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Finished 4-1, defender Sam Hart with the third. Some kid called Sergio Canosio got the 4th. 
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Wonderkid.
Wow! A young footballer who knows the difference between 'of' and 'have'.
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Wonderkid.
But he can't put his own name in title case?
Actually used 'have got' too, not the Americanism 'have gotten'.
I like this kid!
I like this kid!
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/140481-young-reds-sink-blues
Young Reds sink Blues
The away side took the lead but Harry Wilson netted an equaliser after a sublime through ball from Alex O'Hanlon. It was the Welshman's third goal in two games.
Ryan Kent then made it 2-1 before left-back Sam Hart fired home a spectacular effort.
Young Spaniard Sergi Canos came off the bench in the second half and netted to make it 4-1.
Liverpool U18s team: Ryan Crump, Jack Alexander (Dharius Waldron 45), David Roberts (Sam Hart 45), Dan Cleary, Tom Brewitt (Kristof Polgar 45, Nathan Burke (Sergi Canos), Will Marsh (Phillips), Seyi Ojo (Connor Randall), Louis Robles (Ryan Kent 45), Alex O'Hanlon (Pedro Chirivella), Harry Wilson (Matty Virtue).
Author: Steve Hunter
Young Reds sink Blues
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Ryan Kent then made it 2-1 before left-back Sam Hart fired home a spectacular effort.
Young Spaniard Sergi Canos came off the bench in the second half and netted to make it 4-1.
Liverpool U18s team: Ryan Crump, Jack Alexander (Dharius Waldron 45), David Roberts (Sam Hart 45), Dan Cleary, Tom Brewitt (Kristof Polgar 45, Nathan Burke (Sergi Canos), Will Marsh (Phillips), Seyi Ojo (Connor Randall), Louis Robles (Ryan Kent 45), Alex O'Hanlon (Pedro Chirivella), Harry Wilson (Matty Virtue).
Author: Steve Hunter
The U-21s beat Glentoran 1-0 with a goal from Peterson. Interesting thing was the team. Interesting to see Rossiter among the subs. Looks like he's really being fast-tracked - I wonder if he'll be the next one to break the age record for the first team.
Sokolik is back but looks like Smith and Pelosi are still unavailable.
Liverpool team: Ryan Fulton, Ryan McLaughlin, Craig Roddan, Stephen Sama, Jakub Sokolik, Jordan Lussey, Adam Morgan, Joao Carlos Teixeira, Villyan Bijev, Nacho, Kris Peterson.
Subs used: Jack Dunn, Jordan Rossiter, Daniel Trickett-Smith, Lloyd Jones.
Sokolik is back but looks like Smith and Pelosi are still unavailable.
Liverpool team: Ryan Fulton, Ryan McLaughlin, Craig Roddan, Stephen Sama, Jakub Sokolik, Jordan Lussey, Adam Morgan, Joao Carlos Teixeira, Villyan Bijev, Nacho, Kris Peterson.
Subs used: Jack Dunn, Jordan Rossiter, Daniel Trickett-Smith, Lloyd Jones.
Definitely interesting about Rossiter - I'm not sure if he was even starting u18 games at the start of last season, so it's remarkable progress. He won't be breaking the age record though: he's already a few months older than Sinclair was when he played against West Brom. Tbh that record could stand for decades as essentially we'd have to play a 15 year old to break it.
As for the u18s highlights, I thought O'Hanlon looked really good, much better than I've ever seen him before: quick, incisive, very good passer. Ryan Kent continues to look excellent, technically very sound, very fast, and always a good end product. As for Canos, I thought you could see his class immediately: just so assured on the ball. I wonder if he might be more of a striker than a winger, though, as he seems to have a brilliant eye for goal and gifted finishing abilities, and also, even though he's fast and a good dribbler, I wonder if he might be more of a Torres than an Iniesta: he's got quite a solid frame which just tends not to work so well in creative positions. Finally, I thought the new CB Polgar looked remarkably good on the ball for a defender, if nothing else!
Canos will be a beast.
How good does Teixeira look?! Completely different now his injuries seem to be behind him. Wonder what the plan is for him this season, because on that evidence he'd be wasted in the reserves.
Reading the blog on TheNextGenKopies (http://thenextgenkopites.wordpress.com/), I noticed this bit:
What happened to Cooper? Has he left the club, or returned to the Academy Manager role he held previously before relinquishing it to take over the U-18s squad when Mike Marsh was promoted (see below *)?
Official LFC site doesn't have any news on the personnel changes / movements, and still lists Cooper as the U-18s manager.
What happened to Cooper? Has he left the club, or returned to the Academy Manager role he held previously before relinquishing it to take over the U-18s squad when Mike Marsh was promoted (see below *)?
Official LFC site doesn't have any news on the personnel changes / movements, and still lists Cooper as the U-18s manager.
