Youth and Reserves thread - 2013/14
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Derby have now signed Adam Smith (a right back) on loan from Tottenham. Think the interest might be off.
Pedro Chirivella, Sergio Canos and ?
A glorious Irish summer?
Dunno tbh. Would guess it's another player from their age group (born 1996 or later) but I don't recognise him. Keeper or centre half going by size. This is their squad:
1
Andrew Firth
2
Tom Brewitt
3
Samuel Hart
4
Daniel Cleary
5
Kris Polgar
6
William Marsh
7
Ryan Kent
8
Oluwaswyi Ojo
9
Darius Waldrow
10
Alex O’Hanlon
11
Harry Wilson
12
David Roberts
13
Benjamin Jackson
14
Louis Robles
15
Pedro Chirivella Burgos
16
Corey Whela
17
Sergi Canos
18
Kris Owens / Adam Philips
Dunno tbh. Would guess it's another player from their age group (born 1996 or later) but I don't recognise him. Keeper or centre half going by size. This is their squad:
1
Andrew Firth
2
Tom Brewitt
3
Samuel Hart
4
Daniel Cleary
5
Kris Polgar
6
William Marsh
7
Ryan Kent
8
Oluwaswyi Ojo
9
Darius Waldrow
10
Alex O’Hanlon
11
Harry Wilson
12
David Roberts
13
Benjamin Jackson
14
Louis Robles
15
Pedro Chirivella Burgos
16
Corey Whela
17
Sergi Canos
18
Kris Owens / Adam Philips
Yeah, Andrew Firth, GK.
Pedro Chirivella, Sergio Canos and ?
Alan Carr?
Went to the under 16 match today. I positioned myself behind the opposition goal, expecting Liverpool to crush County Armagh, but alas I was wrong.
Liverpool started very poorly, very sloppy passing and weak tackling. Armagh scored a wonder goal from a counter attack (lofted shot from the edge of the 18 yard box), although it was hard to see from the other end of the pitch and I'd like to see a reply to make certain it didn't take a deflection.
After the goal, Liverpool began to dominate possession, but their final ball was awful. No 6 (William Marsh?) was particularly guilty of wasting a lot of possession with poor through balls. Ojo was very sloppy playing up front, he seemed to have Armagh's left back beat but often held on to the ball to long or didn't anticipate a pass.
Armagh then hit Liverpool on the counter attack with two quick goals and the match seemed to be over. I think Liverpool manager agreed as he took off Canos and Polgar who were are best players. Both looked very classy on the ball, Polgar played quite deep and was very assured on the ball whilst Canos looked quick, skilful and made some decent deliveries into the box. He also took off Ojo, who was poor.
The subs seemed to revitalise Liverpool a bit (and Armagh were quite happy to settle for a 3-0 lead). [edit] Kent [/edit] (quick, skillful, hold onto the ball to long, but understandable as he was trying to make things happen) went down in the box from a soft shove, after a good passing move but O'Hanlon took a very soft penalty which the keeper saved low to his left. Louie and Phillips picked up two late goals to put Armagh under pressure, but in the end Liverpool deserved nothing.
Can't really comment on the defending as we were too far away. But I think Liverpool's keeper was free of fault for all the goals and made one very good save. The second goal was a good incisive counter attack. The third goal was a header from a corner so I presume someone was at fault, but not sure who.
Liverpool started very poorly, very sloppy passing and weak tackling. Armagh scored a wonder goal from a counter attack (lofted shot from the edge of the 18 yard box), although it was hard to see from the other end of the pitch and I'd like to see a reply to make certain it didn't take a deflection.
After the goal, Liverpool began to dominate possession, but their final ball was awful. No 6 (William Marsh?) was particularly guilty of wasting a lot of possession with poor through balls. Ojo was very sloppy playing up front, he seemed to have Armagh's left back beat but often held on to the ball to long or didn't anticipate a pass.
Armagh then hit Liverpool on the counter attack with two quick goals and the match seemed to be over. I think Liverpool manager agreed as he took off Canos and Polgar who were are best players. Both looked very classy on the ball, Polgar played quite deep and was very assured on the ball whilst Canos looked quick, skilful and made some decent deliveries into the box. He also took off Ojo, who was poor.
