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[quote author=keniget link=topic=44569.msg1300796#msg1300796 date=1300360553]
Everyone has Kelly playing at RB where he will probably continue to play for a while yet and Wilson, so far, has looked pretty awful.
In an ideal world, we would get a new CB. We've needed one for at least 18 months now.
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Wilson just needs a run at CB, he definitely not comfortable at left back. I think Kelly should start next season at CB with Carra or a FULLY fit Agger beside him. We sell Skrtel, we keep the Greek for emergencies because his trade-in value is negligible anyway. By the end of next season I'd like to see Kelly & Wilson ensconsed at the heart of our defence.
I have no doubts that both Kelly & Wilson are the "real deal" and can't wait to see their partnership blossom - who knows they could be the new Hansen/Lawro pairing - no pressure lads.
Everyone has Kelly playing at RB where he will probably continue to play for a while yet and Wilson, so far, has looked pretty awful.
In an ideal world, we would get a new CB. We've needed one for at least 18 months now.
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Wilson just needs a run at CB, he definitely not comfortable at left back. I think Kelly should start next season at CB with Carra or a FULLY fit Agger beside him. We sell Skrtel, we keep the Greek for emergencies because his trade-in value is negligible anyway. By the end of next season I'd like to see Kelly & Wilson ensconsed at the heart of our defence.
I have no doubts that both Kelly & Wilson are the "real deal" and can't wait to see their partnership blossom - who knows they could be the new Hansen/Lawro pairing - no pressure lads.
it'll be interesting to see what's 'realistic' though. i remember mark mc saying at the end of the jan window that from now on we'll be shopping at harrods...he generally knows his stuff, doesn't he?
i've thought all along that FSG might be wise to inject another £50m or so into the squad, which would imo take a £300m investment in a top 6 club to a £350m investment in a title-challenging club. easy for me to say, but that looks like bloody good value to me. if you add that to a 'normal' budget of, say, £15m, then we'd have a £65m net spend, enough to completely transform the squad.
wishful thinking, maybe, but the sounds coming from mark and other ITKs suggest we've got our eyes on some really top draw players - someone on RAWK reckons our top 2 targets are hazard and sanchez.
i've thought all along that FSG might be wise to inject another £50m or so into the squad, which would imo take a £300m investment in a top 6 club to a £350m investment in a title-challenging club. easy for me to say, but that looks like bloody good value to me. if you add that to a 'normal' budget of, say, £15m, then we'd have a £65m net spend, enough to completely transform the squad.
wishful thinking, maybe, but the sounds coming from mark and other ITKs suggest we've got our eyes on some really top draw players - someone on RAWK reckons our top 2 targets are hazard and sanchez.
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=44569.msg1300816#msg1300816 date=1300361841]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44569.msg1300796#msg1300796 date=1300360553]
Everyone has Kelly playing at RB where he will probably continue to play for a while yet and Wilson, so far, has looked pretty awful.
In an ideal world, we would get a new CB. We've needed one for at least 18 months now.
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Wilson just needs a run at CB, he definitely not comfortable at left back. I think Kelly should start next season at CB with Carra or a FULLY fit Agger beside him. We sell Skrtel, we keep the Greek for emergencies because his trade-in value is negligible anyway. By the end of next season I'd like to see Kelly & Wilson ensconsed at the heart of our defence.
I have no doubts that both Kelly & Wilson are the "real deal" and can't wait to see their partnership blossom - who knows they could be the new Hansen/Lawro pairing - no pressure lads.
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We have been in disarray on the pitch for a couple of seasons now and what we need is stability especially at the back. Throwing in kids there at this point would really not be a good idea in my opinion. Besides, any pair from Kelly, Wilson, Carra, Agger still lack aerial ability so, again in my opinion, we need a commanding CB at some point anyway.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44569.msg1300796#msg1300796 date=1300360553]
Everyone has Kelly playing at RB where he will probably continue to play for a while yet and Wilson, so far, has looked pretty awful.
In an ideal world, we would get a new CB. We've needed one for at least 18 months now.
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Wilson just needs a run at CB, he definitely not comfortable at left back. I think Kelly should start next season at CB with Carra or a FULLY fit Agger beside him. We sell Skrtel, we keep the Greek for emergencies because his trade-in value is negligible anyway. By the end of next season I'd like to see Kelly & Wilson ensconsed at the heart of our defence.
