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Why Liverpool are ready to live without this man...

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(From thisisfutbol)

Steven Gerrard missed a considerable portion of last season after struggling with a long term groin injury. Over the early summer he had a groin operation to rectify the problem, but unfortunately he has now suffered complications and could be out for the first few months of the season.

A few years back this would have signalled alarm bells for Liverpool. The Liverpool side in previous years was defined by many as a two man team, heavily reliant upon Gerrard or Fernando Torres. Gerrard was absolutely vital to the Liverpool side, and his absence would have had many a Liverpool fan worried, but has all that changed?

Gerrard missed considerable portions of last season-only featuring 21 times-and during his absence Liverpool played outstandingly well. This could just be due to the revolution under Kenny Dalglish and Steve Clarke that took place, rather then Gerrard’s absence. However, the side did play better as a team when he wasn’t playing, with players like Lucas Leiva, Raul Meireles, Maxi Rodriguez and Jay Spearing really stepping up to the plate and performing to their potential in Gerrard’s absence.

With Stevie in the side, it seems as if the players around him try too hard, and rather than focus on their own games, focus too much on the captain’s. Gerrard is also at times guilty-probably because he has had to do it so many times in the past-of trying to do everything himself, demanding the ball, and trying to go at it alone, which obviously would have a negative effect on his team-mates and their own confidence.

With more new recruits coming in over the summer, Liverpool are certainly not lacking in the centre of the park for replacements, and they will be queuing up to fit into Liverpool’s starting 11 in Gerrard’s absence. Meireles did the job exceptionally well last year, and we saw the best of the dynamic midfielder in a free roaming role. Charlie Adam, could also slot right in there, with his deft passing and creativity.

Gerrard’s absence gives others the chance to impress, and this competition for places at the start of the season can only be a good thing for the side, as each could push each other onto greater things. If Liverpool do start the season well, it then brings up the question of where Gerrard fits when he returns to fitness?

I am not disputing Gerrard’s quality or his importance to Liverpool over the years, he has produced moments of sheer brilliance that have salvaged the club and propelled them to achieve great things on so many occasions - FA Cup, and Champions League titles - and nobody has done more in the past to save distinctly average Liverpool teams from the brink of defeat. On his day Gerrard is unrivalled, a man single handedly capable of winning a game, the heart and soul of the club, but he isn’t getting any younger and performances of that outstanding quality will now become rarer. It seems as if his role needs to evolve somewhat as a part of Dalglish’s new side. Suffering with fitness and lacking the dynamism of old, perhaps his role needs to change to become more of a team player rather than a one-man-battering-ram. There are now better players around him-which is maybe what Gerrard was lacking all along-, players that he should trust and with less pressure on him to do everything, he can concentrate on his own strengths, and we could see the best of Gerrard again.

Liverpool showed last season that they are arguably a better team without Gerrard in the side, but they can also be a better team with him in it as well, they just need to adapt his role slightly, so that the other players and Gerrard himself can shine together. A fit Steven Gerrard should always be the first name on the team-sheet, but Liverpool certainly shouldn’t fear his absence any more, as once may have been the case.
 
Intelligent summary which IMO makes a number of good points.

Hope the writer isn't correct about Stevie missing "months" of the season though.
 
I thought it was gonna delve too much into the "Liverpool are a better side without him" argument, but it rescued itself from the brink. All in all though it covers all the angles and makes some good points.
 
I think it's a bollocks article.
Gerrard is a team player. If he finds someone in a better position than him he'll always try to pick them out (Owen, Torres being the prime beneficiaries).

He's still our best player and it's incredibly worrying that he might be out for ages.
 
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=46313.msg1373729#msg1373729 date=1312292547]
I think it's a bollocks article.
Gerrard is a team player. If he finds someone in a better position than him he'll always try to pick them out (Owen, Torres being the prime beneficiaries).

He's still our best player and it's incredibly worrying that he might be out for ages.
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It says as much. Did you read it?
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46313.msg1373735#msg1373735 date=1312292900]
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=46313.msg1373729#msg1373729 date=1312292547]
I think it's a bollocks article.
Gerrard is a team player. If he finds someone in a better position than him he'll always try to pick them out (Owen, Torres being the prime beneficiaries).

He's still our best player and it's incredibly worrying that he might be out for ages.
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It says as much. Did you read it?
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It's an article filled with contradictions. Makes an outlandish point, then quickly tries to cover its arse by making sure a counter argument's there.
It's a bollocks article. If others feel that that equates to it being 'balanced', then so be it.
Yeah, we play better without Gerrard, but then again we could play even better with Gerrard. No shit Sherlock.
 
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=46313.msg1373758#msg1373758 date=1312296297]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46313.msg1373735#msg1373735 date=1312292900]
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=46313.msg1373729#msg1373729 date=1312292547]
I think it's a bollocks article.
Gerrard is a team player. If he finds someone in a better position than him he'll always try to pick them out (Owen, Torres being the prime beneficiaries).

He's still our best player and it's incredibly worrying that he might be out for ages.
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It says as much. Did you read it?
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It's an article filled with contradictions. Makes an outlandish point, then quickly tries to cover its arse by making sure a counter argument's there.
It's a bollocks article. If others feel that that equates to it being 'balanced', then so be it.
Yeah, we play better without Gerrard, but then again we could play even better with Gerrard. No shit Sherlock.
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..ergo, we're better prepared for it than we were a few years back. It's hardly groundbreaking but it's fair enough and no one else has really touched on it in the media.
 
like it or not, we're going to have to start looking beyond gerrard. He isn't getting any younger and you can't or shouldn't rely on injury prone players. what would be good is if gerrard could adapt his game so it is less about his dynamism and more about his ability to pick a pass, john barnes did exactly that when injuries set in.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46313.msg1373761#msg1373761 date=1312297242]
like it or not, we're going to have to start looking beyond gerrard. He isn't getting any younger and you can't or shouldn't rely on injury prone players. what would be good is if gerrard could adapt his game so it is less about his dynamism and more about his ability to pick a pass, john barnes did exactly that when injuries set in.
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*expecting modo to use this as evidence that Barnes was the best Liverpool player of alllllllll time*.
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46313.msg1373761#msg1373761 date=1312297242]
like it or not, we're going to have to start looking beyond gerrard. He isn't getting any younger and you can't or shouldn't rely on injury prone players. what would be good is if gerrard could adapt his game so it is less about his dynamism and more about his ability to pick a pass, john barnes did exactly that when injuries set in.
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*expecting modo to use this as evidence that Barnes was the best Liverpool player of alllllllll time*.
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Ctrl x, Ctrl V

Oooh, I've got you Spider. You can pretend to be a changed man on this forum but I sense the love for Digger from miles away. Deep down inside you know who the better of the two is. Keep saying Gerrard. *wink*
 
I love both players but if I were pushed I would have gerrard over digger and to really fan the flames, if I were really pushed I'd have gerrard over kenny. But if it makes you happy, for pure unadulterated skill I think barnes is the the best ever for Liverpool.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46313.msg1373820#msg1373820 date=1312306328]
I love both players but if I were pushed I would have gerrard over digger and to really fan the flames, if I were really pushed I'd have gerrard over kenny. But if it makes you happy, for pure unadulterated skill I think barnes is the the best ever for Liverpool.
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That I agree with.
 
Re: Why Liverpool are ready to live without this man...

Clearly you never saw smicer play
 
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