The subs seemed to revitalise Liverpool a bit (and Armagh were quite happy to settle for a 3-0 lead). [edit] Kent [/edit] (quick, skillful, hold onto the ball to long, but understandable as he was trying to make things happen) went down in the box from a soft shove, after a good passing move but O'Hanlon took a very soft penalty which the keeper saved low to his left. Louie and Phillips picked up two late goals to put Armagh under pressure, but in the end Liverpool deserved nothing.
Can't really comment on the defending as we were too far away. But I think Liverpool's keeper was free of fault for all the goals and made one very good save. The second goal was a good incisive counter attack. The third goal was a header from a corner so I presume someone was at fault, but not sure who.
Not tonight.
In fairness, the county teams seem to do improbably well at times in the milk cup.
Funny, that was basically the same side who did so well last year. Maybe their young age is a problem.
Went to the under 16 match today. I positioned myself behind the opposition goal, expecting Liverpool to crush O’Higgins.
Liverpool started very poorly, very sloppy passing and weak tackling. O’Higgins scored a wonder goal from a counter attack (lofted shot from the edge of the 18 yard box), although it was hard to see from the other end of the pitch and I'd like to see a reply to make certain it didn't take a deflection.
I was getting a sense of deja vu, but thankfully it was unfounded.
Liverpool woke up and went on to win 3-1 today. Ojo was dropped and the team centred round Canos, who played as part of an interchanging front three with Kent and Wilson. Canos and Kent linked up particularly well. The two of them played lots of one-twos and caused lots of problems for O’Higgins. Slightly worried that Canos looked to have tweaked his hamstring with his last kick, Liverpool will need him for Newcastle tomorrow.
Wilson was lucky not to get sent off for doing a Zidaneesq chest headbutt, but he got off with a yellow (he didn't make much contact).
No 15, Burgos also had a good game.
Liverpool started very poorly, very sloppy passing and weak tackling. O’Higgins scored a wonder goal from a counter attack (lofted shot from the edge of the 18 yard box), although it was hard to see from the other end of the pitch and I'd like to see a reply to make certain it didn't take a deflection.
I was getting a sense of deja vu, but thankfully it was unfounded.
Liverpool woke up and went on to win 3-1 today. Ojo was dropped and the team centred round Canos, who played as part of an interchanging front three with Kent and Wilson. Canos and Kent linked up particularly well. The two of them played lots of one-twos and caused lots of problems for O’Higgins. Slightly worried that Canos looked to have tweaked his hamstring with his last kick, Liverpool will need him for Newcastle tomorrow.
Wilson was lucky not to get sent off for doing a Zidaneesq chest headbutt, but he got off with a yellow (he didn't make much contact).
No 15, Burgos also had a good game.
Tyrell Belford: Former Liverpool goalkeeper joins Swindon Town
Swindon Town have signed goalkeeper Tyrell Belford on a two-year deal following his release by Liverpool.
Belford joined the academy system at Anfield in 2009, having spent time on the books at Coventry City.
The 19-year-old is the son of former keeper and current Tamworth manager Dale Belford, who played alongside Swindon's caretaker boss Mark Cooper.
He has yet to make a senior appearance but told BBC Wiltshire: "I've just got to come here and work hard."
Belford continued: "I've played a few games at Under 21 level and I've been away with the Liverpool first team so it's been brilliant for me.
"I've heard a lot of good things about Swindon and it's on the way up. I've seen the manager has got belief in the young players, so it's great for me."
Belford, whose brother Cameron played in League One with Bury, will compete for a place in the squad with first-choice Wes Foderingham and back-up keeper Leigh Bedwell.
"I'm not going to put any pressure on myself to do anything," he added.
"But if I can get some first-team experience that would be brilliant."
Swindon Town have signed goalkeeper Tyrell Belford on a two-year deal following his release by Liverpool.
Belford joined the academy system at Anfield in 2009, having spent time on the books at Coventry City.
The 19-year-old is the son of former keeper and current Tamworth manager Dale Belford, who played alongside Swindon's caretaker boss Mark Cooper.
He has yet to make a senior appearance but told BBC Wiltshire: "I've just got to come here and work hard."
Belford continued: "I've played a few games at Under 21 level and I've been away with the Liverpool first team so it's been brilliant for me.
"I've heard a lot of good things about Swindon and it's on the way up. I've seen the manager has got belief in the young players, so it's great for me."
Belford, whose brother Cameron played in League One with Bury, will compete for a place in the squad with first-choice Wes Foderingham and back-up keeper Leigh Bedwell.
"I'm not going to put any pressure on myself to do anything," he added.
"But if I can get some first-team experience that would be brilliant."
