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WWIII Return of the Ruskie

Like the one about the laptop that even Hunter now admits was his ?

We couldn't have possibly known that was important since he wasnt running for election
 
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If only there had been some way to determine that prior to the election. Like a theory, some sort of theory that makes predictions which come true, like you have in science.

Only your chosen scientist is a bigot sociopath who thinks the US should just pretend they're China and nuke Russia. He's probably joking though. Like when he called for more research into injecting bleach to combat covid, for shits and giggles or something.
 
Only your chosen scientist is a bigot sociopath who thinks the US should just pretend they're China and nuke Russia. He's probably joking though. Like when he called for more research into injecting bleach to combat covid, for shits and giggles or something.

Yes, I'm sure the dead ukranians and afghanis and palestinians will rest easy in their graves, blessed in the knowledge that the new us president will no longer hurt anyone's feelings.
 
OK, the latest news from the Russian propaganda factory is that Ukraine "biolabs" are responsible for COVID and Putin is bombing the cities simply because he's trying the save humanity. A pretty neat way to synthesize several conspiracy theories into one – and this will make the Chinese happy too.
 
Yes, I'm sure the dead ukranians and afghanis and palestinians will rest easy in their graves, blessed in the knowledge that the new us president will no longer hurt anyone's feelings.
No, you're right.. Trump would have probably taken Putins side and piled in on Ukraine too.
 
Only your chosen scientist is a bigot sociopath who thinks the US should just pretend they're China and nuke Russia. He's probably joking though. Like when he called for more research into injecting bleach to combat covid, for shits and giggles or something.

The sad thing is , as ridiculous a president Trump was, he was far less harmful for the world than the Biden puppet.
 
OK, the latest news from the Russian propaganda factory is that Ukraine "biolabs" are responsible for COVID and Putin is bombing the cities simply because he's trying the save humanity. A pretty neat way to synthesize several conspiracy theories into one – and this will make the Chinese happy too.
I wondered where she was going with it when she brought WHO into her speech. She kinda lost me though when she was like 'do you know.. do you know who it was? I know who it was... do you know who it was? No seriously who was it? I know who it was... tell me.. tell me.. I know.. do you know?"

Switch off.
 
OK, the latest news from the Russian propaganda factory is that Ukraine "biolabs" are responsible for COVID and Putin is bombing the cities simply because he's trying the save humanity. A pretty neat way to synthesize several conspiracy theories into one – and this will make the Chinese happy too.

Did the war start a few hours after the Winter Olympics ended?
"Yes Putin, you can start the war now - good luck"
 
OK, the latest news from the Russian propaganda factory is that Ukraine "biolabs" are responsible for COVID and Putin is bombing the cities simply because he's trying the save humanity. A pretty neat way to synthesize several conspiracy theories into one – and this will make the Chinese happy too.

The US have confirmed the existence of these biolabs and have publicly said they are trying to stop them falling into Russian hands.

What's the conspiracy ?
 
I wondered where she was going with it when she brought WHO into her speech. She kinda lost me though when she was like 'do you know.. do you know who it was? I know who it was... do you know who it was? No seriously who was it? I know who it was... tell me.. tell me.. I know.. do you know?"

Switch off.

Who?
 
The US have confirmed the existence of these biolabs and have publicly said they are trying to stop them falling into Russian hands.

What's the conspiracy ?

Yes, Ukraine has biolabs like most other countries. That doesn't mean whatever you read about them from "Hunter's laptop" is true.

And the point about Syria is that while all of this is pure conjecture with not a shred of evidence, other than the existence of biolabs and a not-at-all secret connection to US agencies responsible for non-proliferation of chemical weapons around the world, Putin through his ally Assad has actually used chemical weapons on civilians just a couple of years ago, not to mention his extensive chemical poisoning program.
 
No, you're right.. Trump would have probably taken Putins side and piled in on Ukraine too.

