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[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38459.msg1034628#msg1034628 date=1263555924]
You've got Clichy twice, and you'd honestly sell Nando?
[/quote]Yes. I know I'll be the only one, and I love Nando as much as anyone, and of course if we could gaurentee his fitness I wouldn't dream of it, but 80m worth of player in the treatment room may as well be worth fuck all. Trading torres for villa, silva and mata is worth it given the injuries over the last two seasons.
It is with heavy heart though.
You've got Clichy twice, and you'd honestly sell Nando?
[/quote]Yes. I know I'll be the only one, and I love Nando as much as anyone, and of course if we could gaurentee his fitness I wouldn't dream of it, but 80m worth of player in the treatment room may as well be worth fuck all. Trading torres for villa, silva and mata is worth it given the injuries over the last two seasons.
It is with heavy heart though.
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38459.msg1034640#msg1034640 date=1263556362]
Fair enough. I just hope it's down to the 2 years of non stop footy rather than any serious problems, as he never had this many injuries at Atletico. Time will tell.
[/quote]I voiced the same concerns in summer. We are reliant on HOPING he and Gerrard stay fit. A football team can't succeed like that. His pace and power game is so dependant on him working perfectly, that coupled with the shocking treatment he recieves week in week out spell long term disaster to me. Knee, then groin, then ankle now knee again. Players with persistent injuries don't just stop getting them, and we can't afford to have our best player missing half a season every year. So yeah sad but I'd definately let him go.
Fair enough. I just hope it's down to the 2 years of non stop footy rather than any serious problems, as he never had this many injuries at Atletico. Time will tell.
[/quote]I voiced the same concerns in summer. We are reliant on HOPING he and Gerrard stay fit. A football team can't succeed like that. His pace and power game is so dependant on him working perfectly, that coupled with the shocking treatment he recieves week in week out spell long term disaster to me. Knee, then groin, then ankle now knee again. Players with persistent injuries don't just stop getting them, and we can't afford to have our best player missing half a season every year. So yeah sad but I'd definately let him go.
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the_khl
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OUT
Spearing, Plessis, El Zhar, Babel, Aurelio, Skrtel, Darby, Kyrgiakos, Ngog
IN
Higuain (£10M), Simon Kjaer (£9M), Bendtner (£5M + Babel to Arsenal), Oscar Wendt (£3M), Joe Cole (free?)
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GK Reina, Cavalieri
RB Johnson, Degen, Kelly, Carra
CB Carra, Agger, Kjaer, Kelly, Ayala, Mavinga
LB Wendt, Insua, Mavinga
RM Cole, Maxi, Kuyt, Bendtner
DM Masher, Aquilani, Gerrard, Lucas
AM Gerrard, Maxi, Benayoun, Cole, Higuain, Pacheco
LM Riera, Maxi, Higuain, Cole
FW Torres, Bendtner, Higuain, Kuyt, Dalle Valle
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XI
.................................REINA.....................................
JOHNSON.........CARRA.........AGGER...............WENDT
.....................MASHER.............AQUILANI..................
MAXI.........................GERRARD....................HIGUAIN
..............................TORRES......................................
XI II
..............................CAVALIERI..................................
DEGEN.............KJAER.......KELLY......................INSUA
COLE..............LUCAS..........BENAYOUN............RIERA
.....................KUYT...............BENDTNER.....................
Spearing, Plessis, El Zhar, Babel, Aurelio, Skrtel, Darby, Kyrgiakos, Ngog
IN
Higuain (£10M), Simon Kjaer (£9M), Bendtner (£5M + Babel to Arsenal), Oscar Wendt (£3M), Joe Cole (free?)