Morgan's not going to make it. At 17 or 18 you can see the slight lack of class but try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I think you always know deep down that players like him just aren't going to be good enough. By this point they have to be really excellent at reserves level if they're going to step up, and he just hasn't been. Tbf there was quite a number of other players in that u21 line up who fall into that category:
Sama
Roddan
Sokolik
Nacho
Bijev
Peterson
Sama
Roddan
Sokolik
Nacho
Bijev
Peterson
Is it too early to put Bijev in that category? He joined the team very late in the season after getting his permit, so has played just a very limited number of games / minutes I believe. Pretty much agreed on the rest; Baio is another whom I don't fancy to make it in due course.
No, I don't think so. Bijev is already 20, if he was going to be close to good enough you'd have seen signs by now. He was an odd signing in a way, reminiscent of a lot of the no hopers Rafa brought in when the academy wasn't producing anything. I can only think he was so cheap that it was like a free 100/1 bet - what the hell, basically.
I suppose you can split the players into 3 broad categories: very likely to make it, reasonable chance, very unlikely. Making it meaning would be capable of playing at least a squad role for a top 6 team. There are maybe 10 players in the youth sides who fall into the first category, out of maybe 40 or 50 players. Baio I think would go in the 3rd category. The middle would be lads like Dunn, Lussey, Coady, Yesil, Brad Smith, Pelosi etc.
I suppose you can split the players into 3 broad categories: very likely to make it, reasonable chance, very unlikely. Making it meaning would be capable of playing at least a squad role for a top 6 team. There are maybe 10 players in the youth sides who fall into the first category, out of maybe 40 or 50 players. Baio I think would go in the 3rd category. The middle would be lads like Dunn, Lussey, Coady, Yesil, Brad Smith, Pelosi etc.
Not that sure really, it's a bit harder to say now since they stopped televising most of the u18 games - you're more reliant on word of mouth from forums etc and whatever you can glean from highlights, and he's not one a lot of people rave about, for one reason or another. What I would say, in no particular order
- looks bigger and more powerful than ever from latest u18 videos. Easily the most impressive athlete at the academy... probably at the whole club pretty soon.
- last season seemed a bit of an in-between on for him, too good for the u16s, probably a bit *too* young for the 18s at the start. So didn't always play for the first 4 or 5 months - I think he came more into the side after xmas.
- despite that, still worth checking out his very good performance vs wolves last season, that tells you everything you need to know about his potential. Tbh not quite sure how a player can look *so* dominant in one game and apparently not so much in others... inconsistency of youth? Attitude problems? Not sure really. He looked like a prodigy in that video, though.
- He's got the ability to be a winger or wing forward, but to me can't help thinking he'd be best as a Yaya Toure-style midfield powerhouse. He's got everything: can tackle, shield the ball, good technique and passing, can burst forward at pace, attacks well. He and Rossiter could potentially be the engine of our midfield for 10 years if things progress well.
- looks bigger and more powerful than ever from latest u18 videos. Easily the most impressive athlete at the academy... probably at the whole club pretty soon.
- last season seemed a bit of an in-between on for him, too good for the u16s, probably a bit *too* young for the 18s at the start. So didn't always play for the first 4 or 5 months - I think he came more into the side after xmas.
- despite that, still worth checking out his very good performance vs wolves last season, that tells you everything you need to know about his potential. Tbh not quite sure how a player can look *so* dominant in one game and apparently not so much in others... inconsistency of youth? Attitude problems? Not sure really. He looked like a prodigy in that video, though.
- He's got the ability to be a winger or wing forward, but to me can't help thinking he'd be best as a Yaya Toure-style midfield powerhouse. He's got everything: can tackle, shield the ball, good technique and passing, can burst forward at pace, attacks well. He and Rossiter could potentially be the engine of our midfield for 10 years if things progress well.
That secret footballer wrote an article about this kinda thing recently, basically saying it makes good business sense to buy them up, loan them out and sell them on, even if you have to pay their wages. Fairly common sense stuff, but I guess shows it's common knowledge
http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/13001/spurs-can-only-profit-from-chadli-capture/
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Liverpool are in talks with Derby Country, over the potential sale of Jon Flanagan. Via 
They sold Brayford to Cardiff for £1.3m (raising up to £2m).
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/story-19576371-detail/story.html
Their local press claim "DERBY County are talking to Premier League clubs as they look to add two defenders to their squad – a right-back and a centre-back. They will be either loans or permanent deals, depending on the view of the other clubs."
Think it might be a loan deal. Don't think we'll get more than the amount they sold Brayford for either.
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/story-19576371-detail/story.html
Their local press claim "DERBY County are talking to Premier League clubs as they look to add two defenders to their squad – a right-back and a centre-back. They will be either loans or permanent deals, depending on the view of the other clubs."
Think it might be a loan deal. Don't think we'll get more than the amount they sold Brayford for either.
(Friendly) Hearts 0 Liverpool XI 1
Fulton, Sama, Roddan, Rafa, Sokolick, Rossiter, Petersen, Teixeira, Morgan, Smith, Donn
Subs: Jones, Mensin, Nacho, Brannigan, Maguire, Hossey
The Rafa lad is a trialist (apparently Rafa Paez from Real Madrid).
