WWIII Return of the Ruskie

[rurikbird]

I vaguely remember a reference in an article somewhere to Shoigu's apparently being (or having been) one of the more popular figures in government. Could this be Putin not only taking his frustration out on Shoigu but also moving against a (however distantly) potential threat?

No, Shoigu was never a threat to Putin as he comes from the Tuvan ethnic minority - someone with the “asian” face cannot possibly be seen as a credible leader in a deeply racist society like Russia. I’ve read that it was precisely why Shoigu was chosen to be the Minister of Defense. He was also well-liked because he didn’t ruffle any feathers; allowed substandard equipment to be supplied to the army and all kinds of corruption schemes to flourish. Now that they actually have to use all that equipment to fight, all of these years of Potemkin village building came to the fore; that’s probably the explanation for the “heart attack.”

 

[rurikbird]

Seriously, what’s wrong with that country?

 

[rurikbird]

Savage.

 

[737Max]

Love a good model

 

[The Nomad]

Love a good jigsaw

It's a model.. not a jigsaw. I always ended up sticking my fingers together with that bastard glue.

 

[737Max]

It's a model.. not a jigsaw. I always ended up sticking my fingers together with that bastard glue.

These were similar to the Airfix ones I assume?

 

[The Nomad]

Putin has gone big...

Banned Truss, Patel and Boris from Russia.

 

[737Max]

Putin has gone big...

Banned Truss, Patel and Boris from Russia.

I'm sure Tourism Russia will be devastated

 

[refugee]

Putin has gone big...

Banned Truss, Patel and Boris from Russia.

I now know where I'm going on holiday

 

[rurikbird]

Not sure Gazprom will be sponsoring UEFA and certain football clubs for much longer…

 

[tomasjj]

fuckin tragedy, killing your family like that

 

[Athens]

fuckin tragedy, killing your family like that

Well, that being Russia and all I take the quote with a pinch of salt... did he kill his family and then commit suicide or, did he "kill his family and then commit suicide"

 

[Woland]

That's the third gazprom mass suicide in the past few weeks. Seems legit

 

[Athens]

There must be a culture of suicide. They probably put their heads in the ovens, then shoot themselves as it's the wrong type of gas.

 

[737Max]

That's the third gazprom mass suicide in the past few weeks. Seems legit

I've not seen this many suicides in an organisation since France Telecom in the 2000's. About 20 people killed themselves and another 10 or more attempted to

 

[tomasjj]

That's the third gazprom mass suicide in the past few weeks. Seems legit

I saw one about one man in the end of feb. Are there more?

 

[The Nomad]

Well, that being Russia and all I take the quote with a pinch of salt... did he kill his family and then commit suicide or, did he "kill his family and then commit suicide"

This.

 

[Shay_K]

Putin has gone big...

Banned Truss, Patel and Boris from Russia.

We don't support Russia or Putin but if the Irish Gov adopt a similar policy ...🙂

 

[rurikbird]

Fucking hell, another one... This really looks like a giant worldwide mafia cutting loose ends.

 

[Athens]

So, what's happening then? Why are all these guys (and their families) getting killed? Is Putin having them purged for a particular reason?

 

[Shay_K]

So, what's happening then? Why are all these guys (and their families) getting killed? Is Putin having them purged for a particular reason?

It's difficult to imagine that anyone other than the Kremlim mafia are behind these killings, they don't want any western influence to affect their internal Russian business/politics.

 

[The Nomad]

Chemical plant near Moscow and their design centre for military tech have both gone up in flames today.

Espionage or False Flag? One way or another, Putin is going to be fuming at either NATO or Ukraine tonight.

 

[rurikbird]

I heard that the Gazprombank guy was killed after refusing to hand over a majority share in some company to some racketeers – if true, that's basically 1990's style mafia wars over property and "territory" (and probably a sign of the decline of central authority). But no idea why families are being killed too; that seems like a different pattern and at this point I have not seen a plausible explanation – it's not even clear which of these were actually murder-suicides and which were staged to look like one. All we know is that something is happening.

 

[rurikbird]

OK, so apparently Shoigu isn't dead. Lots of speculation around Twitter about Putin clutching the table and a twitchy leg. Also, why a comically short table this time; don't they have regular sizes in Putin's lair?

 

[rurikbird]

Chemical plant near Moscow and their design centre for military tech have both gone up in flames today.

Espionage or False Flag? One way or another, Putin is going to be fuming at either NATO or Ukraine tonight.

Definitely doesn't feel like a false flag...

 

[The Nomad]

OK, so apparently Shoigu isn't dead. Lots of speculation around Twitter about Putin clutching the table and a twitchy leg. Also, why a comically short table this time; don't they have regular sizes in Putin's lair?

Some speculation that it's a deep fake too.

 

[Athens]

There are going to be some interesting books written about this.

Speaking of books, anyone any recommendations on the subject? @rurikbird ?

 

[Judge Jules]

Definitely doesn't feel like a false flag...

Any chance it could still be an inside job, either by Ukrainians/Ukrainian sympathisers within the Russian defence establishment or by some within that establishment wanting rid of Putin?

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Shoigu doesn’t move once in that entire clip. His wife and kid are probably already dead too.

 

[rurikbird]

Idiocy continuing to deepen in Russia. From the police report: “the arrested persons were found to be holding invisible signs with anti-government slogans.”