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Will we ever do the big signing?

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There's not too many in terms of coups, because we're rarely in a position to compete financially with the elite clubs.

Torres, VVD, Kewell & Thiago spring to mind.
 
I wouldn't class Thiago as a coup because we were pretty much talk of the town at the point he joined.

Alonso and Torres on the other hand I remember feeling we were really lucky to land.
 
Good answer to be fair.

I still remember that week with such fondness. Rodgers getting the chop after the Everton game. The rumours circled that Ancelotti was the man lined up. Then I remember that Sunday evening a decent ITK on twitter said it was Klopp.

I've never followed planes and cars and all that shit when players sign. But I was literally glued to twitter watching for any movement.

And then there he was, the Liverpool manager in his first conference, talking about being the normal one. Wherever he went at the time he seemed to bring smiles and lift spirits.

Surreal time
My mate's memorial "service" was being held in one of the suites in the Kemlyn while Jurgen was being unveiled in the main stand. He hated Rodgers, so he would have been happy.
 
Torres was a wtf moment for me.

He was the next big thing , never saw it coming off. What a signing !
 
I wouldn't class Thiago as a coup because we were pretty much talk of the town at the point he joined.

Alonso and Torres on the other hand I remember feeling we were really lucky to land.
I don't recall Alonso having the same status in Spain as Torres.
Torres was their boy wonder, the next big thing in Spain. Arguably the only big signing we've made in the last 20 years.
You could say Van Dijk but it just wasn't the same imo.
 
Torres for obvious reasons.
Alonso because watching La ligue highlights season before scoring that anazing goal from half way line and just seemed to have everything as a CM and only 22 back then.
Kewell because he had all the best clubs after him here and abroad as a free signing but choose us over a big unveiling at the time over a special reveal on Aus TV IIRC.
Salah and Alisson were big signings to me personally especially as a statement of intent for a world record for a keeper.
Naby at the time, seemed to have it all and signing a year earlier while Coutinho looked certain to go that summer.
 
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I don't recall Alonso having the same status in Spain as Torres.
Torres was their boy wonder, the next big thing in Spain. Arguably the only big signing we've made in the last 20 years.
You could say Van Dijk but it just wasn't the same imo.

I think he was like 23 when he joined us and had been subject to speculation every year (to Utd a lot if I remember) with no big club really going all out to sign him to the best of my knowledge. One of the biggest question marks hanging over him was his finishing ability - he never proved himself a clinical goalscorer.

By the time we got Torres he'd become utterly fed up with the situation at A.Madrid and was deseprate to leave - there was an element of us taking a chance on him as well as him on us.

Alonso had a breakout season at Real Sociedad and very nearly led them to the title. He was rately really highly in Spain and I think Real Madrid wanted him (although perhaps he wasn't enough of a Galactico for them to make a concerted push) so we ended up getting him instead.
 
I wouldn't class Thiago as a coup because we were pretty much talk of the town at the point he joined.

Alonso and Torres on the other hand I remember feeling we were really lucky to land.

I do think there were fairly unique circumstances when we sign players of the reputation of Alonso, Torres, Mascherano.

Torres - as you pointed out had reached the end of his stay at Madrid. He was loyal enough to not demand transfer to Real Madrid. Barcelona didn't need a striker like him.

Alonso - Madrid didn't pursue him aggressively. Also, I think Real Sociedad preferred selling him to us rather than directly selling him to R. Madrid due to his Basque roots. He also did not fit the mould at Barcelona or Barca really did not need one more passing midfielder.

Also for both Torres and Alonso, working with Rafa was a big pull. He was among the hottest tickets in town, Spanish etc.

Mascherano - had gone through a fairly bizarre career experience at West Ham under Pardew. If Everton had paid 17 million, he would have joined them.

We are still a draw as long as we have the right manager. Even then I don't think we will ever do a big signing where we compete in the open market for player with Chelsea, United, Madrid, Barcelona etc. and win the battle.

Personally don't care about that also. Mane, Salah, Firmino, Gini, Fabinho etc weren't exactly "big" signings. Better them than some of the other alternatives who rejected us like Gotze, Brandt, Dahoud who had bigger reputations or at least wonder talent reputations.
 
Wasn't Torres considered a bit of a deeper striker and more creative in his early years? His goals record steadily increased if I remember rightly, but he was never that prolific (my memory might be failing me). When he scored that goal against Chelsea that's when he totally confirmed he was the real deal.
 