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GK Reina, Cavalieri
RB Johnson, Degen, Kelly, Carra
CB Carra, Agger, Kjaer, Kelly, Ayala, Mavinga
LB Wendt, Insua, Mavinga
RM Cole, Maxi, Kuyt, Bendtner
DM Masher, Aquilani, Gerrard, Lucas
AM Gerrard, Maxi, Benayoun, Cole, Higuain, Pacheco
LM Riera, Maxi, Higuain, Cole
FW Torres, Bendtner, Higuain, Kuyt, Dalle Valle
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XI
.................................REINA.....................................
JOHNSON.........CARRA.........AGGER...............WENDT
.....................MASHER.............AQUILANI..................
MAXI.........................GERRARD....................HIGUAIN
..............................TORRES......................................
XI II
..............................CAVALIERI..................................
DEGEN.............KJAER.......KELLY......................INSUA
COLE..............LUCAS..........BENAYOUN............RIERA
.....................KUYT...............BENDTNER.....................
Which all neatly explains why you were so delighted with Aquilani replacing Alonso this summer, given that he averaged 16 appearances a season for the last three years at Roma.
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[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38459.msg1034640#msg1034640 date=1263556362]
Fair enough. I just hope it's down to the 2 years of non stop footy rather than any serious problems, as he never had this many injuries at Atletico. Time will tell.
[/quote]I voiced the same concerns in summer. We are reliant on HOPING he and Gerrard stay fit. A football team can't succeed like that. His pace and power game is so dependant on him working perfectly, that coupled with the shocking treatment he recieves week in week out spell long term disaster to me. Knee, then groin, then ankle now knee again. Players with persistent injuries don't just stop getting them, and we can't afford to have our best player missing half a season every year. So yeah sad but I'd definately let him go.
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I know it's a bad state of affairs that we're so reliant on them but that applies to other top teams in the league too. United wouldn't be half the team without Rooney and Giggs (for a spell this season he was excellent). Same goes for Arsenal who aren't the same team without Cesc and RVP etc.
Fair play to you to be able to say you'd sell Torres. My heart would never let me feel it and my head wouldn't want let me think it either. 80million is a fantastic coin for him but would we even see the money be put back into the club?
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38459.msg1034640#msg1034640 date=1263556362]
Fair enough. I just hope it's down to the 2 years of non stop footy rather than any serious problems, as he never had this many injuries at Atletico. Time will tell.
[/quote]I voiced the same concerns in summer. We are reliant on HOPING he and Gerrard stay fit. A football team can't succeed like that. His pace and power game is so dependant on him working perfectly, that coupled with the shocking treatment he recieves week in week out spell long term disaster to me. Knee, then groin, then ankle now knee again. Players with persistent injuries don't just stop getting them, and we can't afford to have our best player missing half a season every year. So yeah sad but I'd definately let him go.
[/quote]
I know it's a bad state of affairs that we're so reliant on them but that applies to other top teams in the league too. United wouldn't be half the team without Rooney and Giggs (for a spell this season he was excellent). Same goes for Arsenal who aren't the same team without Cesc and RVP etc.
Fair play to you to be able to say you'd sell Torres. My heart would never let me feel it and my head wouldn't want let me think it either. 80million is a fantastic coin for him but would we even see the money be put back into the club?
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the_khl
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Remove Rooney from the current United-team and they'll be in a right mess.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38459.msg1034655#msg1034655 date=1263557216]
Which all neatly explains why you were so delighted with Aquilani replacing Alonso this summer, given that he averaged 16 appearances a season for the last three years at Roma.
[/quote]True, but taking a 5m punt on a player is not the same as holding onto a player worth 15 times that much. For the record, if someone were to offer 80m for Aquilani I'd take that too.
Which all neatly explains why you were so delighted with Aquilani replacing Alonso this summer, given that he averaged 16 appearances a season for the last three years at Roma.
[/quote]True, but taking a 5m punt on a player is not the same as holding onto a player worth 15 times that much. For the record, if someone were to offer 80m for Aquilani I'd take that too.
Ah, the old "£5m downpayment" bollocks.
VIRTUALLY ALL FUCKING TRANSFERS ARE SPREAD OUT ACROSS A PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS WAY.