I have no doubts that both Kelly & Wilson are the "real deal" and can't wait to see their partnership blossom - who knows they could be the new Hansen/Lawro pairing - no pressure lads.
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We have been in disarray on the pitch for a couple of seasons now and what we need is stability especially at the back. Throwing in kids there at this point would really not be a good idea in my opinion. Besides, any pair from Kelly, Wilson, Carra, Agger still lack aerial ability so, again in my opinion, we need a commanding CB at some point anyway.
I have no problem with johnson starting at left back, next season. none.
however we do need someone for cover but that person clearly isn't wilson, or agger, or aurelio or cuntchesky
however we do need someone for cover but that person clearly isn't wilson, or agger, or aurelio or cuntchesky
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[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=44569.msg1300816#msg1300816 date=1300361841]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44569.msg1300796#msg1300796 date=1300360553]
Everyone has Kelly playing at RB where he will probably continue to play for a while yet and Wilson, so far, has looked pretty awful.
In an ideal world, we would get a new CB. We've needed one for at least 18 months now.
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Wilson just needs a run at CB, he definitely not comfortable at left back. I think Kelly should start next season at CB with Carra or a FULLY fit Agger beside him. We sell Skrtel, we keep the Greek for emergencies because his trade-in value is negligible anyway. By the end of next season I'd like to see Kelly & Wilson ensconsed at the heart of our defence.
I have no doubts that both Kelly & Wilson are the "real deal" and can't wait to see their partnership blossom - who knows they could be the new Hansen/Lawro pairing - no pressure lads.
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We have been in disarray on the pitch for a couple of seasons now and what we need is stability especially at the back. Throwing in kids there at this point would really not be a good idea in my opinion. Besides, any pair from Kelly, Wilson, Carra, Agger still lack aerial ability so, again in my opinion, we need a commanding CB at some point anyway.
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Hansen & Lawrenson were hardly dominant in the air and that was in an era when every team had a big man e.g Peter Withe, Niall Quinn, Paul Mariner, Mark Hateley etc. As it happens Wilson is strong in the air and Kelly is decent.
Obviously it's a risk to throw these 2 in but if Kenny believes they're good enough (and I think he does) then it's worth the risk and the end of this season to try them together.
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=44569.msg1300816#msg1300816 date=1300361841]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44569.msg1300796#msg1300796 date=1300360553]
Everyone has Kelly playing at RB where he will probably continue to play for a while yet and Wilson, so far, has looked pretty awful.
In an ideal world, we would get a new CB. We've needed one for at least 18 months now.
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Wilson just needs a run at CB, he definitely not comfortable at left back. I think Kelly should start next season at CB with Carra or a FULLY fit Agger beside him. We sell Skrtel, we keep the Greek for emergencies because his trade-in value is negligible anyway. By the end of next season I'd like to see Kelly & Wilson ensconsed at the heart of our defence.
I have no doubts that both Kelly & Wilson are the "real deal" and can't wait to see their partnership blossom - who knows they could be the new Hansen/Lawro pairing - no pressure lads.
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We have been in disarray on the pitch for a couple of seasons now and what we need is stability especially at the back. Throwing in kids there at this point would really not be a good idea in my opinion. Besides, any pair from Kelly, Wilson, Carra, Agger still lack aerial ability so, again in my opinion, we need a commanding CB at some point anyway.
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Hansen & Lawrenson were hardly dominant in the air and that was in an era when every team had a big man e.g Peter Withe, Niall Quinn, Paul Mariner, Mark Hateley etc. As it happens Wilson is strong in the air and Kelly is decent.
Obviously it's a risk to throw these 2 in but if Kenny believes they're good enough (and I think he does) then it's worth the risk and the end of this season to try them together.
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=44569.msg1300855#msg1300855 date=1300366840]
Hansen & Lawrenson were hardly dominant in the air and that was in an era when every team had a big man e.g Peter Withe, Niall Quinn, Paul Mariner, Mark Hateley etc. As it happens Wilson is strong in the air and Kelly is decent.
Obviously it's a risk to throw these 2 in but if Kenny believes they're good enough (and I think he does) then it's worth the risk and the end of this season to try them together.
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I'd be amazed if we saw a Kelly-Wilson combination at CB this season.
Hansen & Lawrenson were hardly dominant in the air and that was in an era when every team had a big man e.g Peter Withe, Niall Quinn, Paul Mariner, Mark Hateley etc. As it happens Wilson is strong in the air and Kelly is decent.