Alex Inglethorpe - "Rafa is on trial, we will monitor his progress here. Hopefully he can adapt to the English game"
"Joao is a working progress, he knows there are elements in his game that he can improve on, that's exciting. He mentally protected himself out there, which is most pleasing"
Fulton, Sama, Roddan, Rafa, Sokolick, Rossiter, Petersen, Teixeira, Morgan, Smith, Donn
Subs: Jones, Mensin, Nacho, Brannigan, Maguire, Hossey
The Rafa lad is a trialist (apparently Rafa Paez from Real Madrid).
Alex Inglethorpe - "Rafa is on trial, we will monitor his progress here. Hopefully he can adapt to the English game"
"Joao is a working progress, he knows there are elements in his game that he can improve on, that's exciting. He mentally protected himself out there, which is most pleasing"
Took this one in. It was a fairly lackluster performance by both sides probably in large part to the exerting temperatures. In particular I was looking forward to monitoring Teixeira in a live match. On the ball he was great, delivering slick, incisive passes, exhibiting great game intelligence and awareness of his team mates, little deft touches you come to expect with players from that part of the world but, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he was probably getting fried down there at pitch level, off the ball he was extremely lazy and acted like a fanny (he passed the ball inwards and the other liverpool player was no where near it and he sort of just flapped his arms up and blamed his teammate then didn't chase after it. His tendency to fall to the floor easier than it should and suffering from Meireles-syndrome in terms of his tackling was a tad embarrassing. Despite that, if he can do something to rectify these and work hard, he could be a very bright talent indeed because he has the necessary tools to make it.) The 'mentally protected himself' part that Alex Inglethorpe alludes to is the way he was kicked and fouled and not reacting to their intimidation.
Around this time last year I highlighted Harry Wilson, Ojo and Rossiter at the Milk Cup and I seen the latter again today and I wasn't disappointed. If ever we needed a time machine to fast forward the development of a player in a position we require at first-team level, he's the one. Constantly getting into positions on the pitch were he's free to receive a pass, ALWAYS wanting the ball, accurate passer over short and long distances, passing and moving, despite not being the biggest in stature uses his body strength to hold off opponents to good effect and contains the tenacity and feistiness of a young Gerrard. (Towards the end of the game the ball was drifting away from him and with the ball 70-30 in the Hearts man's favour, Jordan quite naughtily went over the top of the ball and the Hearts player inevitably got incensed and hand bags developed. The referee sensibly asked for him to be substituted, but it was good to see he has a bit of bite to his game and he was able to stand up for himself against grown men.). He's rather skillful aswell, there was a moment he was in the defensive third facing his own goal and seemingly an unrisky back pass to a centre back or goalkeeper was expected but he feigned a pass and dragged it back and fooled two Hearts men who were half-way to intercepting the back pass and in doing so opened up the middle of the pitch for himself to run into.
Not only was he vastly younger than every other player on the pitch, he along with this #4 at centre-half, who I hadn't a notion who he was but later found out it was Rafa, were the stars of the show for me. He was very comfortable with the ball at his feet, unusually composed at the back for one so young, able to pick out a teammate with his great array of passing, rarely giving the ball away, and had the confidence and ability to bring the ball out from defence much-like Agger does for the first team, not sure about his pace as the backline were seldom tested. If he is on trial i'd say he'll be signed up pretty soonish!
Around this time last year I highlighted Harry Wilson, Ojo and Rossiter at the Milk Cup and I seen the latter again today and I wasn't disappointed. If ever we needed a time machine to fast forward the development of a player in a position we require at first-team level, he's the one. Constantly getting into positions on the pitch were he's free to receive a pass, ALWAYS wanting the ball, accurate passer over short and long distances, passing and moving, despite not being the biggest in stature uses his body strength to hold off opponents to good effect and contains the tenacity and feistiness of a young Gerrard. (Towards the end of the game the ball was drifting away from him and with the ball 70-30 in the Hearts man's favour, Jordan quite naughtily went over the top of the ball and the Hearts player inevitably got incensed and hand bags developed. The referee sensibly asked for him to be substituted, but it was good to see he has a bit of bite to his game and he was able to stand up for himself against grown men.). He's rather skillful aswell, there was a moment he was in the defensive third facing his own goal and seemingly an unrisky back pass to a centre back or goalkeeper was expected but he feigned a pass and dragged it back and fooled two Hearts men who were half-way to intercepting the back pass and in doing so opened up the middle of the pitch for himself to run into.
Not only was he vastly younger than every other player on the pitch, he along with this #4 at centre-half, who I hadn't a notion who he was but later found out it was Rafa, were the stars of the show for me. He was very comfortable with the ball at his feet, unusually composed at the back for one so young, able to pick out a teammate with his great array of passing, rarely giving the ball away, and had the confidence and ability to bring the ball out from defence much-like Agger does for the first team, not sure about his pace as the backline were seldom tested. If he is on trial i'd say he'll be signed up pretty soonish!
I assume from Binny's post that Brad Smith is back?
Also - who is Hossey on the subs bench there? Or is that actually Lussey?
Also - who is Hossey on the subs bench there? Or is that actually Lussey?
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