• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Ian Graham - The key man behind Liverpool's flawless transfer strategy

Status
Not open for further replies.

King Binny

Part of the Furniture
Honorary Member
https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/transfer-news/liverpool-klopp-fsg-ian-graham-17252395
[article]Not every Liverpool fan will have heard of Ian Graham. About a year ago, it would have been even fewer.

Graham is the club's Director of Research, and joined in July 2012. The Cambridge graduate has, however, very much operated in the shadows of Anfield. A boyhood fan of the club, the Welshman has been partly responsible for the recruitment of the team which now sits eight points clear of the Premier League and are reigning champions of Europe.

Yet while some of the obvious (Jurgen Klopp, FSG, the players) and not-so-obvious (Michael Edwards) figures have been lauded, Graham was a relative unknown for his work behind the scenes.

If you don't believe us, take a look at how often 'Ian Graham Liverpool' was searched on Google worldwide over the past 12 months.

0_graham.jpg


That changed - with the online football community, at least - when Bruce Shcoenfeld of the New York Times wrote a superb piece highlighting the importance of Graham. Published the week before the Champions League final, Graham suddenly became another name for Liverpool supporters to look out for.

He is an interesting and engaging character, and recently went to London to speak to the popular Freakonomics Radio show. Released as a podcast in October, Graham sat down with Stephen J. Dubner to discuss his role at Liverpool.

This is what he said.

And you can also listen to the podcast here.

******

It's important to say signing a player is a multidisciplinary exercise, you have the traditional methods of scouting, some newer methods of video scouting, coaches and the manager have to be on board and enthusiastic about the player. My role is the data analysis side of analysing football, which is a newer side, and the sort of players I really like are players who shine through in the data, but don't naturally shine through for your typical football fan or typical scout. Awkward, ungainly players, or players who have been overlooked, for various other purposes. One of my favourite players is Andy Robertson, our left back, one of the best left backs in Europe and now European champion, of course.

Robertson's problem was his background, as much as anything. He only started playing English Premier League football maybe at the age of 22, and he played for Hull City, which was not a very good football team. They were relegated from the Premier League, and he was the best young full back in Britain at the time. He was a really strange case of a really attacking full back, playing in a really poor defensive team.

So we get data on every ball touched by every player in every game, where it was on the pitch, and what happened next. We can see where all the players are at 25 frames per second, it's done with optical tracking. The same technology that's used for missile tracking originally - it's much easier to track a person than a missile, they travel a little slower.

We try to put everything into one currency, so football is measured in goals, it's what gets you a win. We try to take whatever action a player does on a pitch - a pass, a shot, a tackle if you're a defender - and ask the question: what was this team's chance of scoring a goal before this action happened, and what was the team's chance of scoring a goal after that action happened? We call that Goal Probability Added (GPA), which is a really catchy name, and so the thing I'm really obsessed about is the risk/reward pay-off of passes.

Some of the best passers in the game have some of the lowest pass completion percentages, and that's because the risk/reward pay-off is very, very skewed in soccer, or football. It's very easy to massage statistics, and get a high pass completion percentage, by playing very conservative passes which do nothing for your team's chances of scoring a goal. The passes I really love are the passes which go behind the opposition defence, that take four or five defenders out of the game; those passes are really hard to make, but someone who gets those passes correct half the time would be a world class attacking midfielder.


(This is very, very interesting, and shows the importance of a player like Trent Alexander-Arnold or Mohamed Salah. The duo have the lowest pass accuracy in the Liverpool squad this season (minimum 300 minutes, outfield players only) yet are absolutely essential to how the Reds progress the ball. It is, once more, showing the intelligence and depth of how football clubs analyse players. It also hints at how Liverpool consider Alexander-Arnold a 'world class attacking midfielder', despite his role at right-back.

It should also be noted that the likes of Wijnaldum should not be dismissed simply because they keep the ball safely, and that his risk/reward is clearly strong enough for inclusion, despite criticisms he can be too safe with possession.

It also brings this tweet into mind, which shows how Liverpool players progress the goal.

)

When we look through the lens of the data, it's not a perfect lens, it's a kind of smeared out view because you don't see all of the details about exactly how much pressure this player was under or exactly where the defenders were. But the players who play a full season of football attempt that sort of pass often enough that the law of large numbers comes into play, and you can get a good statistical reading of the player.

It can help a lot with both (on-field play and transfer activity), but the place it can really help is the acquisition of players in terms of our scouting process. In terms of Premier League football, and European football in general, it's a worldwide free market of football players. If we spot a player we like to play for Liverpool and we can pay the price the selling club demands, we can buy him. The real power of data analysis is when the data set is large. We have detailed data on hundreds of thousands of players, maybe only 5% of those would be near a Premier League level player, but that's still 5,000 players which is too big to scout in-depth and in detail, so we can really help that filtering and identification process.

Our owners and me and all my colleagues were huge fans of Jurgen and his Dortmund team in the early 2010s. They played the most exciting brand of football in Europe, and not coming from a place of financial dominance. They won the German Bundesliga twice at a huge financial deficit to Bayern Munich, and so he was always one of our dream hires as manager. But his last season in Dortmund was disastrous, they were in the relegation zone, and the German media said it was all over for Dortmund, Klopp's lost it. There's no way back for them. Our analysis showed something quite different: they were still clearly the second-best team in Germany but the performances did not match the results. I analysed ten seasons of Bundesliga performances and Dortmund were the second-unluckiest team in that ten-year history, it was just some terrible luck which cost Jurgen that season.