Obviously it's a risk to throw these 2 in but if Kenny believes they're good enough (and I think he does) then it's worth the risk and the end of this season to try them together.
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I'd be amazed if we saw a Kelly-Wilson combination at CB this season.
I'd be amazed to see them in anything other than the league Cup or a friendly next season too.
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44569.msg1300868#msg1300868 date=1300368961]
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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That and it could also be devastating for their confidence and thus development.
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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That and it could also be devastating for their confidence and thus development.
Carra out at FB for a few years worked well
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44569.msg1300868#msg1300868 date=1300368961]
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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What constitutes a season-ending disaster though Bunny? To be honest I'm not that bothered about the Europa Cup berth so if it become evident that we have no chance of a top 4 finish then i see no reason why we can't ry them together. And if it's the difference between finishing 5th or 7th I think it's worth it to see what these 2 are about.
We'll never win the league with an ageing Carra or an unfit Agger and Skrtel & Kyriakos are just squaddies. Why spend £20m on a top CB when the answer could be right under our noses.
They'll both be 21 this year and although that's young it's not excessively young and they're both on the fringe of full international honours already. I think the last 3 league games we should experiment.
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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What constitutes a season-ending disaster though Bunny? To be honest I'm not that bothered about the Europa Cup berth so if it become evident that we have no chance of a top 4 finish then i see no reason why we can't ry them together. And if it's the difference between finishing 5th or 7th I think it's worth it to see what these 2 are about.
We'll never win the league with an ageing Carra or an unfit Agger and Skrtel & Kyriakos are just squaddies. Why spend £20m on a top CB when the answer could be right under our noses.
They'll both be 21 this year and although that's young it's not excessively young and they're both on the fringe of full international honours already. I think the last 3 league games we should experiment.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44569.msg1300868#msg1300868 date=1300368961]
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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What constitutes a season-ending disaster though Bunny? To be honest I'm not that bothered about the Europa Cup berth so if it become evident that we have no chance of a top 4 finish then i see no reason why we can't ry them together. And if it's the difference between finishing 5th or 7th I think it's worth it to see what these 2 are about.
We'll never win the league with an ageing Carra or an unfit Agger and Skrtel & Kyriakos are just squaddies. Why spend £20m on a top CB when the answer could be right under our noses.
They'll both be 21 this year and although that's young it's not excessively young and they're both on the fringe of full international honours already. I think the last 3 league games we should experiment.
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I like your optimism but I dont think it will happen. Im not against giving them a run this season but not together.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44569.msg1300868#msg1300868 date=1300368961]
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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What constitutes a season-ending disaster though Bunny? To be honest I'm not that bothered about the Europa Cup berth so if it become evident that we have no chance of a top 4 finish then i see no reason why we can't ry them together. And if it's the difference between finishing 5th or 7th I think it's worth it to see what these 2 are about.
We'll never win the league with an ageing Carra or an unfit Agger and Skrtel & Kyriakos are just squaddies. Why spend £20m on a top CB when the answer could be right under our noses.
They'll both be 21 this year and although that's young it's not excessively young and they're both on the fringe of full international honours already. I think the last 3 league games we should experiment.
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I like your optimism but I dont think it will happen. Im not against giving them a run this season but not together.
It frustrates me how we've got used to this slowly-slowly approach to bedding in young players. How old are Smalling and the Da Silva's, they are all the same age as Kelly & Wilson.
I know that Smalling is only in because of Ferdinand's injury but Ferguson didn't waste time with Wes Brown or Evans to replace him he went for 21 year old Smalling.
United have recently fielded 2 x 21 year olds in their defence (Da Silva & Smalling) why shouldn't we? I think Kelly & Wilson have more potential than their 2 and it's not as if our centre back position is looking particularly good at present.
I know that Smalling is only in because of Ferdinand's injury but Ferguson didn't waste time with Wes Brown or Evans to replace him he went for 21 year old Smalling.
United have recently fielded 2 x 21 year olds in their defence (Da Silva & Smalling) why shouldn't we? I think Kelly & Wilson have more potential than their 2 and it's not as if our centre back position is looking particularly good at present.
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=44569.msg1300875#msg1300875 date=1300369759]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44569.msg1300868#msg1300868 date=1300368961]
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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What constitutes a season-ending disaster though Bunny? To be honest I'm not that bothered about the Europa Cup berth so if it become evident that we have no chance of a top 4 finish then i see no reason why we can't ry them together. And if it's the difference between finishing 5th or 7th I think it's worth it to see what these 2 are about.