Semi-finals of the Milk Cup today. The u17s just failed on goal difference to make the 'top 4' (milk cup is weird structure and I can't be arsed explaining) because of that opening defeat, so think they play Corinthians as part of the best runners up tournament. They won their final game 4-2 against Newcastle, goals here
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Wilson and Kent continue to look unfeasibly exciting, both have goals in them as well as pace and a final ball, definitely ones to keep an eye on. It looks a really good team to me tbh, seems to have quality throughout the attacking positions at the very least, so not sure what happened against that Irish side.
The u15s got through to the proper semi finals, won 2 and drew one. Obviously I know much less about them as the u16s get less coverage. There are some highlights somewhere on that BBC page though, but I don't have time to dig them out at the moment. The new signing Herbie Kane has scored a couple, and also was interested to see that Conor Masterson has played and scored a good goal. He's the now 14 year old Irish centre half we signed up last summer, reportedly for over £1m. Looks very tall for his age!
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Wilson and Kent continue to look unfeasibly exciting, both have goals in them as well as pace and a final ball, definitely ones to keep an eye on. It looks a really good team to me tbh, seems to have quality throughout the attacking positions at the very least, so not sure what happened against that Irish side.
The u15s got through to the proper semi finals, won 2 and drew one. Obviously I know much less about them as the u16s get less coverage. There are some highlights somewhere on that BBC page though, but I don't have time to dig them out at the moment. The new signing Herbie Kane has scored a couple, and also was interested to see that Conor Masterson has played and scored a good goal. He's the now 14 year old Irish centre half we signed up last summer, reportedly for over £1m. Looks very tall for his age!
Wilson and Kent played well again. Wilson needs to work on his temperament though, he looks like a walking yellow card at times. He runs with the ball and lot so he takes a lot of kicks, but he sometimes loses it.
The match was a lot closer than the scoreline suggested, and Newcastle could have easily won. Weather conditions were very poor and I wonder how the match would have turned out if the pitch was dry.
Polgar was excellent again and looks assured and confident when bringing the ball out of defence.
The match was a lot closer than the scoreline suggested, and Newcastle could have easily won. Weather conditions were very poor and I wonder how the match would have turned out if the pitch was dry.
Polgar was excellent again and looks assured and confident when bringing the ball out of defence.
Oh ok, interesting. I've seen others saying how galling it was us missing out on goal difference because we missed loads of sitters in the second half, so guess it was a lot tighter than that.
I wonder how old some of these sides we're playing against are, though, tbf. Almost all these lads will be eligible again for this age group next year; I noticed that Man Utd's star player Pereira is less than a month younger than Jordon Ibe. So if you added Ibe, Rossiter, and Sinclair to the team it might be a fairer reflection of the academy - again, not sure what other clubs are doing in that regard.
Ok, enough excuses 🙂
I wonder how old some of these sides we're playing against are, though, tbf. Almost all these lads will be eligible again for this age group next year; I noticed that Man Utd's star player Pereira is less than a month younger than Jordon Ibe. So if you added Ibe, Rossiter, and Sinclair to the team it might be a fairer reflection of the academy - again, not sure what other clubs are doing in that regard.
Ok, enough excuses 🙂
Both sides missed chances, so maybe they are seeing it with some red tinted spectacles? One of the things I did notice is that we are perhaps taking too many touches around the opposition box (a la Arsenal) and perhaps not shooting early enough sometimes.
I can't help but feel they took the result against the local side for granted as the team was very different for the next two games. I'm not sure if it was because they deliberately played a weaker team, or if it was because the team played so badly in the first match so they swapped the players around after a poor performance.
It's a pity they didn't get through as they were attracting some decent crowds to the games. But there are definitely a few promising players in the team
Yeah, that's what I was saying re: the red tintedness.
Not surprised we were taking so many touches, from what I can work out the whole front 6 was very technical and tippy tappy - if I've got it right we played a front 3 of Wilson, Canos and Kent with O'Hanlon behind, and Chirivella and Ojo in midfield. I mean, promising that we have so many quality technicians but I'd imagine it might be a bit ineffective if not bang in form, especially against a more powerful and direct side.
Not surprised we were taking so many touches, from what I can work out the whole front 6 was very technical and tippy tappy - if I've got it right we played a front 3 of Wilson, Canos and Kent with O'Hanlon behind, and Chirivella and Ojo in midfield. I mean, promising that we have so many quality technicians but I'd imagine it might be a bit ineffective if not bang in form, especially against a more powerful and direct side.