That is all.
And Aquilani will be sold for a 50% loss within 18 months.
VIRTUALLY ALL FUCKING TRANSFERS ARE SPREAD OUT ACROSS A PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS WAY.
That is all.
And Aquilani will be sold for a 50% loss within 18 months.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38459.msg1034666#msg1034666 date=1263557935]
Ah, the old "£5m downpayment" bollocks.
VIRTUALLY ALL FUCKING TRANSFERS ARE SPREAD OUT ACROSS A PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS WAY.
That is all.
And Aquilani will be sold for a 50% loss within 18 months.
[/quote]Christ you're down on a player who's only played a handful of games so far. He may well be sold for a loss, he may turn out to be another shit buy, but he isn't yet. And it doesn't really have a lot to do with Torres injury situation.
Ah, the old "£5m downpayment" bollocks.
VIRTUALLY ALL FUCKING TRANSFERS ARE SPREAD OUT ACROSS A PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS WAY.
That is all.
And Aquilani will be sold for a 50% loss within 18 months.
[/quote]Christ you're down on a player who's only played a handful of games so far. He may well be sold for a loss, he may turn out to be another shit buy, but he isn't yet. And it doesn't really have a lot to do with Torres injury situation.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
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the_khl
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]
He's playing and scoring nearly every week, keeping Benzema on the bench in the process
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]
He's playing and scoring nearly every week, keeping Benzema on the bench in the process
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034675#msg1034675 date=1263558470]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[/quote]Mate!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[/quote]Mate!
T
the_khl
Guest
From Rebel's post about him a while back;
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According to Sport article Real offered him to us in the Alonso deal and Benitez liked the idea but we needed the cash and there was something about a permit (but he actually has a European passport so i dont know how true this is)
The article says he will be made available in January as Florentino Perez doesn't consider him an important player (despite scoring 22 goals in 34 games last season, 32 in 74 overall) he is behind the Galatico's in the pecking order. His likely destination is still England according to the report and he is valued in the 15 million euro range.
So I guess we will see if Puslow is serious about making money available for Benitez because we could do with another striker.
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According to Sport article Real offered him to us in the Alonso deal and Benitez liked the idea but we needed the cash and there was something about a permit (but he actually has a European passport so i dont know how true this is)
The article says he will be made available in January as Florentino Perez doesn't consider him an important player (despite scoring 22 goals in 34 games last season, 32 in 74 overall) he is behind the Galatico's in the pecking order. His likely destination is still England according to the report and he is valued in the 15 million euro range.
So I guess we will see if Puslow is serious about making money available for Benitez because we could do with another striker.
***
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the_khl
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034679#msg1034679 date=1263558571]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034675#msg1034675 date=1263558470]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[/quote]Mate!
[/quote]
There will be a surplus of talent in Real come Summer.
If they are to bring in the likes of Ribery and Pato e.g. players like Higuain will be fringe-esque.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034675#msg1034675 date=1263558470]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[/quote]Mate!
[/quote]
There will be a surplus of talent in Real come Summer.
If they are to bring in the likes of Ribery and Pato e.g. players like Higuain will be fringe-esque.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034680#msg1034680 date=1263558624]
From Rebel's post about him a while back;
***
According to Sport article Real offered him to us in the Alonso deal and Benitez liked the idea but we needed the cash and there was something about a permit (but he actually has a European passport so i dont know how true this is)
The article says he will be made available in January as Florentino Perez doesn't consider him an important player (despite scoring 22 goals in 34 games last season, 32 in 74 overall) he is behind the Galatico's in the pecking order. His likely destination is still England according to the report and he is valued in the 15 million euro range.
So I guess we will see if Puslow is serious about making money available for Benitez because we could do with another striker.
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[/quote]Rebel?!?? Mate!