We'll never win the league with an ageing Carra or an unfit Agger and Skrtel & Kyriakos are just squaddies. Why spend £20m on a top CB when the answer could be right under our noses.
They'll both be 21 this year and although that's young it's not excessively young and they're both on the fringe of full international honours already. I think the last 3 league games we should experiment.
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I was thinking more of next season really. I still think it makes more sense to bring them in one at a time though. Besides, Kelly's injured and is in any case one of only two decent full-backs in the squad. If it came to a choice between Skrtel and Wilson for partnering Carra, I'd happily give Wilson a chance, I suppose, because Skrtel's not going to improve much.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44569.msg1300868#msg1300868 date=1300368961]
Exactly. With two young CBs playing together, the potential for season-ending disaster is just too high.
And, as has been said, Kelly is a brilliant RB. Why not let him gain first-team experience by playing there for a couple of seasons?
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What constitutes a season-ending disaster though Bunny? To be honest I'm not that bothered about the Europa Cup berth so if it become evident that we have no chance of a top 4 finish then i see no reason why we can't ry them together. And if it's the difference between finishing 5th or 7th I think it's worth it to see what these 2 are about.
We'll never win the league with an ageing Carra or an unfit Agger and Skrtel & Kyriakos are just squaddies. Why spend £20m on a top CB when the answer could be right under our noses.
They'll both be 21 this year and although that's young it's not excessively young and they're both on the fringe of full international honours already. I think the last 3 league games we should experiment.
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I was thinking more of next season really. I still think it makes more sense to bring them in one at a time though. Besides, Kelly's injured and is in any case one of only two decent full-backs in the squad. If it came to a choice between Skrtel and Wilson for partnering Carra, I'd happily give Wilson a chance, I suppose, because Skrtel's not going to improve much.
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I think we should sell Skrtel and purchase a commanding CB. The Greek can stay if he wants to, but I suspect he'll want to pursue first team football elsewhere. Wilson should be expected to step up.
Agger has just about done enough to stay.
We also need to recall Insua and then buy another LB.
Agger has just about done enough to stay.
We also need to recall Insua and then buy another LB.
Has Insua played for Galatasaray at all?
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[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44569.msg1300781#msg1300781 date=1300359789]
If we've got shed loads of cash to spend this summer then fair enough, but if we don't then buying another CB should be way down on our priority list.
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I'm not at all convinced by that argument. Personally I'd sell Skrtel (erratic) and Agger (always injured) and buy someone who can be a rock at the heart of our defence. The next Vidic, whoever that may be. Carra only has a year or two more at the highest level, so that'd be ideal timing to phase in Kelly or Wilson to partner this Sami-esque colossus.
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This.
I think we need a CB and we need one urgently. Agger, Kelly, Wilson, Carra; sounds like a very good combination of toughness, potential and skill but none of them (least of all Kelly or Wilson) represent a dominant arial CB. I do agree that Hummells or Subotic etc would be expensive but we still need someone who can fill the Vidic/Terry/Sami role. I don't see any of our current stock being able to do so.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44569.msg1300781#msg1300781 date=1300359789]
If we've got shed loads of cash to spend this summer then fair enough, but if we don't then buying another CB should be way down on our priority list.
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I'm not at all convinced by that argument. Personally I'd sell Skrtel (erratic) and Agger (always injured) and buy someone who can be a rock at the heart of our defence. The next Vidic, whoever that may be. Carra only has a year or two more at the highest level, so that'd be ideal timing to phase in Kelly or Wilson to partner this Sami-esque colossus.
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This.
I think we need a CB and we need one urgently. Agger, Kelly, Wilson, Carra; sounds like a very good combination of toughness, potential and skill but none of them (least of all Kelly or Wilson) represent a dominant arial CB. I do agree that Hummells or Subotic etc would be expensive but we still need someone who can fill the Vidic/Terry/Sami role. I don't see any of our current stock being able to do so.
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Has Insua played for Galatasaray at all?
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Quite a few times in fact:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/95818/emiliano-insua?cc=4716
Hasn't played since end of January though.
Has Insua played for Galatasaray at all?
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Quite a few times in fact:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/95818/emiliano-insua?cc=4716
Hasn't played since end of January though.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44569.msg1300930#msg1300930 date=1300378542]
I think we should sell Skrtel and purchase a commanding CB. The Greek can stay if he wants to, but I suspect he'll want to pursue first team football elsewhere. Wilson should be expected to step up.
