas this time. Instead, he signed for second-tier club Barranquilla FC, an affiliate of Junior FC. He had made such an impression that he even led the team to create a new age group in order to accommodate him.

    "When we brought him in, Lucho had turned 18, but the youth tournaments here in Colombia are divided between the under-20 and under-17 age groups, said Fernel Diaz, Barranquilla youth football coordinator.

    "He was not ready to play with the former and was too old for the latter, so we had to come up with a solution. We then decided to launch an under-18 team to give him and other boys some playing time,

    "He didn't stay around long, however. By the end of that year, he was already featuring for our under-20 side."


    At this point, there was no doubt left about his talent. Diaz still needed, though, to strengthen his body, which prompted Barranquilla to start a plan that saw him gain 10kg through a diet plan that included eating pasta during breakfast.

    In 2017, he was on the move to Junior and did not look back, going on to win the Colombian league and reach the Copa Sudamericana final the following year.

    He would score his first national team goal in a 2-1 defeat by South Korea in 2019, becoming the first footballer from La Guajira to do so since the 1990s. Former Colombia boss Carlos Queiroz, who also led Portugal and Real Madrid, compared him to the legendary Luis Figo.

    He had offers from Zenit St Petersburg and Cardiff City among many others but Diaz ended up choosing Porto in a 7m euro deal that same season. He is now expected to leave the Portuguese giants next summer in a record-breaking transfer, with his buyout clause set at 80m euros.

    "Lucho can shoot from distance, he's comfortable with his two feet, he can dribble, he can open up defences, he can score. What can't he do?" 'Pocillo' concluded. "But, believe it or not, he's yet to reach his ceiling."
     
  6. bluebell

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    @KingBinny do you rate him? How does he fit into Klopp's system?
     
  7. kingjulian

    kingjulian Very Active Member

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    I was watching highlight clip of Darwin Nunez sent by some one else...seemed impressive, but I have seen impressive highlight clips (remember Markovic) before of not so good players too. So have no idea how he plays. Would be interesting to know what others make out of Diaz and Nunez.
     
  8. King Binny

    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    I only saw him when he played us. He's still contracted for another 3 years I think, so will surely cost a bomb.


    Elsewhere,

     
  9. Donavan Ried

    Donavan Ried Alive and still kicking, Just Member

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    Aguibou Camara No thank you, Another African player we will lose to the AFCON
     
  10. bluebell

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    Totally unconvincing if I'm honest. Why name the video/call him 'brilliant' when 50% of the goal attempts are missed/saved !? The fact he has zero assists ably demonstrates what I see there ... he is mainly an old fashioned CF with the majority of his goals coming from in or just around the 6m box and not a whole lot of technical brilliance being shown.

    Nowadays I like to see stats showing total goal involvement (anything like that @King Binny ?) or at least including assists (can't be arsed working them all out), of which he has zero.
     
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    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/french-ligue-one/top-scorers

    Mbappe leads the total goal involvement with 7 goals +7 assists. Gouiri is next with 8+4. David (10+0), Laborde (8+2), Ajorque (5+5) and Faivre (5+5) all tied at 3rd with 10.
     
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  14. King Binny

    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    The main thing that stands out for Jonathan David is the pressure he applies

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    Jonathan David is emerging as an elite striker at Lille. Where will he go next?
    David is the top scorer in Ligue 1 this season. His next career move – whether Inter, Liverpool or elsewhere – will be crucial
    By Adam White for Get French Football News
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    Jonathan David has scored 10 goals in Ligue 1 this season. Photograph: Daniel Cole/AP

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    Space has always been at a premium for Jonathan David. “We only have a handful of domes here in Ottawa,” David’s former youth coach Jay Da Costa told First Time Finish last year. “Those domes get used up, not just by soccer, but baseball and football and other organisations too. It’s hard to get time and, usually, when you get it, you’re only training on one-third of the field, sometimes one-sixth.” Ottawa’s cramped domes – large, inflatable tent-like structures that shield pitches from the harsh Canadian winters – were an early step on an unusual career path for the young forward, who is now ready for his next big jump. However, such fast progress was not always so certain.
    Ten appearances into his career in France, having joined Lille from Gent in August 2020, David was without a goal or an assist. Lille won nine of those games but David moved from a guaranteed starter to an intermittent presence due to his lack of form. It took him until last November’s 4-0 win over Lorient to finally score a goal. Although his movement, speed and interplay hinted at his quality, he scored just two goals in his first 25 games for the club.