From Rebel's post about him a while back;
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According to Sport article Real offered him to us in the Alonso deal and Benitez liked the idea but we needed the cash and there was something about a permit (but he actually has a European passport so i dont know how true this is)
The article says he will be made available in January as Florentino Perez doesn't consider him an important player (despite scoring 22 goals in 34 games last season, 32 in 74 overall) he is behind the Galatico's in the pecking order. His likely destination is still England according to the report and he is valued in the 15 million euro range.
So I guess we will see if Puslow is serious about making money available for Benitez because we could do with another striker.
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[/quote]Rebel?!?? Mate!
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034682#msg1034682 date=1263558728]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034679#msg1034679 date=1263558571]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034675#msg1034675 date=1263558470]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[/quote]Mate!
[/quote]
There will be a surplus of talent in Real come Summer.
If they are to bring in the likes of Ribery and Pato e.g. players like Higuain will be fringe-esque.
[/quote]Mate!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034679#msg1034679 date=1263558571]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034675#msg1034675 date=1263558470]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034674#msg1034674 date=1263558428]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034670#msg1034670 date=1263558262]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38459.msg1034664#msg1034664 date=1263557825]
10m for Higuain lollllll
[/quote]
STOP THE LOLING!
First, isn't his contract running down?
And second with the current ammount of firepower in Real and the likes of Ribery perhaps coming in too wouldn't he then be tempted to go elsewhere in search for more minutes?
Having Masher and Maxi convincing him during the WC we should be in the mix.
[/quote]Mate! Just.... Mate!!!
[/quote]
I know he's on fire but less than a month or go or so he were actually ryumoured to be on his way.
You'll see.
[/quote]Mate!
[/quote]
There will be a surplus of talent in Real come Summer.
If they are to bring in the likes of Ribery and Pato e.g. players like Higuain will be fringe-esque.
[/quote]Mate!
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the_khl
Guest
I'm Oncy's mate.
Hurray!
Hurray!
Higuain is fantastic and I remember reading that he is preferred by Pelligrini to Benzema who Perez likes (well, he did spend 40M on him). We're not going to get him for 10M. Not now.
That said, I don't think we'd be able to convince Valencia to sell their entire forward line either.
That said, I don't think we'd be able to convince Valencia to sell their entire forward line either.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38459.msg1034680#msg1034680 date=1263558624]
From Rebel's post about him a while back;
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According to Sport article Real offered him to us in the Alonso deal and Benitez liked the idea but we needed the cash and there was something about a permit (but he actually has a European passport so i dont know how true this is)
The article says he will be made available in January as Florentino Perez doesn't consider him an important player (despite scoring 22 goals in 34 games last season, 32 in 74 overall) he is behind the Galatico's in the pecking order. His likely destination is still England according to the report and he is valued in the 15 million euro range.
So I guess we will see if Puslow is serious about making money available for Benitez because we could do with another striker.
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I don't know who sport article are, but they're fucking clowns. Réal turned down a €25 million bid from Juvé in the summer, and now he's on an even bigger flyer this season. I would be gobsmacked if he cost any less than £20 Million, and personally I think his value lies somewhere between £25M and £30M.
From Rebel's post about him a while back;
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According to Sport article Real offered him to us in the Alonso deal and Benitez liked the idea but we needed the cash and there was something about a permit (but he actually has a European passport so i dont know how true this is)
The article says he will be made available in January as Florentino Perez doesn't consider him an important player (despite scoring 22 goals in 34 games last season, 32 in 74 overall) he is behind the Galatico's in the pecking order. His likely destination is still England according to the report and he is valued in the 15 million euro range.
So I guess we will see if Puslow is serious about making money available for Benitez because we could do with another striker.
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[/quote]
I don't know who sport article are, but they're fucking clowns. Réal turned down a €25 million bid from Juvé in the summer, and now he's on an even bigger flyer this season. I would be gobsmacked if he cost any less than £20 Million, and personally I think his value lies somewhere between £25M and £30M.
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