I think that's right. Though it was quite a fluid formation at times as seemed to convert to a back 3 with wing backs when they were in possession. Similiar to the way Martinez set up Wigan.
There is a tiny article in the Belfast Telegraph about Canos today. It's not worth looking for it, but it's nice to see him getting a bit of recognition. Basically, says he's impressive, he came from Barca, and he was sought after by many European clubs.
The u21s are playing Bologna right now, second half just started. I think it's somewhere close to their first team. Anyway, 2-1 to Bologna at half-time, Peterson with our goal - he does score goals, Peterson, there's no denying that.
A new European Under-19 club competition, the UEFA Youth League, will begin in the 2013/14 season to give young players international competition experience at club level.@footballtshirteu
The 32 clubs that qualify for the 2013/14 UEFA Champions League group stage will also be given the opportunity to participate in the UEFA Youth League from next season. A 96-game group stage will take place between September and December 2013, with fixtures being played around or on the same dates as the UEFA Champions League at grounds in close proximity to the venues used for those matches, where logistics allow. The eight group winners and eight runners-up from the UEFA Youth League group stage will then participate in a knockout phase, played in single matches, from February 2014 onwards.
The trophy will be named after the UEFA honorary president Lennart Johansson. This format will remain for a second year before a review is held, which also ensures that the UEFA Youth League runs alongside the existing club competition cycle which ends after the 2014/15 campaign.
"We believe the UEFA Youth League is an attractive additional proposition for UEFA Champions League clubs," said UEFA President Michel Platini. "We have now created a competitive opportunity for youth players to be involved in international matches at club level. It allows us to provide a development opportunity and great experience not only for the players, but also for referees, who will be appointed on an international basis.
"Additionally, UEFA will bring its organisational control to these matches, which will mirror closely the UEFA Champions League season. There are benefits for clubs, as they will be able to bridge the gap between their youth and first teams, and enhance their commitment to developing their teams at youth level. Our objective is only driven by a sporting perspective."
The 32 clubs that qualify for the 2013/14 UEFA Champions League group stage will also be given the opportunity to participate in the UEFA Youth League from next season. A 96-game group stage will take place between September and December 2013, with fixtures being played around or on the same dates as the UEFA Champions League at grounds in close proximity to the venues used for those matches, where logistics allow. The eight group winners and eight runners-up from the UEFA Youth League group stage will then participate in a knockout phase, played in single matches, from February 2014 onwards.
The trophy will be named after the UEFA honorary president Lennart Johansson. This format will remain for a second year before a review is held, which also ensures that the UEFA Youth League runs alongside the existing club competition cycle which ends after the 2014/15 campaign.
"We believe the UEFA Youth League is an attractive additional proposition for UEFA Champions League clubs," said UEFA President Michel Platini. "We have now created a competitive opportunity for youth players to be involved in international matches at club level. It allows us to provide a development opportunity and great experience not only for the players, but also for referees, who will be appointed on an international basis.
"Additionally, UEFA will bring its organisational control to these matches, which will mirror closely the UEFA Champions League season. There are benefits for clubs, as they will be able to bridge the gap between their youth and first teams, and enhance their commitment to developing their teams at youth level. Our objective is only driven by a sporting perspective."
There will be one national division, the Barclays Under-21 Premier League, comprised of 22 Category 1 Academies.
The Academies involved are: Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Norwich City, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham hotspur, West Bromwich Albion, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Having played each other once, either home or away, the top four teams in the table will progress to the semi-final stage and final to determine the overall Barclays Under-21 Premier League winners.
The Academies who finish first and fourth in the League will meet in one semi-final, with the former at home, while the second and third-placed clubs will meet in the other semi-final, with the League runners-up deemed the home team.
This season each team is required to play at least three of their home matches at their nominated home stadium, with training grounds and Academy venues permitted for the staging of up to three home matches.
The Academies involved are: Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Norwich City, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham hotspur, West Bromwich Albion, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Having played each other once, either home or away, the top four teams in the table will progress to the semi-final stage and final to determine the overall Barclays Under-21 Premier League winners.
The Academies who finish first and fourth in the League will meet in one semi-final, with the former at home, while the second and third-placed clubs will meet in the other semi-final, with the League runners-up deemed the home team.
This season each team is required to play at least three of their home matches at their nominated home stadium, with training grounds and Academy venues permitted for the staging of up to three home matches.
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