You mean he would wait for four years, wait until after an election he might lose, then in the hopes he didn't lose it, then in his second term, having lost or at least diminished his control of the senate and congress, that would be when he would roll into action his master plan to assist putin and start a series of wars around the world? Makes total sense.
 
Yes, Ukraine has biolabs like most other countries. That doesn't mean whatever you read about them from "Hunter's laptop" is true.

And the point about Syria is that while all of this is pure conjecture with not a shred of evidence, other than the existence of biolabs and a not-at-all secret connection to US agencies responsible for non-proliferation of chemical weapons around the world, Putin through his ally Assad has actually used chemical weapons on civilians just a couple of years ago, not to mention his extensive chemical poisoning program.

Well if there is nothing that could be a bioweapon in those labs why would Russia be after them and why would America be protecting them ?

And the US were heavily involved in creating the lab created pathogen that killed millions in the last few years.
 
Well if there is nothing that could be a bioweapon in those labs why would Russia be after them and why would America be protecting them ?

And the US were heavily involved in creating the lab created pathogen that killed millions in the last few years.

That's iron logic, right there. Unfortunately it looks like it's only a matter of time this thread is going to get merged with the Trump threads and the Chinese (Now Ukrainian, apparently) Devil Virus threads.
 
Remember , I've just posted the image not a link so whatever is in the post above is categorically untrue.
 
That's iron logic, right there. Unfortunately it looks like it's only a matter of time this thread is going to get merged with the Trump threads and the Chinese (Now Ukrainian, apparently) Devil Virus threads.

It's a simple question. If you don't have an answer that's fair enough.
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Well if there is nothing that could be a bioweapon in those labs why would Russia be after them and why would America be protecting them ?

And the US were heavily involved in creating the lab created pathogen that killed millions in the last few years.
You seriously believe 'anything' that Russia is peddling right now?
 
You seriously believe 'anything' that Russia is peddling right now?

I don't believe anything either side say. But there's a clear news trail dating back 15 years that shows what the US were doing in Ukraine

This is from 2010

U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this week, announcing that it will be instrumental in researching dangerous pathogens used by bioterrorists.

The level-3 bio-safety lab, which is the first built under the expanded authority of the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q fever as well as other dangerous pathogens.

“The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences,” Lugar said.

Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu.

The Nunn-Lugar Act, which established the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, was established in 1991. Since that time it has provided funding and assistance to help the former Soviet Union dismantle and safeguard large stockpiles of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. The program has also been responsible for destroying chemical weapons in Albania, Lugar said.
 
No, you're right.. Trump would have probably taken Putins side and piled in on Ukraine too.

Think it could actually be the opposite. In that I don't think Putin wouldn't even contemplated invading with Trump in charge. Not claiming Putin thinks Biden is a pushover it's more that nobody can call Trump. He's a maverick, unpredictable and would be much more aggresive in this conflict.

Putin and his inner circle probably knew their would be an avalanche of sanctions but reckoned NATO would stand on the fence. Putin almost decided to back off and had NATO been far more aggressive during the build up of troops on the Ukraine border he might of backed off. Instead of which Biden and the rest just speculated on when the invassion would start.

Once that build up started a "no fly" zone over Ukraine should've been put in place. Putin would've backed off IMO.
 
NATO / US definitely should've been more proactive / aggressive.

At some point they're going to have to call Putin's hand and the longer they leave it, the harder it's going to be... particularly now that Putin is now seemingly all in.
 
NATO / US definitely should've been more proactive / aggressive.

At some point they're going to have to call Putin's hand and the longer they leave it, the harder it's going to be... particularly now that Putin is now seemingly all in.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but at what cost?
On the other hand Putin likely already has his excuses for aggression against him and Russia from NATO. Inc the intelligence and weapons provided from NATO countries
 
I don't necessarily disagree with you but at what cost?
On the other hand Putin likely already has his excuses for aggression against him and Russia from NATO. Inc the intelligence and weapons provided from NATO countries

A crisis point has been building for years with the West vs the Russia/China/Iran axis and unfortunately we've been far too passive for far too long... we may have left it too late.
 
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