I would rather 'the right' signing than a big signing. Edwards has been killing it lately so as long as he keeps on doing what he's been doing I don't think the big signing matters as much as it used to.
 
I thought, and still think, Kai Havertz was a big miss by Edwards

There is no way he would have rejected us if we had put in an acceptable bid, and would have settled the Firmino position for a long time. It was a huge fuck up.
 
I thought, and still think, Kai Havertz was a big miss by Edwards

There is no way he would have rejected us if we had put in an acceptable bid, and would have settled the Firmino position for a long time. It was a huge fuck up.

I don't think you can blame that on Edwards. One of the reasons we signed Jota is that they agreed to a very favorable transfer fee spread with a very low upfront cost. We did not have money to put in an acceptable bid.
 
I thought, and still think, Kai Havertz was a big miss by Edwards

There is no way he would have rejected us if we had put in an acceptable bid, and would have settled the Firmino position for a long time. It was a huge fuck up.

Hyena has hurts for not having Havertz?
 
I think he was like 23 when he joined us and had been subject to speculation every year (to Utd a lot if I remember) with no big club really going all out to sign him to the best of my knowledge. One of the biggest question marks hanging over him was his finishing ability - he never proved himself a clinical goalscorer.

By the time we got Torres he'd become utterly fed up with the situation at A.Madrid and was deseprate to leave - there was an element of us taking a chance on him as well as him on us.

Alonso had a breakout season at Real Sociedad and very nearly led them to the title. He was rately really highly in Spain and I think Real Madrid wanted him (although perhaps he wasn't enough of a Galactico for them to make a concerted push) so we ended up getting him instead.


For me as a 17 year old (I think - but I was definitely at sixth form) I remember the Torres signing being HUGE talk. Also - how good was it when the armband unpeeled and had YNWA on it. Such a fun build up to that signing.
 
On the subject of Mbappe - surely about 30m has come off his price now and I wonder how the French crowds will welcome him back after his tournament performance.
 
On the subject of Mbappe - surely about 30m has come off his price now and I wonder how the French crowds will welcome him back after his tournament performance.

He's been pretty average this tournament, but then I don't really think there have been any standout players over the course of the games so far. That said, if I were him I'd be considering going to play for a manager and a set of coaches who will actually improve me. I'm not sure he's going to get that at PSG, because they don't keep managers for all that long and the quality of opposition he plays against on a regular basis is average. He could go to Real Madrid but Ancelotti's schtick seems to be just letting players get on with things.

I appreciate we won't pay him what he would get elsewhere but someone like Klopp is exactly what he needs right now; otherwise he's risking a career where he's treated like a superstar without actually ever becoming one.
 
He has looked tired, as have a lot of other players as well. Its been a long and tough season.
If he gets a lot of shite for the penalty miss then maybe that will see him move on from PSG.
Still think he ends up in Real Madrid or something.
 
I remember running to Mrs Woland so happy that we'd signed Torres. Can't remember exactly what variables made me the most excited I'd ever been that we'd signed a player but it was just boss. I didn't know much about Alonso etc before they arrived.
 
On the subject of Mbappe - surely about 30m has come off his price now and I wonder how the French crowds will welcome him back after his tournament performance.

Think would be unfair to blame a teenager. He’s already won the WC so bad tournament ar that age is not unexpected.
He needs a move, don’t think PSG long term is one to keep his focus and help him grow.
 
The pressure got the better of him, it happened to so many star players before him. Remember Zidane or Beckham both lashing out after being ribbed by an opposition player.
. As to him moving, you're looking at €30m in basic wages a year, not many clubs could afford those unless its linked to revenue from merch
 
Think would be unfair to blame a teenager. He’s already won the WC so bad tournament ar that age is not unexpected.
He needs a move, don’t think PSG long term is one to keep his focus and help him grow.

He's 22, but I get the point.
 
He knows there's a lot of responsability on his shoulders to perform whenever he plays, he's given himself the name of being France's main man because of his freakish attributes & what he showed at the last World Cup but at the end of the day the kids only human and it will always be about the team and working together as a team.

France played like individuals too often this tournament, saw it in every game.
 
The real question is will people be disappointed if we sign Mbappe only to realise he’s not going to score 40 goals a season and will have his share of games like tonight where nothing work. Great player but he’s not Messi or Ronaldo as so many believe him to be.
 
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