My concern (with Klopp) was the act you see on the cameras every week was just that - an act - and that the real person would be someone different. But it really isn't. Data analysis is something because it's new, and football is a very conservative sport. It is something that is difficult to get across and it would be very understandable for a manager who has a hundred other things to worry about to just say 'you know what, I'm not that interested in this', but Jurgen took the time, and was kind enough, to let me explain our approach. He understood it and appreciated it, which already puts him in the top 5% of managers in my opinion.[/article]
 
Superb read, thanks as always @King Binny. The data-driven approach coupled together with Klopp’s ability to improve players and unlock hidden potential is really the only way we could ever hope to climb to the very top of the modern game without being filthy rich - and that’s exactly what we did. The purchase of Robbo alone, if you count the savings in comparison to the outlandish fees clubs like Man City paid for full-backs that didn’t have nearly as much impact, would pay for the upkeep of our entire data analysis department many times over.
 
A great read. Thanks Binny. I'm guessing a lot of this data model was encouraged by FSG and their experiences with the moneyball concept which proved so successful for the major league. Things like our throw in coach Thomas Gronnemark which was initially scoffed at by some (Most notably certain shamed pundits) falls into this category.

I found this which is interesting from an article I found on This is Anfield. I myself always thought it was a very smart move of the reds to appoint Gronnemark. It seems a no brainer to me.

Expert analysis shows the huge impact of Liverpool’s throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemar

The impact of throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemark at Liverpool is described as “nothing short of astonishing,” with key statistics highlighting his improvement.
2019-07-24-163-Liverpool_USA_Tour_Day_9-600x400.jpg

Gronnemark provided a response to the out-of-touch criticism of his role with the Reds in an interview with The Athletic’s James Pearce last week, acknowledging that it is “a funny job.”

But his influence on Merseyside cannot be ignored, as analysis from Tifo Football‘s Ben Jacobs has highlighted, in an engaging video essay on throw-ins.
Arguing whether throw-ins should be abolished in favour of kick-ins, Jacobs explains how the approach to these set-pieces is slowly changing, notably inspired by Gronnemark.
He writes that, as opposed to the long throws popularised by Rory Delap at Stoke, “a successful throw-in is really just one where possession is retained, and the real skill is to win the ball under pressure.”
“The Premier League average for ‘retained possession under pressure’, surprisingly, is just 48.6 percent, making it the worst league in this category across Europe’s big five leagues—who hardly boast glowing stats either,” he adds.

The rest of Europe’s elite is comprised of La Liga (52.4%), Ligue 1 (50.2%), Serie A (49.2%) and the Bundesliga (48.8%).
Interestingly, Jacobs notes how Liverpool are now “statistically speaking, Europe’s second-best team at throw-ins.”
“Liverpool retained possession from throws under pressure 68.4 percent of the time last season, with only two-time Danish champions FC Midtjylland (70.2%) ahead of them,” he explained.
“It’s no coincidence, of course, that both clubs have the same dedicated throw-in coach, Thomas Gronnemark.”
2019-07-21-279-Liverpool_USA_Tour_Day_6-1200x800.jpg

Gronnemark’s impact is “nothing short of astonishing in such a short space of time,” Jacobs attests, with the difference in Liverpool’s success from throw-ins from 2017/18 to 2018/19 evidence of this.
The season before Gronnemark’s arrival in 2018, Liverpool retained possession from throw-ins under pressure just 45.4 percent of the time, with only Swansea (43.8%) and Huddersfield (42.1%) worse in the English top flight.

“They also allowed opposing sides to win the ball at an above-average rate of 51.8 percent,” he added.
This has improved by 23 percent under Gronnemark’s tutelage, with the Reds going from the Premier League‘s third-worst to the best.
Jacobs argued that added time in possession should not be the focus, but instead Gronnemark’s view of “fast and clever throws.”
P180922-054-Liverpool_Southampton-1200x799.jpg

“Clever throws can involve players switching sides to deliver, or unexpected movement and trajectories,” he continued.
“The most creative, and often flatter, the better.
“Fast throws, meanwhile, are important because they don’t allow defending teams to take shape.
“The optimal time to take one is about five seconds after the ball goes out of play.

“When thrown less than 15 metres, the overall chances of retaining possession are are 66.9 percent; this drops to 49.6 percent once 10 seconds have elapsed.”
P180825-094-Liverpool_Brighton-e1535295472643-1200x801.jpg

While Jacobs’ conclusion is more football-wide, that he resolves that a drastic change of the ruling is not required, but more so a change of approach from clubs, is testament to Gronnemark’s work at Liverpool.
Watching the Reds at throw-ins, and notably the speed with which they take them and the movement of players to receive the ball—particularly, in this case, Roberto Firmino—clearly shows how their outlook has changed.
It may have been ridiculed on Gronnemark’s arrival just over a year ago, but it has given Jurgen Klopp‘s side a new outlet unique to the Premier League.
The club have now given the Dane a new one-year contract, which proves the faith Klopp has that his methods are working.
 
Everyone refers to Moneyball, which is finding value in areas of the market not commonly exploited. The Oakland A's are the most notable example but didnt actually win anything bc the financial gaps were just too large. Competitive beyond their resources but not actually a winner.

FSG delivered great success in Boston because they paired a Moneyball style approach with top tier financial resources. This is what we've seen. We are exploring value in everything from recruitment (eg Robbo) to throw ins and fitness but pairing it with the cash to buy at the top end of the table and the data to ensure those big purchases are the right ones.

Notably we appear to be pairing the data driven analysis with traditional (eg the eye test) means of evaluation too. Klopp appears to be a willing participant which is key. There aren't the tensions between the front office and the matchday staff like we saw during Rodgers' time.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom