Xabi Alonso Tribute Thread
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918583#msg918583 date=1249462399]
Well, to be honest I think it started off as people just stating that he was aggrieved at the way he was prostituted around Europe last season [/quote]
If you genuinely had confidence in this tiresome myth you would have no need to resort to such clumsily loaded terms as 'prostituted'. Unless you use the term whenever any player is available for transfer. Do you?
Well, to be honest I think it started off as people just stating that he was aggrieved at the way he was prostituted around Europe last season [/quote]
If you genuinely had confidence in this tiresome myth you would have no need to resort to such clumsily loaded terms as 'prostituted'. Unless you use the term whenever any player is available for transfer. Do you?
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35060.msg918595#msg918595 date=1249463612]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=35060.msg918591#msg918591 date=1249463206]
Even Mancs are sending texts about it, they know how important he was to us.
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Really? The match at OT last season must have REALLY depressed them then.
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Most Mancs I know have spent the last few years telling me how Carrick is the better player.. Typical Manc stuff, when it suits them.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=35060.msg918591#msg918591 date=1249463206]
Even Mancs are sending texts about it, they know how important he was to us.
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Really? The match at OT last season must have REALLY depressed them then.
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Most Mancs I know have spent the last few years telling me how Carrick is the better player.. Typical Manc stuff, when it suits them.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
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Remember that while you're dismissing most of those players we're rumoured to be signing. And making wild claims about the manager, the club in general and, well, anyone except Alonso.
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Remember that while you're dismissing most of those players we're rumoured to be signing. And making wild claims about the manager, the club in general and, well, anyone except Alonso.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35060.msg918602#msg918602 date=1249463990]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
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Remember that while you're dismissing most of those players we're rumoured to be signing.
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That's allowed, because they're not actually our players *yet*. And dimissing isn't as bad as aggressive abuse.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Remember that while you're dismissing most of those players we're rumoured to be signing.
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That's allowed, because they're not actually our players *yet*. And dimissing isn't as bad as aggressive abuse.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
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Give it a few months Anita and he'll be remembered fondly of most on here I'm sure.
He's been a good servant a likeable fella and a very very good player for us.
I like him still and I want to wish him the best.
*He'll miss out on the Premiership-trophy this coming Season but hey, you can't have it all...
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Give it a few months Anita and he'll be remembered fondly of most on here I'm sure.
He's been a good servant a likeable fella and a very very good player for us.
I like him still and I want to wish him the best.
*He'll miss out on the Premiership-trophy this coming Season but hey, you can't have it all...
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918604#msg918604 date=1249464101]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35060.msg918602#msg918602 date=1249463990]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Remember that while you're dismissing most of those players we're rumoured to be signing.
[/quote]
That's allowed, because they're not actually our players *yet*. And dimissing isn't as bad as aggressive abuse.
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That answers the eagerness to believe the worst in the manager of this club. hang on, no, it doesn't. Which is why you ignored it. Hypocrite.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35060.msg918602#msg918602 date=1249463990]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Remember that while you're dismissing most of those players we're rumoured to be signing.
[/quote]
That's allowed, because they're not actually our players *yet*. And dimissing isn't as bad as aggressive abuse.
[/quote]
That answers the eagerness to believe the worst in the manager of this club. hang on, no, it doesn't. Which is why you ignored it. Hypocrite.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=35060.msg918605#msg918605 date=1249464125]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Give it a few months Anita and he'll be remembered fondly of most on here I'm sure.
He's been a good servant a likeable fella and a very very good player for us.
I like him still and I want to wish him the best.
*He'll miss out on the Premiership-trophy this coming Season but hey, you can't have it all...
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No, no - no club is bigger than one player. It's the Anita Way.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Give it a few months Anita and he'll be remembered fondly of most on here I'm sure.
He's been a good servant a likeable fella and a very very good player for us.
I like him still and I want to wish him the best.
*He'll miss out on the Premiership-trophy this coming Season but hey, you can't have it all...
[/quote]
No, no - no club is bigger than one player. It's the Anita Way.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
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The 'best fans in the world' realize that there isnt one player better than Xabi, and that we're going to be held to ransom in bringing that player to Anfield.
And that we're facing the very real possibility of our title challenge end before the season starts.
Cut the 'best fans' some slack,Neets.
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
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The 'best fans in the world' realize that there isnt one player better than Xabi, and that we're going to be held to ransom in bringing that player to Anfield.
And that we're facing the very real possibility of our title challenge end before the season starts.
Cut the 'best fans' some slack,Neets.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35060.msg918587#msg918587 date=1249462830]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918544#msg918544 date=1249458935]
It's good that there is a tribute thread even if it is filled with lots of people not wishing to pay any tribute.
His signing ushered in a new era and after a few years of Biscan (bless him), Diao and the likes, it was a welcome relief to see a proper footballer being brought into the club. He's given five years of quality service during which he's been one of the lynchpins of the side winning the CL and the FA Cup and leaves us with a 20M profit.
I am gutted that he's leaving as I rate him more than many seem to, but I guess we just have to look onwards and upwards. Hopefully the team will evolve and be stronger for it.
If he were going to another team, I'd wish him well, but I badly want Real to fail... so... go Barca.
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Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. We're losing a quite brilliant midfielder, and I think this'll be a case of a lot of people only realising what we had when he's gone.
[/quote]What 'lot of people'? Who (besides me) has said anything other than he's an amazing player? Who has suggested its a good thing he's gone? Who wanted him to go? Who thinks we'll be strengthened by his leaving?
The amount this lad has been used as leverage in 'I told you so' posts is fucking unbelievable.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918544#msg918544 date=1249458935]
It's good that there is a tribute thread even if it is filled with lots of people not wishing to pay any tribute.
His signing ushered in a new era and after a few years of Biscan (bless him), Diao and the likes, it was a welcome relief to see a proper footballer being brought into the club. He's given five years of quality service during which he's been one of the lynchpins of the side winning the CL and the FA Cup and leaves us with a 20M profit.
I am gutted that he's leaving as I rate him more than many seem to, but I guess we just have to look onwards and upwards. Hopefully the team will evolve and be stronger for it.
If he were going to another team, I'd wish him well, but I badly want Real to fail... so... go Barca.
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Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. We're losing a quite brilliant midfielder, and I think this'll be a case of a lot of people only realising what we had when he's gone.
[/quote]What 'lot of people'? Who (besides me) has said anything other than he's an amazing player? Who has suggested its a good thing he's gone? Who wanted him to go? Who thinks we'll be strengthened by his leaving?
The amount this lad has been used as leverage in 'I told you so' posts is fucking unbelievable.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35060.msg918609#msg918609 date=1249464339]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=35060.msg918605#msg918605 date=1249464125]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Give it a few months Anita and he'll be remembered fondly of most on here I'm sure.
He's been a good servant a likeable fella and a very very good player for us.
I like him still and I want to wish him the best.
*He'll miss out on the Premiership-trophy this coming Season but hey, you can't have it all...
[/quote]
No, no - no club is bigger than one player. It's the Anita Way.
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Oh pipe down, I think you're so quick to want to play the self rightious smart arse sometimes you don't even bother to read what people post, and just respond with whatever's gonna give you the upper hand.
I'll leave you to it.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=35060.msg918605#msg918605 date=1249464125]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918598#msg918598 date=1249463872]
It is a little disappointing that a tribute thread has to be litered with so much abuse for the player.
'Best fans in the World' an' all that.
[/quote]
Give it a few months Anita and he'll be remembered fondly of most on here I'm sure.
He's been a good servant a likeable fella and a very very good player for us.
I like him still and I want to wish him the best.
*He'll miss out on the Premiership-trophy this coming Season but hey, you can't have it all...
[/quote]
No, no - no club is bigger than one player. It's the Anita Way.
[/quote]
Oh pipe down, I think you're so quick to want to play the self rightious smart arse sometimes you don't even bother to read what people post, and just respond with whatever's gonna give you the upper hand.
I'll leave you to it.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918623#msg918623 date=1249465253]
Oh pipe down, I think you're so quick to want to play the self rightious smart arse sometimes you don't even bother to read what people post, and just respond with whatever's gonna give you the upper hand.
I'll leave you to it.
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Pathetic (non) response.
Oh pipe down, I think you're so quick to want to play the self rightious smart arse sometimes you don't even bother to read what people post, and just respond with whatever's gonna give you the upper hand.
I'll leave you to it.
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Pathetic (non) response.
Gutted. Absolutely fucking gutted. All the best Xabi, you are a class act on and off the pitch and you will be greatly missed. i will follow your career with great interest.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35060.msg918626#msg918626 date=1249466212]
I like Xabi and he has been part of some very special moments for LFC over the last 5 seasons BUT I think that he will be missed less than some are suggesting. Quite simply, he is replaceable.
Good luck Xabi.
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Is right.
Xabi, for all his qualities, lacks a very important attribute when looked at from a Premiership point of view.
Pace.
To often for my liking we looked cumbersome in midfield over the past Seasons and has often had to accept a bore draw at home soil because of the blatant lack of pace in our game. This of course is not Alonso's fault alone but with more pace in midfield we'd actually be able to mount more pressure on teams parking the bus, closing opponents down.
He has added much class to our game and when at his best he could orchestra the midfield perfectly. On the other hand we've lacked a bit of pace and maybe even a bit of bite at times as well with Alonso playing.
He didn't score enough either albeit those he did bag was often sheer beauties.
We'll miss him but he's certainly no irreplaceable. No one is.
I like Xabi and he has been part of some very special moments for LFC over the last 5 seasons BUT I think that he will be missed less than some are suggesting. Quite simply, he is replaceable.
Good luck Xabi.
[/quote]
Is right.
Xabi, for all his qualities, lacks a very important attribute when looked at from a Premiership point of view.
Pace.
To often for my liking we looked cumbersome in midfield over the past Seasons and has often had to accept a bore draw at home soil because of the blatant lack of pace in our game. This of course is not Alonso's fault alone but with more pace in midfield we'd actually be able to mount more pressure on teams parking the bus, closing opponents down.
He has added much class to our game and when at his best he could orchestra the midfield perfectly. On the other hand we've lacked a bit of pace and maybe even a bit of bite at times as well with Alonso playing.
He didn't score enough either albeit those he did bag was often sheer beauties.
We'll miss him but he's certainly no irreplaceable. No one is.
It would've been nice if Alonso had more pace, but it's a bit ridiculous to attribute the sides sluggishness and lack of dyanmism to the lack of pace of it's deep-lying playmaker.
We need pace out wide and up front and have done for years. In the middle Masher can cover a lot of ground as can Gerrard.
We need pace out wide and up front and have done for years. In the middle Masher can cover a lot of ground as can Gerrard.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35060.msg918628#msg918628 date=1249466675]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918623#msg918623 date=1249465253]
Oh pipe down, I think you're so quick to want to play the self rightious smart arse sometimes you don't even bother to read what people post, and just respond with whatever's gonna give you the upper hand.
I'll leave you to it.
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Pathetic (non) response.
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Because I'm not particularly bothered about engaging in an argument with you to try to justify my stance. I've done it a million times already, you just chose to be selective with what you sensationalise for the sake of the wittiest response. Like I said you don't seem to be to concerned with that the post says or the context it's intended it, just about getting your little 'entertaining' response in.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=35060.msg918623#msg918623 date=1249465253]
Oh pipe down, I think you're so quick to want to play the self rightious smart arse sometimes you don't even bother to read what people post, and just respond with whatever's gonna give you the upper hand.
I'll leave you to it.
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Pathetic (non) response.
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Because I'm not particularly bothered about engaging in an argument with you to try to justify my stance. I've done it a million times already, you just chose to be selective with what you sensationalise for the sake of the wittiest response. Like I said you don't seem to be to concerned with that the post says or the context it's intended it, just about getting your little 'entertaining' response in.
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the_khl
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918631#msg918631 date=1249466912]
It would've been nice if Alonso had more pace, but it's a bit ridiculous to attribute the sides sluggishness and lack of dyanmism to the lack of pace of it's deep-lying playmaker.
We need pace out wide and up front and have done for years. In the middle Masher can cover a lot of ground as can Gerrard.
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That's more or less my issue with Alonso in our line-up if any at all. He's a deep-lying playmaker who's been played alongside a deep-lying defensive terrier in Masher.
Evidently this kind of deep-lying mifield pairing, for all it's otherwise great attributes, will be weakened when facing teams parking the bus.
Our biggest problem last year was our failure to break teams down at Anfield. To many times did we watch a slow-moving midfield without the tools to open stubborn defenses.
The need for pacey wingers are not as vital as the need for pacey central midfielders when playing teams without much attacking-intend.
In this department we can do better than Alonso I'm sure. The fact that Masher and Alonso scored around two goals between them last Season tells it's own story really.
It would've been nice if Alonso had more pace, but it's a bit ridiculous to attribute the sides sluggishness and lack of dyanmism to the lack of pace of it's deep-lying playmaker.
We need pace out wide and up front and have done for years. In the middle Masher can cover a lot of ground as can Gerrard.
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That's more or less my issue with Alonso in our line-up if any at all. He's a deep-lying playmaker who's been played alongside a deep-lying defensive terrier in Masher.
Evidently this kind of deep-lying mifield pairing, for all it's otherwise great attributes, will be weakened when facing teams parking the bus.
Our biggest problem last year was our failure to break teams down at Anfield. To many times did we watch a slow-moving midfield without the tools to open stubborn defenses.
The need for pacey wingers are not as vital as the need for pacey central midfielders when playing teams without much attacking-intend.
In this department we can do better than Alonso I'm sure. The fact that Masher and Alonso scored around two goals between them last Season tells it's own story really.
Masher doesn't really hold a deep position in midfield - he roams. As for having two holding midfielders, that's down to the formation we play. There is no point saying we should have pacey central midfielders with attacking intent because then we'd no longer be playing a 4-2-3-1, it'd be more of a 4-3-3 and that's another issue altogether.
How many teams have pacey central midfielders who score goals aplenty? We are very lucky to have the ultimate player in that mould, but really they are a very rare breed and I can't think of very many others at all.
We need more pacey attackers who can expose defenders and create opportunities for us - there are only so many third man runs and bursts from midfield we can accomodate and it still often relies on opportunities being created elsewhere on the park.
We either get more pace and attacking quality in out wide and up front or we change our formation and get a more attacking midfielder to play alongside Gerrard rather than Masher. In my opinion there is little to be gained from expecting a holding midfielder who is being asked to play a deep holding midfield role to contribute with an extra goal or two.
How many teams have pacey central midfielders who score goals aplenty? We are very lucky to have the ultimate player in that mould, but really they are a very rare breed and I can't think of very many others at all.
We need more pacey attackers who can expose defenders and create opportunities for us - there are only so many third man runs and bursts from midfield we can accomodate and it still often relies on opportunities being created elsewhere on the park.
We either get more pace and attacking quality in out wide and up front or we change our formation and get a more attacking midfielder to play alongside Gerrard rather than Masher. In my opinion there is little to be gained from expecting a holding midfielder who is being asked to play a deep holding midfield role to contribute with an extra goal or two.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35060.msg918619#msg918619 date=1249465073]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35060.msg918587#msg918587 date=1249462830]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918544#msg918544 date=1249458935]
It's good that there is a tribute thread even if it is filled with lots of people not wishing to pay any tribute.
His signing ushered in a new era and after a few years of Biscan (bless him), Diao and the likes, it was a welcome relief to see a proper footballer being brought into the club. He's given five years of quality service during which he's been one of the lynchpins of the side winning the CL and the FA Cup and leaves us with a 20M profit.
I am gutted that he's leaving as I rate him more than many seem to, but I guess we just have to look onwards and upwards. Hopefully the team will evolve and be stronger for it.
If he were going to another team, I'd wish him well, but I badly want Real to fail... so... go Barca.
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Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. We're losing a quite brilliant midfielder, and I think this'll be a case of a lot of people only realising what we had when he's gone.
[/quote]What 'lot of people'? Who (besides me) has said anything other than he's an amazing player? Who has suggested its a good thing he's gone? Who wanted him to go? Who thinks we'll be strengthened by his leaving?
The amount this lad has been used as leverage in 'I told you so' posts is fucking unbelievable.
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You're reading an awful lot into something that's not there Oncy. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35060.msg918587#msg918587 date=1249462830]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918544#msg918544 date=1249458935]
It's good that there is a tribute thread even if it is filled with lots of people not wishing to pay any tribute.
His signing ushered in a new era and after a few years of Biscan (bless him), Diao and the likes, it was a welcome relief to see a proper footballer being brought into the club. He's given five years of quality service during which he's been one of the lynchpins of the side winning the CL and the FA Cup and leaves us with a 20M profit.
I am gutted that he's leaving as I rate him more than many seem to, but I guess we just have to look onwards and upwards. Hopefully the team will evolve and be stronger for it.
If he were going to another team, I'd wish him well, but I badly want Real to fail... so... go Barca.
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Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. We're losing a quite brilliant midfielder, and I think this'll be a case of a lot of people only realising what we had when he's gone.
[/quote]What 'lot of people'? Who (besides me) has said anything other than he's an amazing player? Who has suggested its a good thing he's gone? Who wanted him to go? Who thinks we'll be strengthened by his leaving?
The amount this lad has been used as leverage in 'I told you so' posts is fucking unbelievable.
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You're reading an awful lot into something that's not there Oncy. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35060.msg918642#msg918642 date=1249469187]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35060.msg918619#msg918619 date=1249465073]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35060.msg918587#msg918587 date=1249462830]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918544#msg918544 date=1249458935]
It's good that there is a tribute thread even if it is filled with lots of people not wishing to pay any tribute.
His signing ushered in a new era and after a few years of Biscan (bless him), Diao and the likes, it was a welcome relief to see a proper footballer being brought into the club. He's given five years of quality service during which he's been one of the lynchpins of the side winning the CL and the FA Cup and leaves us with a 20M profit.
I am gutted that he's leaving as I rate him more than many seem to, but I guess we just have to look onwards and upwards. Hopefully the team will evolve and be stronger for it.
If he were going to another team, I'd wish him well, but I badly want Real to fail... so... go Barca.
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Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. We're losing a quite brilliant midfielder, and I think this'll be a case of a lot of people only realising what we had when he's gone.
[/quote]What 'lot of people'? Who (besides me) has said anything other than he's an amazing player? Who has suggested its a good thing he's gone? Who wanted him to go? Who thinks we'll be strengthened by his leaving?
The amount this lad has been used as leverage in 'I told you so' posts is fucking unbelievable.
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You're reading an awful lot into something that's not there Oncy. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular.
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I just wondered who you meant by 'A lot'?
Doesnt matter like just wondered is all.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35060.msg918619#msg918619 date=1249465073]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35060.msg918587#msg918587 date=1249462830]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918544#msg918544 date=1249458935]
It's good that there is a tribute thread even if it is filled with lots of people not wishing to pay any tribute.
His signing ushered in a new era and after a few years of Biscan (bless him), Diao and the likes, it was a welcome relief to see a proper footballer being brought into the club. He's given five years of quality service during which he's been one of the lynchpins of the side winning the CL and the FA Cup and leaves us with a 20M profit.
I am gutted that he's leaving as I rate him more than many seem to, but I guess we just have to look onwards and upwards. Hopefully the team will evolve and be stronger for it.
If he were going to another team, I'd wish him well, but I badly want Real to fail... so... go Barca.
[/quote]
Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. We're losing a quite brilliant midfielder, and I think this'll be a case of a lot of people only realising what we had when he's gone.
[/quote]What 'lot of people'? Who (besides me) has said anything other than he's an amazing player? Who has suggested its a good thing he's gone? Who wanted him to go? Who thinks we'll be strengthened by his leaving?
The amount this lad has been used as leverage in 'I told you so' posts is fucking unbelievable.
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You're reading an awful lot into something that's not there Oncy. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular.
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I just wondered who you meant by 'A lot'?
Doesnt matter like just wondered is all.
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the_khl
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=35060.msg918640#msg918640 date=1249468014]
Masher doesn't really hold a deep position in midfield - he roams. As for having two holding midfielders, that's down to the formation we play. There is no point saying we should have pacey central midfielders with attacking intent because then we'd no longer be playing a 4-2-3-1, it'd be more of a 4-3-3 and that's another issue altogether.
How many teams have pacey central midfielders who score goals aplenty? We are very lucky to have the ultimate player in that mould, but really they are a very rare breed and I can't think of very many others at all.
We need more pacey attackers who can expose defenders and create opportunities for us - there are only so many third man runs and bursts from midfield we can accomodate and it still often relies on opportunities being created elsewhere on the park.
We either get more pace and attacking quality in out wide and up front or we change our formation and get a more attacking midfielder to play alongside Gerrard rather than Masher. In my opinion there is little to be gained from expecting a holding midfielder who is being asked to play a deep holding midfield role to contribute with an extra goal or two.
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I'm not advocating that a new midfielder should be pacey in the Gerrard-mould nor that he'd score anywhere near his ammounts of goals. I'm merely pointing out that Alonso's blatant lack of pace has sometimes been of great frustration to watch and has probably not done our team any favours against stubborn oppositions as we are overall a not so pacey team.
Your point with regards to the two holding midfielders in our current formation is valid but still we'd be better of in some games with a midfielder capable of turning a man, moving the ball forward quickly compared to the somewhat stationary Alonso.
Alonso is a great player and he'll probably be perfect for Real with all that pace surrounding him but in our team, which has often lacked pace, he has at times been part of the cause rather than the cure.
Alonso is probably the best in the world at what he does spreading out play from a central position. He need the right players around him and in Real he'll have that. I'm just not sure he's irreplaceable at all when you look at our team and the way we like to play.
The likes of Sneijder, Diego, Essien, Cesc and maybe even darkhorses like Van der Vaart and Modric would perhaps fit our game even better. Alonso is a better footballer than most of that lot but I'd be inclined to think some of them would actually make us more potent as a team.
Masher doesn't really hold a deep position in midfield - he roams. As for having two holding midfielders, that's down to the formation we play. There is no point saying we should have pacey central midfielders with attacking intent because then we'd no longer be playing a 4-2-3-1, it'd be more of a 4-3-3 and that's another issue altogether.
How many teams have pacey central midfielders who score goals aplenty? We are very lucky to have the ultimate player in that mould, but really they are a very rare breed and I can't think of very many others at all.
We need more pacey attackers who can expose defenders and create opportunities for us - there are only so many third man runs and bursts from midfield we can accomodate and it still often relies on opportunities being created elsewhere on the park.
We either get more pace and attacking quality in out wide and up front or we change our formation and get a more attacking midfielder to play alongside Gerrard rather than Masher. In my opinion there is little to be gained from expecting a holding midfielder who is being asked to play a deep holding midfield role to contribute with an extra goal or two.
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I'm not advocating that a new midfielder should be pacey in the Gerrard-mould nor that he'd score anywhere near his ammounts of goals. I'm merely pointing out that Alonso's blatant lack of pace has sometimes been of great frustration to watch and has probably not done our team any favours against stubborn oppositions as we are overall a not so pacey team.
Your point with regards to the two holding midfielders in our current formation is valid but still we'd be better of in some games with a midfielder capable of turning a man, moving the ball forward quickly compared to the somewhat stationary Alonso.
Alonso is a great player and he'll probably be perfect for Real with all that pace surrounding him but in our team, which has often lacked pace, he has at times been part of the cause rather than the cure.
Alonso is probably the best in the world at what he does spreading out play from a central position. He need the right players around him and in Real he'll have that. I'm just not sure he's irreplaceable at all when you look at our team and the way we like to play.
The likes of Sneijder, Diego, Essien, Cesc and maybe even darkhorses like Van der Vaart and Modric would perhaps fit our game even better. Alonso is a better footballer than most of that lot but I'd be inclined to think some of them would actually make us more potent as a team.
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the_khl
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Out of curiosity does anyone know the number of assists Alonso made last Season?
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Squiggles
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I agree with KHL that we never moulded a team around Xabi which could've seen him shine even more, but that doesn't detract from the fact he's immensely difficult to replace, and I certainly don't think Modric, Diego would suit us at all.
His lack of goals/assists is also immaterial because he usually starts the move which leads to either. He plays to deep for his stats to be fantastic.
His lack of goals/assists is also immaterial because he usually starts the move which leads to either. He plays to deep for his stats to be fantastic.
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