    In 2021, however, David has transformed. His record of 21 goals in 34 league games this year includes a winner at PSG and a late double against Marseille, plus the opener in Lille’s win at Angers on the final day of last season. All were crucial in helping the club pull off a shock title triumph. His brace in the first nine minutes of Lille’s 2-2 draw at Monaco this weekend took his tally to 10 in the league this season, making the 21-year-old the leading scorer in France.
    Difficulties settling in are nothing new for David, who had a nomadic childhood. He was born in New York, moved to Port-au-Prince in Haiti when he was three months old before settling in Ottawa as a six-year-old. “Anywhere you go, the beginning is always difficult,” said David of his move to Canada. After developing as a young player at Ottawa Gloucester Hornets, the forward signed for the Belgian club Gent in January 2018.

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    He was only 17 at the time so spent six months training with the youth side, a period David says was crucial to his adaptation, before scoring five goals in his first five games for the first team. He grew up fast in Belgium. “I was living on my own,” said David. “I know my family is only one phone call away but I have to find solutions to problems for myself.” Solutions were found, both in Belgium and Lille. His 83 games for Gent brought 37 goals, 15 assists and interest from abroad.
    He chose Lille. Much was made of Burak Yilmaz’s match-winning performances, veteran José Fonte’s commanding defensive displays and goalkeeper Mike Maignan’s unerring consistency, but Lille would not have won the title last season without David. His burgeoning confidence gave the team dynamism and energy during an intense run-in. With Yilmaz injured for 13 games at the start of the year, Jonathan Bamba’s riotous early season form evaporating and Jonathan Ikoné typically erratic, David helped the team maintain their momentum.
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    With Liverpool apparently interested and Inter reportedly lining up a bid for January – Lille will want a fee surpassing the £25m they paid for his services – this is increasingly likely to be David’s final season at Lille. However, despite his obvious ability, the uncertainty about his best position could give clubs pause. He is strong and capable of bringing others into play, often dropping off to play as a second striker, but David is not yet wholly suited to the lone forward role used by many bigger clubs. He also lacks the one-on-one skills of top-level wingers and has been less effective when used wide. Elements of his game could be compared to Wissam Ben Yedder, or perhaps Luis Suárez. David’s time playing in Ottawa’s tight domes draws parallels with Ben Yedder’s futsal experience – both players have sharp control and protect the ball well.
    At Lille, thanks to Christophe Galtier’s strict 4-4-2 – which has been replicated by new manager Jocelyn Gourvennec – David has been used almost exclusively in a front two. The role suits his unusual skillset perfectly, giving him the freedom to drop off into space in support of his partner or play on the shoulder of a defender. However, his tight control and sharp interplay means David is at his best when playing close to teammates. Inter’s 3-5-2 could be an ideal fit, but he may struggle to find a niche elsewhere. As David said himself before joining Lille: “I don’t want to go somewhere and just stay on the bench. It’s about taking the right step.”
    However, judging by his steep trajectory, David’s ceiling is high. Without Galtier, Lille have not performed as well as they did last season but David has been one of few players to keep progressing, along with Sven Botman and Tiago Djaló. When he arrived at the club he was nervous and unable to impact games, but he is now full of swagger. David uses possession intelligently and his finishing has become much more considered. Another year or two in the right environment could make all the difference for David as he looks to take that next step and become an elite striker.
    Whether playing on the bustling streets of Port-au-Prince, in the freezing domes of Ottawa, or in congested Ligue 1 penalty areas, space has always been at a premium for David. Soon or later, though, as his talent truly blossoms, it will be the space left by David in Gourvennec’s team that will become the problem for Lille.
     
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    Emmanuel Dennis
    5 goals 5 assists
    plays for Watford
    Con - will not be available during AFCON as he is Nigerian
     
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    "as long as it is not to the detriment of Harvey Elliott and Curtis Jones"

    And so it begins.
     
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    How is it a detriment to Harvey and Jones? Especially Jones. I'd sell him tomorrow if it meant getting Bellingham who is miles ahead of him.

    Also, I just love following this thread with players we will never buy.
     
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    I was thinking about this the other day.

    Do we follow our recent path of selling fringe young players a a premium to fund transfers - Curtis Jones is a prime example - do we try to get a £30m type fee on him - we aren’t getting it on Ox or Kieta or even someone like Phillips.

    Might get a decent few for Gomez if he ever gets fit for a sustained period, but probably not enough to fund a decent replacement.

    If Nico gets a run of games and does well - might get a good fee for him too.

    The risk being we get rid of good young players while we have an ageing squad - and homegrown ones at that.

    The only way we’re affording Bellingham is if we sell Salah.
     

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