Zlatan: Guardiola Spineless Coward
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baffles me how zlatan's football abilities keep being questioned on this site. the guy is incredible and probably one of the best football cv's in the world.
Maybe it's because he has a long record of going missing in big games.
Exactly. He's got absolutely everything a top class striker needs, scores plenty against average sides or worse and has therefore collected a pile of club trophies, but too often he's failed to produce it against the best.
massive sense of de javu. when you win titles for the biggest clubs in the world, in the biggest leagues on a constant basis, you perform. if you didn't perform in the so called big games, you would sooner or later be found out and shipped off.
for all those who want to bring up the champs league, I have one answer: djimi traore!
A lifetime of playing for the biggest, winning and scoring says it all.
for all those who want to bring up the champs league, I have one answer: djimi traore!
A lifetime of playing for the biggest, winning and scoring says it all.
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Not quite. That "lifetime" has also seen him sent packing from a number of those clubs despite his obvious ability.
From one big club to another big club, for massive fees. Money talks and usually follows success.
Not that often, when a player has as much going for him as Ibrahimovic. There was a reason why he had to change clubs so frequently, and it certainly wasn't lack of ability.
Didn't say that he wasn't good. He is, clearly, an incredibly talented player. But 'very good' and 'overrated' are not the same thing. Oh, and Clayton Blackmore's won more titles than Steven Gerrard. Titles don't necessarily determine a player's worth.
yeah, but was clayton transferred from Manure, to Juve, to Barca, to milan, etc for record fees and produced (and won) at the highest level consistently for a decade or so?
Was Gerrard?
No. but we're not comparing Blackmore and Ibra. I was merely pointing out how the whole "he's won trophies" line isn't enough to prove (nor disprove) a player's greatness.
You're playing a blinder today Whaddapie.
I used to rail on him for this non-stop ... but he's actually been key in so many big games from his time at Barca to Milan etc that I don't think that label is fair nowadays.
He is one of the best players of his generation - a level below Messi & Ronaldo.
Much appreciated, Gene. As always.
sure, i'm not suggesting that either. my point is that by most reference points of a great player, zlatan ticks the box: talent, result, trophies, big fees, big clubs, individual performances etc etc.
But its been proven on so many occassions that he loses his bottle in big games and goes missing. That to me is not a great player. he's a good player, but not great. Has he scored past the group stages of the champions league yet? I remember while at barca he still hadn't done it yet.
How's that? We're discussing Ibra, not Messi.
Lavezzi (who actually knows something about this issue) about Zlatan:
The Argentina international has made it clear that the powerful striker's reputation goes before him as he is not a controversial person in real life
BET=BOR£37.5DRAW£33PSG£20Ezequiel Lavezzi has stressed that Paris Saint-Germain team-mate Zlatan Ibrahimovic is not the bad guy that people think he is as the Argentine believes the former AC Milan star is just trying to maintain a certain image.
Ibrahimovic has earned himself somewhat of a reputation as a bad boy for his often flamboyant behaviour on and off the pitch, but Lavezzi has insisted that the Sweden star is an enjoyable person in real life.
"Zlatan is not the ogre that people think he is. He is nothing like the image he's selling to the outside world. He has a certain image that he's living up to, but he's not like that in real life," Lavezzi told Goal.
"Everybody makes his own decisions on how to act and how you feel about certain things. Fortunately, I have a very good relationship with him and I can talk with him about all kinds of things.
"His real personality is different than his image in the football world. He is not like that, that's just a character he's playing."
Ibrahimovic and Lavezzi both joined PSG in 2012 after previously plying their trade in Serie A.
The Argentina international has made it clear that the powerful striker's reputation goes before him as he is not a controversial person in real life
BET=BOR£37.5DRAW£33PSG£20Ezequiel Lavezzi has stressed that Paris Saint-Germain team-mate Zlatan Ibrahimovic is not the bad guy that people think he is as the Argentine believes the former AC Milan star is just trying to maintain a certain image.
Ibrahimovic has earned himself somewhat of a reputation as a bad boy for his often flamboyant behaviour on and off the pitch, but Lavezzi has insisted that the Sweden star is an enjoyable person in real life.
"Zlatan is not the ogre that people think he is. He is nothing like the image he's selling to the outside world. He has a certain image that he's living up to, but he's not like that in real life," Lavezzi told Goal.
"Everybody makes his own decisions on how to act and how you feel about certain things. Fortunately, I have a very good relationship with him and I can talk with him about all kinds of things.
"His real personality is different than his image in the football world. He is not like that, that's just a character he's playing."
Ibrahimovic and Lavezzi both joined PSG in 2012 after previously plying their trade in Serie A.
You're guessing. It would be interesting to go back over the records and find out if that's actually true.
Wouldn't disagree with that. He could have made a lot of difference during those seasons when we were beating the top sides but coming a cropper against sides further down the table. You'd know from the start that it would end in a bust-up though.
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