Agger has just about done enough to stay.
We also need torecall sell Insua or send him to the glue factory and then buy another LB.
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I think we should sell Skrtel and purchase a commanding CB. The Greek can stay if he wants to, but I suspect he'll want to pursue first team football elsewhere. Wilson should be expected to step up.
Agger has just about done enough to stay.
We also need to
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44569.msg1300930#msg1300930 date=1300378542]
I think we should sell Skrtel and purchase a commanding CB. The Greek can stay if he wants to, but I suspect he'll want to pursue first team football elsewhere. Wilson should be expected to step up.
Agger has just about done enough to stay.
We also need to recall Insua and then buy another LB.
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Recall Insua? Are you mad or amnesiac?
I think we should sell Skrtel and purchase a commanding CB. The Greek can stay if he wants to, but I suspect he'll want to pursue first team football elsewhere. Wilson should be expected to step up.
Agger has just about done enough to stay.
We also need to recall Insua and then buy another LB.
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Recall Insua? Are you mad or amnesiac?
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44569.msg1301374#msg1301374 date=1300400391]
Ive changed my mind.
Reina
NEWB
Agger
NEWB
Johnson
NEWB
NEWB
NEWB
Gerrard
Suarez
Carroll.
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No Kelly?
[/quote]Kelly, Meireles, Lucas, Kuyt, Carragher in the squad.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44569.msg1301374#msg1301374 date=1300400391]
Ive changed my mind.
Reina
NEWB
Agger
NEWB
Johnson
NEWB
NEWB
NEWB
Gerrard
Suarez
Carroll.
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No Kelly?
[/quote]Kelly, Meireles, Lucas, Kuyt, Carragher in the squad.
can't be asked to post a line up but rest assured if I did, kuyt woudn't be it.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44569.msg1301393#msg1301393 date=1300400871]
can't be arsed to post a line up but rest assured if I did, kuyt woudn't be it.
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Fixed it for ya.
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gracias 🙂
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can't be arsed to post a line up but rest assured if I did, kuyt woudn't be it.
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Fixed it for ya.
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gracias 🙂
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44569.msg1301387#msg1301387 date=1300400689]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44569.msg1301374#msg1301374 date=1300400391]
Ive changed my mind.
Reina
NEWB
Agger
NEWB
Johnson
NEWB
NEWB
NEWB
Gerrard
Suarez
Carroll.
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Disagree regarding Meireles. Otherwise you're pretty much spot on.
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I don't know , Meireles has been bugging me the last few weeks, even with his goals . I just don't see him as a long term offensive player. I mean his whole career for portugal and porto he played as a defensive midfielder , he joins us ,we find out he can't tackle and now he is playing alot as an attacking midfielder. He doesn't seem to be one thing or the other and it's all a bit up in the air on where best to play him .
Actually what really annoys me is that we don't seem to be able to play a 4-4-2 with 2 central midfielders . It seems none of the combos involving Gerrard, Lucas or Meireles work and we always need all 3 together to function. It's a pain as it means we can't really play with 2 up front and two out wide to stretch teams. Ok at the moment it doesn't matter as we have about as much pace as you'd find in a dead turtle race but in future i would like to see us being able to play with width and get some crosses in , i presumed it was part of the plan when carroll was bought but i have no idea now .
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44569.msg1301374#msg1301374 date=1300400391]
Ive changed my mind.
Reina
NEWB
Agger
NEWB
Johnson
NEWB
NEWB
NEWB
Gerrard
Suarez
Carroll.
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Disagree regarding Meireles. Otherwise you're pretty much spot on.
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I don't know , Meireles has been bugging me the last few weeks, even with his goals . I just don't see him as a long term offensive player. I mean his whole career for portugal and porto he played as a defensive midfielder , he joins us ,we find out he can't tackle and now he is playing alot as an attacking midfielder. He doesn't seem to be one thing or the other and it's all a bit up in the air on where best to play him .
Actually what really annoys me is that we don't seem to be able to play a 4-4-2 with 2 central midfielders . It seems none of the combos involving Gerrard, Lucas or Meireles work and we always need all 3 together to function. It's a pain as it means we can't really play with 2 up front and two out wide to stretch teams. Ok at the moment it doesn't matter as we have about as much pace as you'd find in a dead turtle race but in future i would like to see us being able to play with width and get some crosses in , i presumed it was part of the plan when carroll was bought but i have no idea now .
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